Tempo track Volume track????

Tempo track Volume track????

Postby intimaterush » Tue Feb 05, 2013 2:49 pm

Hey,

Couple of questions-
Guys is there a way to vary the tempo throughout the songs?
I also need to fade my strings in and out. Sorry can't remember the proper name for this , but I'm sure you get the idea.
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Re: Tempo track Volume track????

Postby Frieder » Tue Feb 05, 2013 3:43 pm

intimaterush wrote:Hey,

Couple of questions-
Guys is there a way to vary the tempo throughout the songs?
I also need to fade my strings in and out. Sorry can't remember the proper name for this , but I'm sure you get the idea.


Hello,

varying the tempo is not possible at the moment.

Regarding the strings: Cubasis does not have volume automation at the moment, so I would advise you to use the handles of the events. To create a fade-in move the top-left handle of the event, to create a fade-out move the top-right handle. Another possibility would be, if your strings are audio, to create a fade using the sample editor.

If you have any further questions, let me know.

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Re: Tempo track Volume track????

Postby mvmn » Tue Apr 16, 2013 12:24 am

Frieder wrote:Hello,

varying the tempo is not possible at the moment.

Good day Frieder,

Do you have any information regarding the tempo change feature plans?

This feature is crucial, lack of it is a complete show stopper. It's tolerable for other $15 priced "studios" out there, but completely unacceptable for $50 product. For comparison, Desktop version of GarageBand (the Mac version, not iOS) has the tempo track, and it's priced below $50.

Any information on this subject is highly appreciated.

Thank you.
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Re: Tempo track Volume track????

Postby Frieder » Tue Apr 16, 2013 10:04 am

mvmn wrote:
Frieder wrote:Hello,

varying the tempo is not possible at the moment.

Good day Frieder,

Do you have any information regarding the tempo change feature plans?

This feature is crucial, lack of it is a complete show stopper. It's tolerable for other $15 priced "studios" out there, but completely unacceptable for $50 product. For comparison, Desktop version of GarageBand (the Mac version, not iOS) has the tempo track, and it's priced below $50.

Any information on this subject is highly appreciated.

Thank you.


Hello,

thanks for your post. Sorry, the tempo track for Cubasis is not planned in the very near future.

However, it would be very interesting if you could give us your use cases for the tempo track on the iPad. If we have some important use cases for the tempo track we could change the planning in this respect.

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Re: Tempo track Volume track????

Postby PhilW » Tue Apr 16, 2013 7:35 pm

I believe a tempo track should be a high priority. A classic example of use would be a rallentando (slowing down) at the end of a track. I also write pieces which change tempo and time signature in different sections, quite common in prog rock type pieces. Please move this up your list!
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Re: Tempo track Volume track????

Postby mvmn » Tue Apr 16, 2013 10:19 pm

Frieder wrote:Hello,

thanks for your post. Sorry, the tempo track for Cubasis is not planned in the very near future.

However, it would be very interesting if you could give us your use cases for the tempo track on the iPad. If we have some important use cases for the tempo track we could change the planning in this respect.

Kind regards,
Frieder

Hello Frieder,

Sorry to hear that. But well, the decision is up to you.

Regarding the use cases, I believe they're the same as on Desktop. For example, recording a demo/sketch of the track to programmed drums - no longer possible in case there's a tempo change within the track (imagine you're making a cover of, say, Franz Ferdinand "Take Me Out", or Daughter Darling "Things Untold").
Even worse when composing with iPad - one is basically not allowed to compose any music with variable tempo.

Maybe for dance floor oriented music this isn't a frequent issue, and the intended targeting is for that kind of music, thus it doesn't seem like a big issue to you. But I believe even in dance music tempo changes are used sometimes for effects (like track build-up by accelerating tempo at the beginning, slowdown at the end etc). And that kind of targeting seems just too narrow for no particular reason IMO.

Hope this explains it. Regards.
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Re: Tempo track Volume track????

Postby Frieder » Tue Apr 16, 2013 10:38 pm

mvmn wrote:
Frieder wrote:Hello,

thanks for your post. Sorry, the tempo track for Cubasis is not planned in the very near future.

However, it would be very interesting if you could give us your use cases for the tempo track on the iPad. If we have some important use cases for the tempo track we could change the planning in this respect.

Kind regards,
Frieder

Hello Frieder,

Sorry to hear that. But well, the decision is up to you.

Regarding the use cases, I believe they're the same as on Desktop. For example, recording a demo/sketch of the track to programmed drums - no longer possible in case there's a tempo change within the track (imagine you're making a cover of, say, Franz Ferdinand "Take Me Out", or Daughter Darling "Things Untold").
Even worse when composing with iPad - one is basically not allowed to compose any music with variable tempo.

Maybe for dance floor oriented music this isn't a frequent issue, and the intended targeting is for that kind of music, thus it doesn't seem like a big issue to you. But I believe even in dance music tempo changes are used sometimes for effects (like track build-up by accelerating tempo at the beginning, slowdown at the end etc). And that kind of targeting seems just too narrow for no particular reason IMO.

Hope this explains it. Regards.


Hello,

thanks a lot for you explanations. I can only ask for your understanding of the fact that we have a huge amount of feature requests on our list (only the first 2 pages of this forum would certainly keep us busy for a full year). This and the limited resources have the consequence that we have to decide on an order in which we address them. Thus, we can only ask for patience.

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