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Re: Sound On Sound says it all: Too Dark

I am by no means a mixing dude or anywhere near being a recording engineer, so these lines are simply an observation.

So it seems a few of things irritate many with the new mixer, two of them are darkness and disorientation. I've seen this discussed in several places now. So I went and searched for pictures real life mixers, and strangely enough there are a large number of dark faced mixers, and not at all bad to look at, I included a few in this post. I also saw many that "pleased" me more than others and some that directly displeased me. I think what pleasing translates to is an immediate understanding of what I saw. What JMCecil talked about above.

So in looking at them all, a few light ones too, but I concentrated on dark ones (for obvious reasons) and it appears to me that one thing is strikingly missing or rather I think it was supposed to be there by clever illusion (more in the bottom part of the mixer, with the sliders). I am talking about a very distinct separation of channels. The ones of most disinterest to me had very weak "lines" of separation between channels, where they were sort of disorienting, and the ones with lines (and I like many dislike a lot of lines in a UI, but) they immediately "registered".

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Instinctively I also went over to PT11 to take a look at its mixer ( click on "Images" ) and I have to say it is by no means any better, at least not to my eyes. Way too busy. However, again, I am not mixing a whole lot, so these are just my personal opinions.
by Elektrobolt
Wed Oct 30, 2013 5:32 pm
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Re: Sound On Sound says it all: Too Dark

I'm not 100% sure the theme is too dark. I don't like it, but I won't blame the darkness. It's all about contrast and positioning and structure so that you can find what you are looking for. I find the new mixer to be a morass of blobs of indistinct washes of color. I can't tell which channel goes with which fader. I can't tell which row goes with which column. I really just can't find anything without actively trying to look for it. Even with the faders grouped, I can't easily delineate one channels setting from the next. I have no such problem in C6.5 or prior. I find trying to use the mixer extremely fatiguing and cumbersome. That doesn't even take into account the clickfest, lack of positional/zoom memory, losing plugins behind the mixer, can't use hotkeys unless you click on the mixer, rack configs not working, workspaces not working, linking only partially working for solo/mute/record ... etc ... etc ... etc ... and that's after a year of patches ... wooohooo
by JMCecil
Wed Oct 30, 2013 1:51 am
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Re: Record-enabled tracks do not render?!

The problem is not that the track is record enabled, but the auto-monitoring setting. Which do you have set? Tape Machine Style?
by SteveInChicago
Fri Oct 25, 2013 4:48 pm
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Re: [Poll] Fix the insert handling in the new mixer console?

By the way, the hover and hidden buttons will bite the borgz in the backside when they try to do touch interfaces.
by JMCecil
Wed Nov 06, 2013 3:18 pm
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Re: This will change..nothing

If it doesn't change anything for you, why do you care what it costs? If the addition of MIDI, multitrack and lossless audio will make a difference to how you interact with artists, then the cost is a pittance surely?
by JMCecil
Thu Nov 14, 2013 4:14 pm
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Re: this'll change everything 14 nov

I agree that some are missing the point. It is not about the quality of the sound. It is about replacing an IDEA (sketched out in MIDI) with an actual recording by an artist FROM A REMOTE LOCATION.
That performer does not even need to own Cubase (I think). All they need (I think) is the free "performer" application. They hear your basic song and then add a living breathing performance.
I think the latency over the internet is only a concern if you were trying to record from two different locations at once. If you are only recording at one location, you could be 30 seconds late at the mixing desk because all you are doing is recording the performance and replacing your MIDI track with it. So you turn your MIDI idea into a song with real instrument recordings one performer at a time from multiple locations. Not unlike simply sending them your project and letting them replace the MIDI and then send it back, but they don't need Cubase at all.

Anyway, I do think it is a good idea for collaborations. If all the collaborating performers use Cubase then it doesn't do too much other than save the hassle of sending the projects back and forth. Probably not something I would use, personally.

Lastly, I will agree that the video it quite funny. The tones of their voices and interaction reminds me of two ladies on a PBS talk show about flowers or pastries. Remember the NPR Delicious Dish skits on SNL with Ana Gasteyer and Molly Shannon? It does a fair job of describing what VST Connect is designed to do, however.
by jaslan
Fri Nov 15, 2013 2:39 am
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[FR]Tap to set to unity

On the CH and FD it would be nice to have a tap mode that reset the faders to unity.
by JMCecil
Sun Dec 08, 2013 5:00 pm
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Metronome click patterns/Programmable click track

Implement a feature where we can create patterns in the Cubase metronome, and save them as presets, and where we can set the value of the beat , and have that define the grid.

Yes, I know you are thinking, why not create a click track? well, for one thing, having this in the Cubase click would permit
- including the click in a mix-down
- controlling its volume from the control room
- the use of (non x/4) audio clicks within the metronome dialog
- Automating the click
and it would be faster to create and faster to change.

11/16: 1 2 1 2 1 2 3 1 2 1 2
7/8: 1 2 3 4 1 2 3

I want to add (just in case) that the pattern should not be limited to a low number of cells, such as is the case with the Score Time Signature dialog.
by SteveInChicago
Mon Mar 04, 2013 10:52 pm
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Re: Thank You Steinberg for making me lose business....

BriHar wrote:Yah, I'll contact support. ;)

It appears you can download the content: ... 101213.iso
by SteveInChicago
Tue Mar 04, 2014 4:35 pm
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listen botton for your de-esser

A listen botton for you de-esser so you can hear what your taking away.
by marcus82
Thu Apr 03, 2014 7:56 pm
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Re: UR44 instrument input

thanks, I was hoping ur44 have proper HiZ input (1Mohm), but its not specified officially in manual...I will try to contact support for answer. 500Ohm is not proper HiZ.

The HiZ is 1Mohm. The original getting started manual contained incorrect information and an errata document quoted the correct values.
Check out the following post where I have listed the full details of the UR44 inputs/outputs/sample rates etc


Stevo.. :D
by stevo1080
Sat Apr 19, 2014 10:03 am
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Re: Clening up a section of a recording.

Take a look at spectral editing; by the sound of what you describe it might work well.
by Arjan P
Mon May 26, 2014 5:03 pm
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Re: How to make WAV (Microsoft) signed 16 bit PCM

ignored or error?
You could try to process it via the Master Section directly to see maybe more details.
by PG
Tue Oct 07, 2014 10:28 am
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Re: Hidden Cubase 8 features!

I find it rather remiss that there is no "whats New" document or Version History documentation.

Yes we can read about the new features bells and whistles on the product page enticing one to 'buy' the newest version, but there is nothing detailing changes and more importantly new options and preferences of interest to existing users.

Instead we are left discovering these for ourselves - hence this very thread. Who knows if some of these hidden ( undocumented ) "features" are not in fact unintended, benign software bugs which could just as easily disappear in the next update.

This seemed to stop a few versions ago, I remember every time there use to be a gigantic list, even listing new keyboard shortcuts etc... this is needed again!

Steinberg: you are doing yourself a disservice by not listing every tiny little change that you have introduced... guaranteed 1 of those tiny changes is a game changer for someone.
by Xtigma
Wed Dec 17, 2014 8:21 pm
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Re: How to draw smooth automation in midi cc lanes without s

Hi, i think the function you're looking for is in the Automation Panel.

Its Project > Automation Panel or F6 - shortcut.

There is a little gear icon on the bottom left of the window and clicking it will reveal the settings. The Reduction Level is there.

hope this helps....
by keyzs
Tue Feb 10, 2015 9:56 am
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Re: UR28M surround set up walkthrough

Sorry for taking so long to reply,
But I want to take this opportunity to thank you BriHar for such a brilliant walk through, simple and elegantly explained! I want to thank you for your patience and the time you've taken out to help me and others like me, now and in the futur. Kudos ! Cheers !
by dreamweaver1873
Tue Feb 17, 2015 6:08 pm
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Re: Marker ID

BriHar wrote:Yes you're right, I missed that, but when you do this renaming, can you still use the Keypad controls (or marker controls on the transport) to navigate to them as before?

Yes. The marker number is still associated with the marker, it just also has a name too.
by raino
Sun Mar 08, 2015 9:03 pm
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Re: Marker ID

You might also have a look at the arranger track.
Even if you have no intention of creating different arrangements, it might be useful for what you're doing.
That's what I used to use, before I found out that markers can have names and colours.

To colour markers:

You can't replace the Marker IDs with text, you can only substitute numbers.
To name markers:

1. Select the marker.

2. Click and edit the marker ID to the required text, under the Name title, in the info line.
by Patanjali
Thu Mar 05, 2015 4:51 pm
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Re: 8.0.10 Important Heads-up

There's nothing on the 8.0.10 download pages - not that I can find anyway.
Scroll down on the download page a bit and you'll see Documentation Zip files in various languages. As previously noted by KMK however, only the english has as of yet been updated.

I find it a pity they no longer put a revision number or date on the credits page. That's where one usually looks first.

You can now find this information in the PDF file properties keywords in your PDF viewer now.
In Foxit it's for instance File -> Properties -> Description -> Keywords
by Ed Doll
Wed Mar 18, 2015 10:51 am
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Re: Help me understand setting up GAIN STAGING in Cubase 8

When using 32bit floating files as the default Cubase internal format , which are virtually impossible to clip, gain-staging isn't as critical, except for where the DAW interfaces to fixed integer sources and targets, which usually means with:
a) Inputs to the ADCs of your audio hardware, usually 24bit integer.
b) Outputs to the DACs of your audio hardware, usually 24bit integer.
c) Rendering to fixed bit-depth audio formats, like for 16bit WAV files.
d) Inputs to some level-dependent FX like compressors, maximisers and ditherers.
e) Output from ditherers and maximisers, which should not be changed at all.
f) Outputs feeding broadcast equipment.

For these, gain levels need to be optimised to use the most of the bandwidth without clipping. At any other stage, gain staging helps the meters give a good idea of what the signal is doing at that point, because meters slamming into max scale or hardly registering do not help you to make finer level adjustments when required, or track problems.

Note that all these calibration 'standards' are rules-of-thumb generic setups, and do NOT guarantee that any particular signal will not go full scale. They just give some predictability, but which one you use will depend upon whether its required (as for broadcast), or what suits the genre(s) you do best.

However, if using fixed integer internal formats , gain staging is CRITICAL to avoiding clipping, as every audio track is a potential overload point when it is being recorded.

Note that Cubase uses 32bit floating internally, so it is only at points where audio files are created (recording or in-place rendering) that levels are critical.

When doing pre-recording level checks, note that for acoustic sources, like vocals or instruments, the levels encountered once the artists get into the performance while recording can be substantially above those from the artists in the more subdued level-check phase. Make sure you get them to do the level checks with a bit more gusto.
by Patanjali
Tue Mar 24, 2015 11:16 am
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Re: Missing Zoom Presets

ok, you've suffered enough, felt like you left a cliff hanger. Mystery of the missing zoom presets! looks like a job for Kojak
and yes it is the same on mine - no presets. maybe.....a little lesson from steinberg - make your own presets damn it, (lets see if the moaners figure this one out)!!!

seriously though, they were useful, but i think my work flow has taken another route since C8 so didn't notice much
by tex
Wed Apr 08, 2015 12:02 am
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