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Re: 7.5.20 Impressions...

Regarding the new mixer bashers. I am 100% in support this new mixer in C7. Working great for me.
I think the designers have done a super job as well!
Well done guys!
This is not about "bashing", "thinking" or "liking".
It is out of question, that the designers have done a bad job.
The new Mixer is simply not good !

- Taking more space for the same information.
- Hidden information all over the place.
- Completely missing information, that was there before and is still needed.
- Not 'point and click', anymore ! Instead You need a 'master' in 'mouse gestures'.
E.g.: to see a send level for several adjacent tracks,
you need to make certain mouse gestures and then wait ...
If nothing happens, try again ...
- Bad contrast and readability.
- Everything has the same shape / looks the same.
( unintuitive, steeper learning curve, error prone )
- Gain changes up to +/-2db are not visible.
- Everything can be sized, but settings can not be stored/recalled, globally
- there's more ...

Nothing above, is about taste.
It just shows, that the current Mixer is not "well done".
It brings Cubase' work s low to new heights !
8-)

But yes, it still can be used to mix a song ...

On Toppic :
The Control Room Mixer can show more info, now. Good. It now remembers it's visual settings. Good
Still not as good as it was before, though.
Sadly nothing more, for me ...
Looks like they want me to pay the 'major fee', again.
:|

Jan
by DaDa
Thu Apr 10, 2014 4:12 am
 
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Re: 7.5.20 Impressions...

Always on top still dont work for plugins in second monitor.
It works. I have been stretching Cubase over all 4 monitors since the days of CubaseSX with an expensive video card. Oh well ...
Yep, it works.
It works great, if You have projects with 2 or 3 tracks.
Or if You use 50" 4k TVs as displays.
And if you prefer 'less information' and 'more empty space'.
( Then the current Info Line and the new mixer is for you, too )

For normal daily work this workaround is worse than 'quadruple' clicking
or moving the plugin GUIs to the main screen.

Jan
by DaDa
Thu Apr 10, 2014 3:30 am
 
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Re: 7.5.20 Impressions...


I have been stretching Cubase over all 4 monitors since the days of CubaseSX with an expensive video card. It works great, if You have projects with 2 or 3 tracks.
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For normal daily work this workaround is worse than 'quadruple' clicking
or moving the plugin GUIs to the main screen.
I'm not sure I understand. Why is stretching the Cubase window, or what I call the "shell" over 4 monitors okay with projects with 2 or 3 tracks, but not 100 tracks?
It's about the added empty space ( the project page caption, scroll bars )
and less information ( at least one additional track is visible, with the project window maximized ).

I need to see as many tracks as possible. With a clear view of the waveform.
( And I already have too much reflective space in front of me,
so bigger displays are no solution ... )

Anyway, Your workaround may help some people and Steinberg is recoding the window management
as we speak. So in a few years, plugin AOT on 2nd screen will work as expected.
8-)

Jan
by DaDa
Thu Apr 10, 2014 2:23 pm
 
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Re: 7.5.20 Impressions...

... and to all those, liking the current mixer and dissing the Reaper designs:

Again, it's NOT about taste.
Designs copying real mixers, have the clear advatage,
that those mixers have been designed for fast and easy daily work.
Knobs/switches have different size, shape and color.
MAkes it way easier for the brain to navigate.
All info is always visible. This may be a problem for a newbie
but clearly speeds up the workflow, if you use Cubase for daily work.

Cubase pre 7.x.x mixer designers knew about all that.
Now they decided to go for touchscreen and thus we have the current mess ...

Not good.


Jan
by DaDa
Mon Apr 21, 2014 9:23 pm
 
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Re: 7.5.20 Impressions...

lukasbrooklyn wrote:...wish i got a cent for every 'load preset' dialog that loaded when i wanted to bring up a plugin's gui instead.

Me too !!
No clear visible area/switch to open the GUI.
And worse :
No indication, that the GUI is open ( which is an issue, if You work on numerous VCC plugs, etc )!
:|

Jan
by DaDa
Mon Apr 21, 2014 9:13 pm
 
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