So 7.5 is here (almost)

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Re: So 7.5 is here (almost)

Postby forthwith » Sun Dec 01, 2013 10:12 am

rustman wrote:I don't have to buy it, so it's not a huge deal really. I just feel warmer and fuzzier if I can be up to date for a year or so before I have to start stressing over whether to upgrade. Updates are great. Bring them on to fix bugs. There will always be bugs. Period. It's the nature of programming for such a wide array of devices and software environments.


Absolutely true, but remember if you do purchase the .5 upgrade, you will be first to access any bug fixes as a result.

mrjixies wrote:The fact is we all ready BOUGHT cubase 7! And I dont mind paying for an upgrade with new features. HOWEVER I do mind paying for mayor FLAWS being fixed in a PAID UPDATE! If these mayor flaws are being fixed in 7.0.7 you wont hear another word from me.


Bug fixes will be present in both the .5 and .07 upgrade and update respectively, and in typical SB fashion a further bug/compatibility fix will follow post the next whole numbered version.

(if anyone cares to challenge this notion feel free ;)
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Re: So 7.5 is here (almost)

Postby Marsman » Sun Dec 01, 2013 10:45 am

jaslan wrote:All of this socialist banter about greed and paid .5 versions is tiring.

The name of the version is semantics. If they called it Cubase 8 what argument would be used then?

The "greed" of someone wanting to be paid more for their product is no worse than the "greed" of someone else who wants to pay less for that product.



quoted for truth!

7.5 obviously has tons of new features, calling it a "patch" would be a big understatement
Steinberg is a business and they need revenue for major feature additions

Also 49 bucks? I smell a bargain here

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The fact is we all ready BOUGHT cubase 7! And I dont mind paying for an upgrade with new features. HOWEVER I do mind paying for mayor FLAWS being fixed in a PAID UPDATE! If these mayor flaws are being fixed in 7.0.7 you wont hear another word from me.


then next time vote with your wallet and don´t buy the x.0 versions.

I happened to jump in to the last new versions of Nuendo at the x.5 release.
Still on Nuendo 5.5, formerly I was on 4, and I will upgrade when Nuendo 6.5 is out
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Re: So 7.5 is here (almost)

Postby johnstaf » Sun Dec 01, 2013 11:50 am

The workflow enhancements are worthy of a full version upgrade for me, for which 50 euro is no big deal.
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Re: So 7.5 is here (almost)

Postby Freddie H » Sun Dec 01, 2013 11:50 am

For me, its no brainer to update for €49.99. Just this new "Instrument Track 2.0" in Cubase 7.5 feature is easily worth the upgrade cost. Then add all the rest they have added...what can I say, AWESOME job Steinberg!!! :D

Great work Steinberg!! :D

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Re: So 7.5 is here (almost)

Postby G-string » Sun Dec 01, 2013 11:53 am

the instrument panel looks interesting but I would love to see what it looks like with a third party synth loaded instead of one of the halion family
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Re: So 7.5 is here (almost)

Postby Freddie H » Sun Dec 01, 2013 11:56 am

G-string wrote:the instrument panel looks interesting but I would love to see what it looks like with a third party synth loaded instead of one of the halion family


Yes agree! ;)
That's why I'm concern about this.. will it work?
viewtopic.php?f=181&t=51068

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Re: So 7.5 is here (almost)

Postby G-string » Sun Dec 01, 2013 12:06 pm

i would of thought so, Steinberg haven't said they are dropping support for it , (after all they are not apple or avid) ;-)
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Re: So 7.5 is here (almost)

Postby Rudi007 » Sun Dec 01, 2013 12:25 pm

I believe the only concern all the users share is the fact that SB would rather spend time getting new customers than supporting current ones. I would gladly pay for new features, if stuff i already paid for was fixed. So yes i would by 7.5 but can SB promise us a stable version this time around..
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Re: So 7.5 is here (almost)

Postby edomago » Sun Dec 01, 2013 12:29 pm

Fabio Bartolini wrote:
edomago wrote:Bu please, don' t treat us like dumb sheeps.


Uh? Did I?

I just wanted to let you know the status of the issue.
Suggesting to try the generic driver was just that, a suggestion in case you didn't try or seen the Orion 32 thread... or got in touch with Antelope (IIRC, they suggested this to at least one Cubase user). Can't know in advance what you did try.

I'm also a customer (have been for over 10 years regarding Steinberg and other 40 developers) and use the software myself to mix for clients - I know what the users need and wouldn't dare to be offensive.

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No , you didn' t.
That sentence was formulated really bad. I was referring to "the company", and companies, who tends to hide issues.
Sai com' è, l' inglese non è la mia lingua madre. :)

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Re: So 7.5 is here (almost)

Postby edomago » Sun Dec 01, 2013 12:40 pm

ufoqbase wrote:
Fabio Bartolini wrote:Hello,

may I say this is not beta-testing, but touble-shooting one's installation?

Sorry, but Steinberg cannot be responsible for thousands of third-party plug-ins. It wouldn't be feasible as well.
As forthwith pointed out, bridged plug-ins are a huge problem for some users. I'm writing an article about this and hope to have it ready for monday. And I hope it will help the users to configure the plug-ins installation and solve their problems.

There was at least two moderators reading all the time today. As you can see, everything's still there ;)



Fabio, this looks like hide the hands.... if Cubase 6.5 does not have these problems with all 3rd parts plugs, why Cubase 7 have it? I don't speak about the mixer horrible concept they gave us.... unusable, unreadable.
So we have to test all these plugs for Steinberg? This is beta testing..... everywhere.

Steinberg it's responsible about releasing Cubase 7 too early, ask money for that, refuse refunding for people asked that, for me it's impossible work with Cubase 7.0,6 under OSX until now, Melodyne does not work, Native Instruments have problems and I don't speak about thousand plugs just these 2, the most used and important. Another thing I remember is the 49euro requested 2 years ago to upgrade to 6.5, promising bug fixes, but even C6.5 is solid now Variaudio 1 was never fixed, the VST connection can't save External FX configuration and so on....

Personally I'm feeling offended, like the others in the forum... Steinberg don't like that? Sorry!!!, I and We need a rock solid version before every single penny to ask. Fortunately i've sold my Nuendo license I can't imagine my frustration on Nuendo 6. Im still happy to use Cubase 6.5.5, incredible rock solid with all the original plugs i've in my computer under 64bit and RME audio. All under OSX 10.7.5 and 10.8 :D



It is quite strange though that C7 has all theese issues. Isn' t it based on C6.5 ?
Or not??!?!
Maybe a major part of the program has been re written from scratch?
Why is that i can open C7 projects with C5 (five)?
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Re: So 7.5 is here (almost)

Postby ufoqbase » Sun Dec 01, 2013 12:46 pm

mrjixies wrote:
trashdinner wrote:Ok ... the ranting is really annoying and 7.5 is not even out yet :S Seriously, if you're not happy about it then just don't buy it!


The fact is we all ready BOUGHT cubase 7! And I dont mind paying for an upgrade with new features. HOWEVER I do mind paying for mayor FLAWS being fixed in a PAID UPDATE! If these mayor flaws are being fixed in 7.0.7 you wont hear another word from me.

But with steinberg, It's like buying a new car with a stuttering engine, yes you can go from a to b but it's not going to be a smooth ride. When you go back to the dealer they promise to fix the engine, but they also will repaint the car, put a nice spoiler on the back, change the seat covers and BILL you for it! But I just wanted the engine to be fixed??? Sorry chap, thats just not possible at steinberg's garage!



This is what i mean with "We", dear Svenne.... this is the point, maybe you use windows and all works great for you, but I work with Cubase and my customers don't want see crash and time lost in studio. Melodyne it's VST3 and does not work like under C6.5, NI it's VST2 ok I could accept some problems until they decide to update to VST3, but this problem not exist under C6.5 in 64bit mode. I want to remember than NI gave us a free updates and free new plugs and libraries for Komplete until next big release. Cubase 6.5 it's the best audio DAW ever I can't say how much I'm happy to use it, and I was expecting amazing new release 7, but was incompatible with Cubase 6 songs, problems with plugs, removed features from the mixer etc etc. Yes C7 it's like a car as described before.
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Re: So 7.5 is here (almost)

Postby Buchanan » Sun Dec 01, 2013 1:37 pm

I find this really funny. Cubase 7 (but it was repeated at every new version) works fine, hardly any comment for months. Few bugs, nothing showstopping for those that use the program the way it was designed to be used. Then, as soon as the new version is announced, all these "bugfixess" seem to have been requested for years. Thing is. All the same complainers. The forumbunnies who have dug themselves a little hole here and can't get out. You all USE Cubase? And yet can't work out how to use the forum?!
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Re: So 7.5 is here (almost)

Postby Marsman » Sun Dec 01, 2013 1:45 pm

ufoqbase wrote: and I will not upgrade to 8 if Steinberg will not fix all bugs and compatibility problems with 3rd party plugs..


how about you go ask the 3rd party making the 3rd party plug to fix the 3rd party plug problem? :roll:
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Re: So 7.5 is here (almost)

Postby XL » Sun Dec 01, 2013 2:12 pm

Is there any source (PDF) which I am not aware of which describes not the new features of 7.5 but the Version History ("Issues resolved")? I can remember there was such a document for 6.5...
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Re: So 7.5 is here (almost)

Postby lukasbrooklyn » Sun Dec 01, 2013 2:20 pm

XL wrote:Is there any source (PDF) which I am not aware of which describes not the new features of 7.5 but the Version History ("Issues resolved")? I can remember there was such a document for 6.5...


on a related note, once on 7.5, can anyone confirm whether this bug has been fixed, or, to use the SB narrative, "still needs some improvement"? thank you. (re: viewtopic.php?f=196&t=37118&start=25 ; the elastique ill implementation that is)
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Re: So 7.5 is here (almost)

Postby Svenne » Sun Dec 01, 2013 3:02 pm

XL wrote:Is there any source (PDF) which I am not aware of which describes not the new features of 7.5 but the Version History ("Issues resolved")? I can remember there was such a document for 6.5...

There probably will be on Wednesday, when 7.5 is released. ;)
http://www.steinberg.net/en/products/cu ... loads.html

ufoqbase wrote:This is what i mean with "We", dear Svenne.... this is the point, maybe you use windows and all works great for you, but I work with Cubase and my customers don't want see crash and time lost in studio. Melodyne it's VST3 and does not work like under C6.5, NI it's VST2 ok I could accept some problems until they decide to update to VST3, but this problem not exist under C6.5 in 64bit mode. I want to remember than NI gave us a free updates and free new plugs and libraries for Komplete until next big release. Cubase 6.5 it's the best audio DAW ever I can't say how much I'm happy to use it, and I was expecting amazing new release 7, but was incompatible with Cubase 6 songs, problems with plugs, removed features from the mixer etc etc. Yes C7 it's like a car as described before.

That still doesn't tell me who "we" are, your majesty.

I use Cubase 7 with Kontakt aswell and have absolutely no problems with the combination at all. If Cubase works so poorly for you, why don't you switch to another DAW that you believe will work better? I suggest you check out my previous posting about how to track down problematic plug-ins:
viewtopic.php?f=181&t=50955&start=175#p311216
Ranting about how poor Cubase is helps noone!

ufoqbase wrote:maybe you use windows and all works great for you,

Well, we know that you can write (or should I say rant?). Can you read aswell?
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Re: So 7.5 is here (almost)

Postby Mrhehon » Sun Dec 01, 2013 3:16 pm

Svenne wrote:
ufoqbase wrote:maybe you use windows and all works great for you,

Well, we know that you can write (or should I say rant?). Can you read aswell?
Tip! Check my profile below. (Or ask someone to read it to you, if you're not able.)


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Re: So 7.5 is here (almost)

Postby Mrhehon » Sun Dec 01, 2013 4:39 pm

There are a lot of people on this forum that assume that they are talking for the majority of Cubase users. We want this and we don’t want this.

Ok for the record, I don’t need my Cubase 7 fixed. I work a busy little studio, recording rock, pop, jazz and even electronic and my Cubase 7.06 is rock solid, it also works fine with my 3rd party plugins as long as they are 64bit.
One of my small worries about upgrading to 7.5 is how stable 7.06 is, but of course I will keep working 7 until 7.5 has been well tested in my set up.

Even if you have a Ph.D. please don’t assume that you know what a recording engineer wants from his DAW. Stops, glitches, electro drum loops are often requested in the production during a mixdown from paying customers. I’m quite pleased with the new toys in 7.5 and for only 49 euros bargain.

papi61 wrote:Who said anything about me being an engineer? I'm a classically-trained composer with a Ph.D. "beatzmakers" are DJ's, remixers, whatever you want to call them, but they don't actually make music, just rearrange someone else's loops.

I’m 54 and I’m not a DJ or beatzmaker as you put it but I know many as I do classical musicians and one is as skilled as the other. Do you realise how arrogant as well as ignorant that made you sound.

Anyway SB thank you for realising that we have a choice of which companies DAW we use and for (IMHO) being heads above the rest.
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Re: So 7.5 is here (almost)

Postby AAMedia » Sun Dec 01, 2013 5:15 pm

I'm not falling for this anymore. It feels like I just bought 7 not that long ago after a short lived 6.5. I'll wait for 8.0. No more x.5 versions for me.
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Re: So 7.5 is here (almost)

Postby More Cowbell » Sun Dec 01, 2013 6:25 pm

Stay with cubase. Switching Daws only make you slow. The few functions still missing will come. That is the nature of business. Companies watch what's new ans wants to stay in business. Windows management will.be resolved in cubase 8 for example.
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Re: So 7.5 is here (almost)

Postby digifot » Sun Dec 01, 2013 6:50 pm

The reason I feel optimistic with the new update is that now I'm certain that Steinberg has a concrete plan for the future of Cubase. With version 7 they introduced a brand new mixer, which until then was the only major handicap of Cubase in view of the other DAWs (mainly Pro Tools and Logic). Now they continue by restructuring the interface (plus offering some goodies for marketing reasons). This tells me that there's a specific list of innovations that they intend to implement methodically, as they move towards version 8 and beyond. I think that they aim to make Cubase not only the top DAW (which in my opinion it already is), but the uncontested top DAW. I must say that in view of their historical good results I trust them and I wish them every success.
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Re: So 7.5 is here (almost)

Postby forthwith » Sun Dec 01, 2013 7:51 pm

digifot wrote:The reason I feel optimistic with the new update is that now I'm certain that Steinberg has a concrete plan for the future of Cubase. With version 7 they introduced a brand new mixer, which until then was the only major handicap of Cubase in view of the other DAW's (mainly Pro Tools and Logic). Now they continue by restructuring the interface (plus offering some goodies for marketing reasons).


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Re: So 7.5 is here (almost)

Postby paolobale » Sun Dec 01, 2013 8:25 pm

Ok, a ne upgrade. I was waiting.
For some reasons, one the new Maverics options on the screen services, very helpful in my workflow, for the mixer issues, for the Markers Loop naming never used in exporting audio to naming automatically as the loop is (see the Cubase 5 to understand what change) and for many other things. Cubase 7 works fine, but I think the upgrade should be needed as a patch for this release not really complete. But I understand you have to pay your job, and I pay you but honestly I hope there is some solution on some lacks, as per example an issue I found from the 6, never resolved:
"waiting for video service", than the video don't work anymore till you close and re start cubase.
And this happened also if you don't use any video and also if you use screen instead external video. I write this in the correct part of this forum but seems not take in account by anyone.

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Re: So 7.5 is here (almost)

Postby forthwith » Sun Dec 01, 2013 9:48 pm

paolobale wrote:...as per example an issue I found from the 6, never resolved:
"waiting for video service", than the video don't work anymore till you close and re start cubase.
do you have quicktime installed?
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Re: So 7.5 is here (almost)

Postby suntower » Sun Dec 01, 2013 10:00 pm

Junior Member. Senior Troll. One wonders the attraction of reincarnating over and over to provide this <cough> 'public service'.

forthwith wrote:
paolobale wrote:...as per example an issue I found from the 6, never resolved:
"waiting for video service", than the video don't work anymore till you close and re start cubase.
do you have quicktime installed?
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