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Re: CUbase 7.5…when?

Postby forthwith » Sat Nov 23, 2013 9:32 am

hikarateboy wrote:Considering how buggy 7 is do we really expect 7.5 this soon and would they really be able to charge for it? Id rather stay where I am at with bug fixes than get new features on top of a platform that still has a good amount of problems. Kicking my self for upgrading from 6.5 so soon.


Why, because you paid for features in an application that will ultimately become stable?
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Re: CUbase 7.5…when?

Postby themarqueeyears » Sat Nov 23, 2013 7:41 pm

With every update I quietly cross my fingers and hope that SB have finally implemented proper VCA's in the mixer.

Actually at this point I'd be thrilled if I could just name linked groups instead of them having just a number, which is PITA when mixing a project with a large track count.

I also cross my finger SB have added linked automation editing as a check box with the group attributes.

VCA's and linked automation editing for me personally would not only finally diminish any desire I have to mix in Pro Tools HD but also elevate Cubase to be a very serious mix environment for a professional mix engineer.

These two features in 7.5 would indeed be an excellent Xmas present, however considering the work SB have had getting Cubase7 into a stable state, I have to face the fact these features are unlikely to come in Cubase7 and "hopefully" will surface in Cubase 8 .... hopefully :-)
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Re: CUbase 7.5…when?

Postby jonsolo » Sat Nov 23, 2013 9:23 pm

It could be be a free 7.5 update for users after "insert date here" and a proportional paid upgrade for 7.0 users. I also agree that they could be releasing a 7.5 with a free provisional of 7.0.7.

Of course it could be Nuendo 6.5, ha ok, not likely.
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Re: CUbase 7.5…when?

Postby forthwith » Sat Nov 23, 2013 9:58 pm

themarqueeyears wrote:Actually at this point I'd be thrilled if I could just name linked groups instead of them having just a number, which is PITA when mixing a project with a large track count.


I don't know about the automation question, but as for VCA's could you post a screenshot?

We must remember SB needs to create new features, otherwise no one will buy it unless something changes in the underlying OS and a new version is developed as a consequence rather than bug fixes for old, i.e. to market a new product.
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Re: CUbase 7.5…when?

Postby JMCecil » Sat Nov 23, 2013 10:49 pm

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Re: CUbase 7.5…when?

Postby Telogic » Sat Nov 23, 2013 11:00 pm

As said before i think this is going to be cubase 8 they say a major update the picture is a cubase box design .i think a lot of changes are coming .music tech magazine has an article in there latest mag saying a major update.
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Re: CUbase 7.5…when?

Postby themarqueeyears » Sat Nov 23, 2013 11:37 pm

forthwith wrote:
themarqueeyears wrote:Actually at this point I'd be thrilled if I could just name linked groups instead of them having just a number, which is PITA when mixing a project with a large track count.


I don't know about the automation question, but as for VCA's could you post a screenshot?

We must remember SB needs to create new features, otherwise no one will buy it unless something changes in the underlying OS and a new version is developed as a consequence rather than bug fixes for old, i.e. to market a new product.


Why do you want a screen shot - if you don't mind me asking?

Have you ever mixed with VCA's ?
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Re: CUbase 7.5…when?

Postby mozizo » Sun Nov 24, 2013 12:07 am

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Re: CUbase 7.5…when?

Postby forthwith » Sun Nov 24, 2013 1:21 am

themarqueeyears wrote:Why do you want a screen shot - if you don't mind me asking?


I don't mind you asking but if you don't make the case effectively, then others' will not know what you are talking about, hence they will not be able to +1.
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Re: CUbase 7.5…when?

Postby Headlands » Sun Nov 24, 2013 1:34 am

I agree with all of your points here. These things would indeed finally (almost) raise Cubendo the level that Pro Tools is at for mixing. When we also get our actual names of the sends in the automation lanes (this is a major, glaring problem that has lingered for a long time), we'll pretty much be there.

themarqueeyears wrote:With every update I quietly cross my fingers and hope that SB have finally implemented proper VCA's in the mixer.

Actually at this point I'd be thrilled if I could just name linked groups instead of them having just a number, which is PITA when mixing a project with a large track count.

I also cross my finger SB have added linked automation editing as a check box with the group attributes.

VCA's and linked automation editing for me personally would not only finally diminish any desire I have to mix in Pro Tools HD but also elevate Cubase to be a very serious mix environment for a professional mix engineer.

These two features in 7.5 would indeed be an excellent Xmas present, however considering the work SB have had getting Cubase7 into a stable state, I have to face the fact these features are unlikely to come in Cubase7 and "hopefully" will surface in Cubase 8 .... hopefully :-)
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Re: CUbase 7.5…when?

Postby Headlands » Sun Nov 24, 2013 1:40 am

forthwith wrote:
themarqueeyears wrote:Why do you want a screen shot - if you don't mind me asking?


I don't mind you asking but if you don't make the case effectively, then others' will not know what you are talking about, hence they will not be able to +1.


A screen shot will do little -- if nothing -- to explain VCAs and why it's such a big advantage for mixing.

"For complex sessions with lots of automation, create VCA groups to get another layer of gain control over groups that already have automation. And, unlike with region groups, you’ll also be able to solo and mute channels within a VCA group independently—without affecting the other tracks—enabling you to work faster and more easily with grouped items." And you don't need to mess around with creating new groups, routing, etc., to access this feature.

One of many examples: Auditioning level/other automation changes easily over large amounts of channels would be possible in a way that is currently impossible in Cubendo. Another example: Making broad changes to multiple channels, groups, etc., without affecting actual automation writing, such as lowering specific channels to avoid peaking your mix buss, etc.
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Re: CUbase 7.5…when?

Postby forthwith » Sun Nov 24, 2013 2:07 am

Headlands wrote:A screen shot will do little -- if nothing -- to explain VCA's and why it's such a big advantage for mixing.


VCA mixing would be a great feature for sure, but I was actually asking about named (as opposed to numbered) groups.

When we also get our actual names of the sends in the automation lanes (this is a major, glaring problem that has lingered for a long time), we'll pretty much be there.
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Re: CUbase 7.5…when?

Postby Headlands » Sun Nov 24, 2013 2:09 am

forthwith wrote:VCA mixing would be a great feature for sure, but I was actually asking about named (as opposed to numbered) groups.


Oh -- my bad!
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Re: CUbase 7.5…when?

Postby forthwith » Sun Nov 24, 2013 2:17 am

Headlands wrote:Oh -- my bad!


In this case, maybe you could also post a screenshot as well :)
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Re: CUbase 7.5…when?

Postby hikarateboy » Tue Nov 26, 2013 10:16 pm

forthwith wrote:
hikarateboy wrote:Considering how buggy 7 is do we really expect 7.5 this soon and would they really be able to charge for it? Id rather stay where I am at with bug fixes than get new features on top of a platform that still has a good amount of problems. Kicking my self for upgrading from 6.5 so soon.


Why, because you paid for features in an application that will ultimately become stable?


Yes. That's was the point. I should have waited to buy till it was.

Steinberg seems to be using customers as QA more and more while asking them to pay each time for the privilege.
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Re: CUbase 7.5…when?

Postby forthwith » Wed Nov 27, 2013 7:44 am

Steinberg seems to be using customers as QA more and more while asking them to pay each time for the privilege.

While that may be subjectively true, there are benefits to an opt-in test model, where subjects are informed up front as to how great, awesome or brilliant something is.
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Re: CUbase 7.5…when?

Postby hikarateboy » Wed Nov 27, 2013 4:03 pm

forthwith wrote:
Steinberg seems to be using customers as QA more and more while asking them to pay each time for the privilege.

While that may be subjectively true, there are benefits to an opt-in test model, where subjects are informed up front as to how great, awesome or brilliant something is.


Not to mention being told that they are participating in beta testing.
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Re: CUbase 7.5…when?

Postby forthwith » Wed Nov 27, 2013 8:32 pm

hikarateboy wrote:Not to mention being told that they are participating in beta testing.


This again may be objectively correct, but imagine an army of 100,100 + Cubendo users, all contentiously using and positively contributing towards product development, where true professionals steer the direction of the application; and not some computer scientist.
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Re: CUbase 7.5…when?

Postby Centralmusic » Wed Nov 27, 2013 8:50 pm

Bredo wrote:
mozizo wrote:Bredo your Avatar is disturbing :!: ;)

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Re: CUbase 7.5…when?

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Re: CUbase 7.5…when?

Postby mozizo » Wed Nov 27, 2013 9:28 pm

:lol: :lol: :lol: :mrgreen:
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Re: CUbase 7.5…when?

Postby Bacizone » Wed Nov 27, 2013 11:53 pm

SB, please do not release anything until you test and bugfix test and bugfix test and bugfix test and bugfix test and bugfix test and bugfix (could have been written a thousand times) the s**t out of Cubase.
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Re: CUbase 7.5…when?

Postby JMCecil » Thu Nov 28, 2013 12:14 am

Bacizone wrote:SB, please do not release anything until you test and bugfix test and bugfix test and bugfix test and bugfix test and bugfix test and bugfix (could have been written a thousand times) the s**t out of Cubase.

SB, please don't sell anything to Bacizone until the rest of us give him the "all clear"
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Re: CUbase 7.5…when?

Postby raino » Thu Nov 28, 2013 12:46 am

Soon, very soon...
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Re: CUbase 7.5…when?

Postby jaslan » Thu Nov 28, 2013 2:54 am

Steinberg. Please release whatever you want, whenever you want, in whatever condition you want. We will be smart consumers and do our homework to ensure it is a good value to us before spending our hard earned money.
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