Lydiot wrote:To me this seems to be just crappy design by people who don't use the DAW professionally or listen to the consumers. That's what it seems like to me.
But they sure thought it looked cool
I do not want to sound like an old conservative parrot - but for me it looks like that since years. They are changing something in a way where 9 out of 10 users are complaining as well as they are heavily interrupted in their workflow.
The last thing (before N6) they changed in a poser-way is the events GUI - the whole N5 thing was way behind N4 regarding the look of Events, overlapping etc... I really do not know why they spend time to change something good and professional to something looking and feeling like Garage Band.
It tooks almost all the time a big version is out till everything is working fine - for example latest 5.5.6 seems to be a good release, I am still on 5.5.4 because I am in the middle of finishing a big session - but as it seems to me 5.5.6 could be a version which can give me pleasure for a long time here.
I think it is not always bad to invent something new - in the first moment I hated how Nuendo changed when going from V1 to V2... V1 was for me the "holy grail" 12 or 13 years ago and Nuendo 2 was something complete different, and it was a very weak release in the beginning. Serious features were broken... Crossfades were clicking and stuff, it took ages till everything was fine - but in the end we had with Nuendo 3 a quite brilliant release. I was using Nuendo 3 for a long time, like I did with Nuendo 1.52.
So the design which was implemented with V2 is basically the design we have with latest 5.5.6 - just that 5.5.6 is optimized close to perfection incl features I always wanted.
Now they get rid of everything which worked good for us and made Nuendo 6. (Or Cubase 7 - not talking about Cubase now to keep it simple).
And I have to say that I love the idea behind the new console and - well - in some way I could live with the new look and all - it lacks a little bit that "real mixing desk" feeling/look, which I think is bad, because that "real mixing desk" thing is working for both - for the client who is just watching me while mixing - and for the engineer who is able to use the desk intuitively because everything is there were you would look for it.
So the new look is more "iPad app" style... well... why not... I could have been great to have "real looking" faders and stuff, but this is not a showstopper.
I can not understand why they were not able to "modify" the old and existing design in a way that all the new features are implemented but still keeping the old mixing desk. Of course there will be need to change things to make others fit into an existing concept - no problem! Maybe the could chance the color as well or make a new fader-optic.. what they want.
But I can really not understand why the left out all these buttons which we all are used to.
Plugin slot with the plugin, above the on/off switch, then the bypass button and last but not least the editor-button.
So it is straight:
Clicking on the plugin ---> pulldown for selecting another plugin or no plugin
Clicking the on/off --> Plugin is switched on or completely off
Clicking the bypass ---> Plugin is bypassed
Clicking the "e" --> You have the plugin editor open/closed.
Now that is simple.
Now I have to take care to NOT remove the plugin just because I clicked on an area slightly "off" - because I have to click just a solid bar (Plugin) for all these features - including double click for editor... When things go fast and you are "into it" - it happens all the time that you click too fast so the command "double click" is interpreted by the computer as "single click" - in that case you have to take care not to remove the plugin ...
The overall mixing desk thing is ok - beside the fact that the design is suboptimal regarding the sizes - I have gigantic fader handles and in the same times thoses poti knobs from the channel strip are micro-sized, on a high res laptop screen all the space is used up from things which I do not need and in the same time I have to fiddle with knobs with a size of a Mosqitos Poo.
Not talking about control room and channel editor... Here is said enough.
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