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Cubase could be sold and delivered on Steam Platform.

Postby ShikiSuen » Fri Dec 14, 2012 6:48 am

Well, eLc is still of necessary...
But using Steam could make delivery easier.
If someone has an eLc, just buy and download the entire product online.

And, Steam could allow people to cooperate while making project together... even using remote VST-instruments.

BTW, Cubase could be VAC-Protected... If someone use the pirated version, his Steam account will be VAC-Banned.
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Re: Cubase could be sold and delivered on Steam Platform.

Postby Strophoid » Fri Dec 14, 2012 1:17 pm

PLEASE NO.
and not just because Steam only sells games.
Also because steam runs like a steaming pile of excrement on lots of systems like my own, it's an annoying, sluggish and buggy application.

And Cubase really doesn't belong on Steam, what gave you that idea?
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Re: Cubase could be sold and delivered on Steam Platform.

Postby Paul Bryce » Sat Dec 15, 2012 12:20 am

This is a joke. Right?
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Re: Cubase could be sold and delivered on Steam Platform.

Postby Bassbase » Sat Dec 15, 2012 12:32 am

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Re: Cubase could be sold and delivered on Steam Platform.

Postby curteye » Sat Dec 15, 2012 12:36 am

ShikiSuen wrote:And, Steam could allow people to cooperate while making project together.


Aloha S,

Isn't that what VST Connect SE is for?
Seems with C7 we already have what you have suggested.

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Re: Cubase could be sold and delivered on Steam Platform.

Postby Elektrobolt » Sat Dec 15, 2012 4:15 am

ShikiSuen wrote:Well, eLc is still of necessary...

Right...

ShikiSuen wrote:But using Steam could make delivery easier.

By that, you mean double the number of steps?

1. Download steam.
2. Install steam.
3. Create a steam account.
4. Purchase Cubase.
5. Download Cubase.
6. Install Cubase.

ShikiSuen wrote:If someone has an eLc, just buy and download the entire product online.

How is this different from now?

ShikiSuen wrote:And, Steam could allow people to cooperate while making project together... even using remote VST-instruments.

VST Connect SE?

ShikiSuen wrote:BTW, Cubase could be VAC-Protected... If someone use the pirated version, his Steam account will be VAC-Banned.

Women don't steal?

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Get real. Why would I want another application downloader crapware on my machine? I bet they have commercials, suggestions and offers too.... My PC's are professional workstations, not iGadgets, mate.
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Re: Cubase could be sold and delivered on Steam Platform.

Postby Guest » Sat Dec 15, 2012 5:31 pm

steam ????? holy *knuf* crap , you mean ive been playing asteroids and pak man on here since 1989 .....i wondered what the hell ive been doing ........ah thats right cubase is just a game isn't it .

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Postby Guest » Sat Dec 15, 2012 9:35 pm

Steve Fogal wrote:Seriously though, I don't want my DAW to 'have' to be dependent in any way on the internet. My only internet source is on my smart phone, which I don't stream, upload or down load from...appart from very small files associated with email. I want my machine to be a stand-alone system.

But... for those who want stream/download, there should be that option.


the problem with c7 is tho steve for vst connect you need an internet connection ,for the hub you need an internet connection ,im like you i don't want my daw connected to the internet for the risk of viruses even tho it would only ever connect too steinberg and uad ,novation,motu im stil really dubious about it , i use the laptop to download what ever i need then install it on my daw
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Postby Duart Jansen » Sun Dec 16, 2012 2:20 pm

Elektrobolt wrote:
ShikiSuen wrote:And, Steam could allow people to cooperate while making project together... even using remote VST-instruments.

VST Connect SE?




VST Connect SE promises you can cooperate on a project together, but what it really does is just give you the opportunity to record or listen to someone else around the globe, if you call that working together, you sure got a strange way of working...
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Re: Cubase could be sold and delivered on Steam Platform.

Postby foolomon » Wed Dec 26, 2012 1:37 am

Duart Jansen wrote:
Elektrobolt wrote:
ShikiSuen wrote:And, Steam could allow people to cooperate while making project together... even using remote VST-instruments.

VST Connect SE?




VST Connect SE promises you can cooperate on a project together, but what it really does is just give you the opportunity to record or listen to someone else around the globe, if you call that working together, you sure got a strange way of working...


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Re: Cubase could be sold and delivered on Steam Platform.

Postby Mr M » Thu Dec 27, 2012 2:13 am

filterfreak wrote:
Steve Fogal wrote:Seriously though, I don't want my DAW to 'have' to be dependent in any way on the internet. My only internet source is on my smart phone, which I don't stream, upload or down load from...appart from very small files associated with email. I want my machine to be a stand-alone system.

But... for those who want stream/download, there should be that option.


the problem with c7 is tho steve for vst connect you need an internet connection ,for the hub you need an internet connection ,im like you i don't want my daw connected to the internet for the risk of viruses even tho it would only ever connect too steinberg and uad ,novation,motu im stil really dubious about it , i use the laptop to download what ever i need then install it on my daw


I can't see how this is a problem for Cubase 7 in terms of a user that doesn't have their daw online. All the functionality of Cubase 7 is still there otherwise and if you dont have your daw online then you are used to working without connectivity in a studio.How else could concepts like Vst Connect and the Hub work without a connection?

After years of refusing I setup a connection for my daw this year. It's the best single move I've made in a long time. Registering software and getting sounds is 100times easier. There really is no threat of getting a virus unless you do web surfing . All you need is a firewall and Windows Defender and maybe Malwarebytes
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Re: Cubase could be sold and delivered on Steam Platform.

Postby emotive » Thu Dec 27, 2012 5:19 am

Mr M wrote:
filterfreak wrote:the problem with c7 is tho steve for vst connect you need an internet connection ,for the hub you need an internet connection ,im like you i don't want my daw connected to the internet for the risk of viruses even tho it would only ever connect too steinberg and uad ,novation,motu im stil really dubious about it , i use the laptop to download what ever i need then install it on my daw


After years of refusing I setup a connection for my daw this year. It's the best single move I've made in a long time. Registering software and getting sounds is 100times easier. There really is no threat of getting a virus unless you do web surfing . All you need is a firewall and Windows Defender and maybe Malwarebytes


I use MSE and never had any issues, plus I backup to Windows Live Skydrive for all my project files.

You get some problems every now and then with Office 2013, but I archive to a second hard drive anyway.
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Re: Cubase could be sold and delivered on Steam Platform.

Postby emotive » Thu Dec 27, 2012 6:54 am

It's not all bad.

You can have the machine running your DAW connected via Ethernet and run a hardware firewall if anyone is seriously paranoid about the web.

Personally I need my DAW online so I can upload stems via FTP, which is not by definition a dangerous or destabilizing activity.

Most problems come via the browser and in particular downloads. Opera protects me on that front by its' sophisticated handling of MIME types.
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Re: Cubase could be sold and delivered on Steam Platform.

Postby ShikiSuen » Fri Dec 06, 2013 5:53 am

What I want to tell is that Cakewalk Music Creator and some productivity products from other company were on sale on Steam.
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Postby Jeff Hayat » Fri Dec 06, 2013 7:27 am

Heh, when I saw the thread title, I thought you were trying to say that Cubase could be sold and delivered on a Steam Boat, b/c the d/l was so slow. :lol:
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Postby papi61 » Fri Dec 06, 2013 7:42 am

ShikiSuen wrote:What I want to tell is that Cakewalk Music Creator and some productivity products from other company were on sale on Steam.


You're talking low-end consumer products, not pro-audio (or pro-video) suites. Cakewalk certainly aren't selling Sonar X3 through Steam.
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Re: Cubase could be sold and delivered on Steam Platform.

Postby ShikiSuen » Fri Dec 06, 2013 10:29 am

papi61 wrote:
ShikiSuen wrote:What I want to tell is that Cakewalk Music Creator and some productivity products from other company were on sale on Steam.


You're talking low-end consumer products, not pro-audio (or pro-video) suites. Cakewalk certainly aren't selling Sonar X3 through Steam.

Then why Steinberg doesn't sell Sequel and Cubase Elements on Steam? :?
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Re: Cubase could be sold and delivered on Steam Platform.

Postby papi61 » Fri Dec 06, 2013 10:52 am

ShikiSuen wrote:
papi61 wrote:
ShikiSuen wrote:What I want to tell is that Cakewalk Music Creator and some productivity products from other company were on sale on Steam.


You're talking low-end consumer products, not pro-audio (or pro-video) suites. Cakewalk certainly aren't selling Sonar X3 through Steam.

Then why Steinberg doesn't sell Sequel and Cubase Elements on Steam? :?


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Postby curteye » Fri Dec 06, 2013 11:14 am

Does Steam take a 'piece of the action'?

If so what's next?

Cubase on the App Store
or Google Play
or Amazon?

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Re: Cubase could be sold and delivered on Steam Platform.

Postby papi61 » Sat Dec 07, 2013 10:59 pm

curteye wrote:Does Steam take a 'piece of the action'?


Of course they do. Not only that, but they force you to run their application in the background, which I'm pretty sure messes with a lot of the processes going on in a DAW. So, I guess it's still OK if it's an entry-level product like Music Creator or Sequel, but professionals and serious amateurs would never accept that with a pro-level DAW like Cubase or Sonar.
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Postby Strophoid » Sat Dec 07, 2013 11:24 pm

I run steam on my gaming desktop and I would never ever run it on my daw. It hogs my pc significantly, to the point that I try to avoid using it. It's just that the deals they have are extremely good. It works for many people though, so it must be related to my setup. Still not going anywhere near my daw laptop.
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Postby Elektrobolt » Sat Dec 07, 2013 11:58 pm

Why should I need to install a piece of software just so that I can install another piece of software?
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Re: Cubase could be sold and delivered on Steam Platform.

Postby papi61 » Sun Dec 08, 2013 2:59 am

Elektrobolt wrote:Why should I need to install a piece of software just so that I can install another piece of software?


Officially, it's to provide a common platform for online gaming.
Unofficially, it's to fight piracy (not much fun to play an online game alone...) and sell you more stuff. I read somewhere that their limited-time sales constitute something like 75% of their entire business.
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Postby Strophoid » Sun Dec 08, 2013 1:07 pm

Elektrobolt wrote:Why should I need to install a piece of software just so that I can install another piece of software?

Mostly for licensing and providing updates.
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Re: Cubase could be sold and delivered on Steam Platform.

Postby Elektrobolt » Sun Dec 08, 2013 4:55 pm

The USB eLicenser works great at licensing, it's simple and it keeps my work machines off the Internet. I download updates on a separate machine and copy between setups using USB memory sticks.

Why would I want to manage yet another account for yet another service?
Steam would force computers to be on the Internet, if not always then some of the time.
It would also require me to run at least one additional application/service running.
Does Steam download advertisements in the background?

(The questions are rhetorical. ;) )

Nah, I am sorry, but if it's not better, they can keep it.
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