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Re: Napoli - mix 2

Postby kzarider » Mon Jun 17, 2013 6:19 am

Life is tough enough without bashing those who we seek help and guidance from. I actually do come here as opposed to other sites for help in things that I mess up and hearing things I miss. I have done 3 or 4 edits since everyone shared their thoughts with me for no charge. Each change has truly help the music. I haven't agreed with every statement that anyone has made but I never would count them as invalid either.

It's life experience story time lol I had a teacher growing up that would put a panel of his best students together to critique our playing. Each lesson started that way. They blasted me and it should of hurt. I went home and practiced, they blasted less. This went on for months with me working harder at it, till the day came when they couldn't find anything to say bad. Someone in panel asked teacher what he taught me that he didn't teach them, all he said was you guys are bums he listened, learned from you and practiced what you taught him. He turned to me and said now it's my turn to critique you.

That's a paraphrase and the language is a little better than he used...I really do find it a privilege to be complimented and critiqued. This forum is a fine school and I believe that Jonathon's nature is very analytical, mine is very emotional so I really enjoy/study his comments. He made me research what I wrote for that instrument and decide if it would work. His idea about adding cello/bass I actually considered but decided against because of the direction I want this to follow. I only wanted a trio (unless we add percussion) so cello is out for me, but the striking note comment in talking about Edgar Meyer's playing also has me looking for alternate articulations to make my parts more realistic. His critique has me trying to learn my instruments better. We both also know we have differences in loves of musical style because we have discussed this previously, but can anyone say that learning from someones ability doesn't make you better?

I promise I can stand up for myself if there is an uncalled for statement as I am sure a few people here can testify to. filterfreak so much thanks the compliments, I do have pretty think skin though lol. Thanks for listening ThePresent ! Wish I knew everyone's real names though

Think I had better shut up as I've had to much wine. My ears are bleeding cause the sound guy at our show was so horrible and the wine was so great :oops: . Thanks to everyone here!!! Marco and I really enjoyed working on this and he is aggressively trying to line up backers to do an entire project so we will have real people and no simulations of instruments. I'm crossing my fingers
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Re: Napoli - mix 2

Postby Early21 » Tue Jun 18, 2013 3:09 am

Kenny, well said, despite the wine! You're right; the atmosphere here has to be thick skin and positive reaction to any suggestions or criticism. That's what makes this place so useful. Still love the piece!
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Re: Napoli - mix 2

Postby HornForHire » Fri Jun 21, 2013 1:55 pm

Another beautiful piece, Kenny.
Beautiful playing by Marco. 8-)

I really enjoyed listening!
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Re: Napoli - mix 2

Postby Jonathan5456 » Fri Jun 21, 2013 2:51 pm

Yeah, I'm glad the majority of members are not only not afraid of receiving criticism but also giving it, and honestly. I feel constant praise actually starts to come across as fairly half-hearted, especially when there are no reasons given. I try to give specific reasons as to why I enjoyed something and why I didn't enjoy something so much because personally I find that both of those help me. Making criticisms and being wrong helps you learn much more than staying completely mute and never giving any thought about how or why things work.

Personally I learned that my absolute range was mistaken by an octave. But more importantly, I'd never considered having the bass striking a note and then playing a phrase so through the discussion I've added a new compositional tool to my arsenal. I still think at the pitch that it's bowing at it sounds great in unison with the violin, but I think solo it just wouldn't have as nice of a tone to it and compositionally feel a little empty.

For the benefit of those seldom sour apples that occasionally try to sound tough online; Kenny knows how much I enjoy his music, he also knows how much I respect him as a musician and we can give each other both criticism and complements without having to overdo it with insecure praise all the time. Learning is good, discussion is good, end of. Now...where's that wine Kenny and I'll join you in a glass. :D

kzarider wrote:Marco and I really enjoyed working on this and he is aggressively trying to line up backers to do an entire project so we will have real people and no simulations of instruments. I'm crossing my fingers


That sounds great, crossing my fingers too. ;) A full album of pieces like this and Someday and Forever would be great and I'd be rather privileged to be among the first to purchase it.
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Re: Napoli - mix 2

Postby jaslan » Sun Jun 23, 2013 6:12 pm

The playing and mix sound professional to me. Great job.
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Re: Napoli - mix 2

Postby weszme » Tue Jul 16, 2013 4:19 am

This is awesome. I just got lost in it. Great job Kenny!

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Re: Napoli - mix 2

Postby Lenny Lee » Wed Jul 17, 2013 2:32 pm

Mesmerizing. Nice work, as always, Kenny. As long as it is, there are always plenty of sweet surprises along the way.
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Re: Napoli - mix 2

Postby kzarider » Sun Jul 21, 2013 10:48 pm

jaslan wrote:The playing and mix sound professional to me. Great job.
Sincerely,
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Thanks J.L. !!! Mix is easy with three instruments though :)
weszme wrote:This is awesome. I just got lost in it. Great job Kenny!

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Wes that is a wonderful thing to hear, when I listen back I do too
Lenny Lee wrote:Mesmerizing. Nice work, as always, Kenny. As long as it is, there are always plenty of sweet surprises along the way.
:)

Lenny the surprises came as we were recording we had a small idea when it started and we just played and it warped. It needs real bass though :(
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Re: Napoli - mix 2

Postby twilightsong » Sun Aug 11, 2013 12:53 am

I'm not sure what all you did (or didn't do) Kenny, but the piece sounds perfect to me now. The nylon sounds much nicer, and the group all sounds like they're in the same space. 8-)
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Re: Napoli - mix 2

Postby Bane » Fri Aug 16, 2013 9:58 pm

I know I may be a bit late on this one, but I really enjoyed it, just like everything else on your page! Killer piano samples, killer piano skills. :D

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Re: Napoli

Postby foolomon » Sat Aug 17, 2013 4:25 pm

kzarider wrote:
foolomon wrote:Its a lot easier to record in the winter :roll:


:lol: True, oh so true.

I just revisited this song after listening to it two months ago for the first time. Love the piece. It's truly a nice composition, and the melding of the guitar and piano is really well done.
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Re: Napoli - mix 2

Postby kzarider » Sun Aug 18, 2013 4:23 am

Bane wrote:I know I may be a bit late on this one, but I really enjoyed it, just like everything else on your page! Killer piano samples, killer piano skills. :D

Funny, I live pretty close to Nashville myself....

Really? Would like to get together one day, let's try and make that happen!
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Re: Napoli - mix 2

Postby Bane » Sun Aug 18, 2013 2:23 pm

kzarider wrote:
Bane wrote:I know I may be a bit late on this one, but I really enjoyed it, just like everything else on your page! Killer piano samples, killer piano skills. :D

Funny, I live pretty close to Nashville myself....

Really? Would like to get together one day, let's try and make that happen!


Definitely. :)
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Re: Napoli - mix 2

Postby DanielAyo » Wed Aug 21, 2013 7:24 pm

Very smooth and very soothing. Great job with the mix!

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Re: Napoli - mix 2

Postby firestamper » Wed Aug 21, 2013 8:01 pm

i thought i`d commented on this one already ,must have been the first mix,to quote Santana ,Hearing this is like eating fresh watermelon in the summer,very nice.
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Re: Napoli - mix 2

Postby Suprawill1 » Fri Aug 23, 2013 5:20 am

Nice piece Kenny! Nice to hear someone take you on a ride through the enchanted forest on an able acoustic piano. I've always preferred a classical nylon string to a steel string and it especially compliments your piano stylings. Cudos to Marco on his accompaniment. Nice natural mix too!
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