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Old Beast - sax mix up

Postby desert » Wed Aug 14, 2013 12:48 pm

funky tune with my Hammond, could use

wim HFH on sax added :D

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Re: Old Beast - by Desert

Postby shadowfax » Wed Aug 14, 2013 7:12 pm

Very slick..like the drums, the bit between 1.39 and 2.12 is way too long IMHO...but a very acomplished piece...Kevin
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Re: Old Beast - by Desert

Postby plectrumboy » Wed Aug 14, 2013 9:25 pm

This is great - very realistic and economic use of trumpet, and fabulous bass - is that you on keyboards or a real bass?

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Re: Old Beast - by Desert

Postby desert » Wed Aug 14, 2013 10:04 pm

Hi Steve,
hope you're OK , thanx for listening. This bass is a VST from spectrasonics with a realistic sound due to the keyswitch possibilities
I used the studio bass samples. The trumpet is a sample from the integra module from roland.

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Re: Old Beast - by Desert

Postby twilightsong » Thu Aug 15, 2013 6:54 am

Very nice piece 8-)

Did you program the drums? Really good job -- insightful! Keyboards of course are superb... and the trumpet sample is good and well-utilized. I tend to agree that middle section is too long, but the bigger problem with it for me is that it doesn't make much sense -- four measures, or eight at the most, would better achieve what I think you're striving for

As I was writing this, "Scape" came on -- don't think I'd heard that one. Really gorgeous piece -- 8-)
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Re: Old Beast - by Desert

Postby MFox » Thu Aug 15, 2013 7:50 am

Nice sound quality and the drums are great! Sounds very real. Michael
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Re: Old Beast - by Desert

Postby desert » Thu Aug 15, 2013 2:53 pm

Thanx for the remarks, I edited the tune and remixed it with the suggestions included.

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Re: Old Beast - by Desert

Postby jaslan » Fri Aug 16, 2013 4:20 pm

I liked it. No new comments but, again, I particularly like the bass.
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Re: Old Beast - by Desert

Postby iluvstrats » Fri Aug 16, 2013 5:49 pm

very well done. All the instruments sound real. NIce arrangement.
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Re: Old Beast - by Desert

Postby desert » Sat Aug 17, 2013 12:03 am

Thanx, the only real thing is my 40 year old Hammond A100 with a 145 leslie1

Nothing beats the real stuff.

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Re: Old Beast - by Desert

Postby foolomon » Sat Aug 17, 2013 4:29 pm

Love it! Nice groove to it.
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Re: Old Beast - by Desert

Postby Early21 » Sun Aug 18, 2013 12:30 am

Nice and funky. Trumpet sounds ok until you get to the part where it's on its own. Great drums.
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Re: Old Beast - by Desert

Postby kzarider » Sun Aug 18, 2013 4:42 am

Didn't hear the original prior to edits but current arrangement sounds great. The hat might be a bit loud or maybe just 2 much hi end on it. Could be the overhead mic bleed???
I love all the sounds but unfortunately the synth trumpet doesn't cut it for me. Would be great to hear with a real player, that would put this piece over the top... but I understand expenses and not being able to get players to do this stuff :(

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Re: Old Beast - by Desert

Postby JSW » Sun Aug 18, 2013 5:01 am

Tasty! Loved the groove and arrangement. jw
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Re: Old Beast - by Desert

Postby desert » Sun Aug 18, 2013 7:59 am

Still a lot of good and experienced listeners on this forum.
Lot of ( positive) remarks on the bass, thats is nice and confirms the quality of this VSTi, the playing took me some time placing the glissando's and so on on the the right spot. Tweaked it in the mix with the usual EQ.
I agree with kzander about the hihat, it is prominent. I used a stylus beat for it will have a look at the kit again. ;)
About the trumpet...yes i prefer the real stuff, did some collabs with Wim (HFH) maybe he wants to join in ;)
Anyway some good feedback to work on. Thank you for that.

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Re: Old Beast - by Desert

Postby foolomon » Sun Aug 18, 2013 2:46 pm

I've had enough with not having access to a trumpeter... :D I've started asking around to see if I can find someone to use for the occasional jazz piece. No guarantees but maybe we'll collectively get lucky.
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Re: Old Beast - by Desert

Postby kzarider » Sun Aug 18, 2013 8:52 pm

desert wrote:Still a lot of good and experienced listeners on this forum.
Lot of ( positive) remarks on the bass, thats is nice and confirms the quality of this VSTi, the playing took me some time placing the glissando's and so on on the the right spot. Tweaked it in the mix with the usual EQ.
I agree with kzander about the hihat, it is prominent. I used a stylus beat for it will have a look at the kit again. ;)
About the trumpet...yes i prefer the real stuff, did some collabs with Wim (HFH) maybe he wants to join in ;)
Anyway some good feedback to work on. Thank you for that.

regards.

You might try to dip (wide Q) a little around 2-4k to see if that helps on hat/cymbal 2 db should really be enough... also roll off starting around 16k. Just play around with those frequency cause im just guessing :) Did you use a limiter on that channel?
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Re: Old Beast - by Desert

Postby foolomon » Sun Aug 18, 2013 8:54 pm

foolomon wrote:I've had enough with not having access to a trumpeter... :D I've started asking around to see if I can find someone to use for the occasional jazz piece. No guarantees but maybe we'll collectively get lucky.


Cousin of a close friend of mine is a professional tuba player. I spoke with him briefly this morning, and he said he knows several good trumpeters including jazz players. He and I are going to speak more about this sooner rather than later, so hopefully I'll eventually have a name or two that we can introduce into the community.

But if you're looking for "now" rather than "eventually," Kenny may be the way to go.
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Re: Old Beast - by Desert

Postby foolomon » Sun Aug 18, 2013 8:58 pm

kzarider wrote:You might try to dip (wide Q) a little around 2-4k to see if that helps on hat/cymbal 2 db should really be enough... also roll off starting around 16k. Just play around with those frequency cause im just guessing :) Did you use a limiter on that channel?


I don't do a dip at 2-4k, but I do roll off at around 15k if memory serves me correctly. Of course, your mileage may vary depending on the physical properties of the cymbals and the recording technique / signal chain.
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Re: Old Beast - by Desert

Postby Suprawill1 » Fri Aug 23, 2013 7:34 am

Great job! Good groove and as everyone commented, the drums carry this tune nicely. Your keyboard playing is very jazz/funk oriented with not too much motion and a slick approach.
I feel you on having real players but you got as close as possible doing without. Your muted trumpet sounds much better than mine. :)
I agree with Kenny on the hats. Not only were the chokes a little above the mix but they seemed detached because the choke hat is far right and the original hat is closer to the center of the stereo field. Because of that, it sounded too much like an overdub. If you could move it from the far right and combine it with the kit hat, that would be a super rap on this tune.
Again, great job and good luck with this.

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Re: Old Beast - by Desert

Postby tex » Sat Aug 24, 2013 10:37 pm

duuuuuude! was hooked within the first few bars, toe tappin. love the broken beat. boy very realistic too had to do a recheck. hmmmm and u say you used Roland module/Spectrasonics - kool. i was looking into that Roland module.
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Re: Old Beast - third mix up

Postby desert » Thu Aug 29, 2013 9:25 pm

3 rd mix up , used my avalon comp/eq for it

still looking for the best mastering tweeks on it. Used wave lab

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Re: Old Beast - third mix up

Postby HornForHire » Fri Aug 30, 2013 9:23 am

Hi Peter!

Long time no see!
Good to have you back! How's things?

Great tune as usual, I love that Hammond!
And that bass playing is really cool! 8-)

I'm in for another collab with you, so if you'd like me to play on this tune just let me know.

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Re: Old Beast - third mix up

Postby desert » Fri Aug 30, 2013 11:09 am

Sax mix up, thanx to Wim :D groovy as always

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Re: Old Beast - sax mix up

Postby desert » Thu Sep 12, 2013 9:20 pm

new mix for new forum :D
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