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Happy birthday MIDI!

Postby matjones » Mon Aug 19, 2013 3:16 pm

..............http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/08/19/midi_spec_1_is_30_happy_birthday_musical_instrument_digital_interface/


and where would we be without it!! ;)

I'm old enough to remember trying to sync with CV (control voltage for anyone not of 'a certain age')..... what a total PITA it was!!!
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Re: Happy birthday MIDI!

Postby JMCecil » Mon Aug 19, 2013 3:21 pm

YAY! MIDI has been both a boon and a bane. But, no doubt if you ever had to do a series of studio config sheets in the 70s, you'll never truly *witch*.
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Re: Happy birthday MIDI!

Postby JMCecil » Mon Aug 19, 2013 4:26 pm

Also, as a guitar player ... my first AHA! moment with MIDI, was being able to cab & head switch from a footswitch. I think I did that for the first time sometime around 85/86ish. It was a DIY box and fairly expensive if I remember right.
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Re: Happy birthday MIDI!

Postby knuckle47 » Mon Aug 19, 2013 4:47 pm

There are some days now when I sit down and say. "What's MIDI ?" Yup, I have very firm grasp on it :roll:
That started in the early 80's and stayed with me all this time too!
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Re: Happy birthday MIDI!

Postby JMCecil » Mon Aug 19, 2013 4:54 pm

Steve Fogal wrote:I recall some 20 something years ago when I got a Digitech GSP 21 Pro..

I still have a GSP 2120. The only way to do anything useful with it is to use the MIDI patch editor. I hated the 2120 for guitar, but it is awesome on keys for some reason.
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Re: Happy birthday MIDI!

Postby surfer » Mon Aug 19, 2013 5:04 pm

I had, still have, an ADA MP2 tube pre-amp and the midi foot switch controller for it. Used to assign an expression pedal to gain and EQ curve. That was my introduction to midi and CCs in the early '90s.
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Re: Happy birthday MIDI!

Postby knuckle47 » Mon Aug 19, 2013 5:56 pm

Steve...I love that approach....Midi was SUCH a block for me in 1985 that I never re-visited it again until 2004 when I started with Cubase. Have a mild grip on it for recording but not like so many guys here do including yourself.

I might have said this before but my first guitar tune was Little Brown Jug, taught to me by my uncle Frank Staffa who was one of the jazz greats. He was a Connecticut Yankee with Rudy Vallee...played with the Paul Whiteman Orchestra, gave lessons and played with guys like Bucky Pizzarelli, Joe Cinderella and Tony Mottola

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Re: Happy birthday MIDI!

Postby JMCecil » Mon Aug 19, 2013 6:59 pm

knuckle47 wrote:Every Good Boy Does Fine...y'all remember that one

That one and FACE
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Re: Happy birthday MIDI!

Postby JMCecil » Mon Aug 19, 2013 7:01 pm

Don't get me started on the crap I went through learning the stupid circle of 5ths and its antimatter counterpart the circle of 4ths.
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Re: Happy birthday MIDI!

Postby curteye » Mon Aug 19, 2013 8:10 pm

Aloha guys, just to chime in

IMHO MIDI:
A digital piano roll.

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Re: Happy birthday MIDI!

Postby JMCecil » Mon Aug 19, 2013 8:13 pm

curteye wrote:IMHO MIDI:
A digital piano roll.

Yep, I've said that as recently as today in another post. But, it's a digital player piano with about 28409871263809437 additional things to play besides the note.
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Re: Happy birthday MIDI!

Postby knuckle47 » Tue Aug 20, 2013 2:10 am

Wow...made me think a bit...As a kid we had a player piano. I used to stick those paper rolls into the player and watch thousands of those slots pass over the bar and trigger the keys. Long before midi, I think I had figured out that these rolls were multi-tracked. How could one guy play all of those keys at one time ;)
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Re: Happy birthday MIDI!

Postby mbr » Tue Aug 20, 2013 2:18 am

....30 years....


i'm getting old :o


anyway > happy birthday !!

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Re: Happy birthday MIDI!

Postby G-string » Tue Aug 20, 2013 7:13 am

one sentence sums midi up ..........." midi changed my life for every "
I love you midi , i bless the day I found you now just release V2 you old git :lol: :lol: HAPPY BIRTHDAY
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Re: Happy birthday MIDI!

Postby BriHar » Tue Aug 20, 2013 9:32 am

I remember the introduction of MIDI with a lot of headaches.
MIDI hubs, thru boxes, had to be self or custom made at first.
PC keyboards also used the same 5 pin DIN plug and you had to be careful they didn't sell you a KB extention cable instead of a midi cable - although some would in fact work if they were fully wired.
But all in all, the system worked, and that made it worthwhile.
I think I still have some of the original brochures from an early MIDI seminar from Roland or Yamaha.
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Re: Happy birthday MIDI!

Postby JMCecil » Tue Aug 20, 2013 3:07 pm

Steve Fogal wrote:
knuckle47 wrote:Wow...made me think a bit...As a kid we had a player piano. I used to stick those paper rolls into the player and watch thousands of those slots pass over the bar and trigger the keys. Long before midi, I think I had figured out that these rolls were multi-tracked. How could one guy play all of those keys at one time ;)


I've always thought of Midi as like a player piano. I wonder how long ago those came about :?: I'm sure Midi must have rose from that concept...so in a way, it could be that Midi, conceptually is much older than 30 years. And long before that, there were 'Music Boxes' :idea:

Player Pianos started in the 1800s. But, if you use the concept of how they work, music boxes go WAAAAAAAY back.
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Re: Happy birthday MIDI!

Postby BriHar » Tue Aug 20, 2013 3:22 pm

First program I ever wrote (using punch cards!) I still have to this day in the form of an inch wide pink strip of hole punched tape.
Of course I've nothing to run it on now...
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Re: Happy birthday MIDI!

Postby surfer » Tue Aug 20, 2013 3:53 pm

I wrote Fortran II on punch cards for an IBM 360. Didn't keep the cards. Never been much for keepsakes. Kind of regret that now. Until I see my wife's life mementos packing every closet, under the beds, the garage and every other cubic inch of available space. Opposites attract. I'm a minimalist and she's a hoarder. Aargh!
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Re: Happy birthday MIDI!

Postby knuckle47 » Tue Aug 20, 2013 5:41 pm

That's funny...My wife and I are the opposite. I'm a hoarder...she throws out everything. What's worse is that I may keep something for years in the garage...She eventually wears me down to toss it. Two weeks later....I NEED IT!

I feel bad for my kids....one day they will be going through all this crap and thinking " geez, what the hell was he saving this for ?" It will all wind up in a dumpster
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Re: Happy birthday MIDI!

Postby Mr M » Tue Aug 20, 2013 6:11 pm

Midi is an amazing technology when you consider it's age and that it still is a fundamental workhorse 30 years later. I've just completed a move including studio from a place I'd lived in for 34 years. With 12 hardware synths and 2 midi interfaces I must have 50 midi cables. If wireless midi ever becomes practical, that would be for me.

As far as holding onto old things ,I've had to make some big decisions in the last few days ,ex. I kept every box that software came in . I'd recommend that everyone periodically go thru and dump what you really don't need or better yet sell it. I found buyers for a Commodore Vic 20,Atari 520 St, roll and tuck Kustom 2x12 guitar cabinet,etc. It's reall cathartic to get rid of stuff you never use
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Re: Happy birthday MIDI!

Postby curteye » Wed Aug 21, 2013 2:26 am

Mr M wrote:I've just completed a move including studio from a place I'd lived in for 34 years.


Aloha M, and congrats.
Hope you are happy in your new digs and if you are,
that you live there for at least another 34 years.

Re MIDI:
In the early 70's I would stand on stage playing my guitar and imagine to myself;
Now the 'A' string is a trombone and
the high E' string is a trumpet and
the 'D' string is an Alto etc etc etc etc.

Twenty years later in the early 90's that dream became a reality
with the Roland GR50. I have since become a 'MIDI guitarist.
I am proud of that fact. Thank you MIDI. (and Warren Sirota)
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Re: Happy birthday MIDI!

Postby monsterjazzlicks » Wed Aug 21, 2013 2:47 am

August 1983 !! WOW............ :o

So was the YAMAHA DX7 the very first synth to offer Midi spec ?? i don't think the Synclavier, Prophet 5, or Roland Jupiter offered it ??
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Re: Happy birthday MIDI!

Postby Mr M » Wed Aug 21, 2013 6:56 am

curteye wrote:
Mr M wrote:I've just completed a move including studio from a place I'd lived in for 34 years.


Aloha M, and congrats.
Hope you are happy in your new digs and if you are,
that you live there for at least another 34 years.

Re MIDI:
In the early 70's I would stand on stage playing my guitar and imagine to myself;
Now the 'A' string is a trombone and
the high E' string is a trumpet and
the 'D' string is an Alto etc etc etc etc.

Twenty years later in the early 90's that dream became a reality
with the Roland GR50. I have since become a 'MIDI guitarist.
I am proud of that fact. Thank you MIDI. (and Warren Sirota)
{'-'}


Thanks! Plan to stay in the new digs for 1 year than get a better place. As part of the whole shakeup ,I got some guitars I have professionally setup to possibly sell. I never had a guitar setup in a shop before. They did a great job and the playing is great ,but to the point ,I had my Casio midi guitar (real wood Strat) fixed and it tracking is now damned close to my Axon pickup.

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Re: Happy birthday MIDI!

Postby BriHar » Wed Aug 21, 2013 8:23 am

monsterjazzlicks wrote:August 1983 !! WOW............ :o

So was the YAMAHA DX7 the very first synth to offer Midi spec ?? i don't think the Synclavier, Prophet 5, or Roland Jupiter offered it ??

The Jupiter 6 and a later model of the prophet were pretty much the first, the DX7 came quickly thereafter.
The keyboard player in our band back then had a Prophet 5 series 1, it was amazing at the time, but had major problems with overheating, which pretty much screwed it for gigs. We actually got in communication with Dave Smith and had it sent down for repair, but it didn't help much, I added a large heat sink to it but the problems persisted and he eventually got rid of it.
The DX7 was the first MIDI capable synth we got.
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Re: Happy birthday MIDI!

Postby BriHar » Wed Aug 21, 2013 8:33 am

surfer wrote:I wrote Fortran II on punch cards for an IBM 360. Didn't keep the cards. Never been much for keepsakes. Kind of regret that now. Until I see my wife's life mementos packing every closet, under the beds, the garage and every other cubic inch of available space. Opposites attract. I'm a minimalist and she's a hoarder. Aargh!

Exactly it was Fortran for an IBM 360 (probably all highschools were connected to the same system ;) )
I didn't keep the cards, just the tape which was generated from the cards.
Later in college I worked on a Univac with these huge web-frame core memories.
Late in the '70,s - early 80's I built a 6503 based microcomputer to control my Modular Synth interface. Exactly the same microcontroller that Larry Fast used on "Computer Experiments Vol.1". Didn't have MIDI though, but I've still got it and use it - still have to program it in hex machine code and save and load the programs on cassette tape :lol:
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