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Re: Steinberg's dongle alternative coming

Postby Makumbaria » Sat Dec 28, 2013 12:44 am

Brandy wrote:
At least it would be cool if users of the "big" Cubase/Nuendo versions could have some kind of "dongle free" licence for using Cubase LE or Artist or something like that on the laptop.. Maybe I will try to dig into Logic some more, using that on the Laptop (Macbook Pro) ... ?!


I have a license for Cubase AI 7 (from Steinberg CMC-series) for this kind of scenario.
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Re: Steinberg's dongle alternative coming

Postby Brandy » Sat Dec 28, 2013 12:49 am

Yea, often a "simple" Cubase version would be fine for "some" recording on the road/live.. Usually I just need the option to record 8-16 tracks to hd, doing some basic editing and some very basic rough mixing.. As I said - I used Garage Band in that situation, but I never had that app open bevore - it was a PITA setting everyting up for recording in that situation (had templates and in/out presets for Cubase)
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Re: Steinberg's dongle alternative coming

Postby Brad Mize » Sat Dec 28, 2013 9:41 pm

I have a desktop PC that I keep the dongle in when I'm at home. Not a problem there. But I also have a laptop that I'd like to incorporate for live use. I don't need to be able to run Cubase live. I'm just beginning to learn Cantabile and have several VSTi's that require a dongle. HALion Sonic 2, PadShop Pro, Retrologue, not to mention my Korg Legacy series, all my Arturia VSTs, and so on. I hate the thought that I take my laptop out and lose the dongle. I've been using the same dongle since Cubase SX. I recently bought the Absolute VST Collection (which came with another dongle - shorter than my original). That would force me to get SB to authorize my new dongle - and the other manufacturers as well - and would be more of a PITA then anything. If I remember correctly, all my software that uses the dongle are stored in the LCC, so it would just be a matter of me telling the LCC to load the licenses up to my blank dongle. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.

I also have a wireless mouse that uses the short, stubby USB thingie. If SB would/could go to something like that, I'd be happy with that compromise. I'm just scared to death it would get broken using it live on stage - even if I use a USB extension cable to get it away from directly sticking out of my laptop. Here's to what the future holds. I'm sure good things are on the horizon. Now to update to 7.5 ... lol
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Re: Steinberg's dongle alternative coming

Postby Buchanan » Sun Dec 29, 2013 1:14 am

On the "Lost eLicenser" thread it is mentioned that at present on new boxed versions sold with a dongle they do a 24 hour temporary license and one can get something similar on dongle loss. I don't know if they do it already or have it planned but it might be useful requesting that one could temporarily "arm" (via your legit dongle) a laptop for use on locations for 24 hrs or so. Just a thought.
You would need a spare dongle.
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Re: Steinberg's dongle alternative coming

Postby Makumbaria » Sun Dec 29, 2013 2:05 am

Buchanan wrote:On the "Lost eLicenser" thread it is mentioned that at present on new boxed versions sold with a dongle they do a 24 hour temporary license and one can get something similar on dongle loss. I don't know if they do it already or have it planned but it might be useful requesting that one could temporarily "arm" (via your legit dongle) a laptop for use on locations for 24 hrs or so. Just a thought.
You would need a spare dongle.
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Yes, my Cubase 6 also came with the (25 hour) demo. It is not a new procedure.
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Re: Steinberg's dongle alternative coming

Postby forthwith » Sun Dec 29, 2013 7:32 am

Makumbaria wrote:Yes, my Cubase 6 also came with the (25 hour) demo. It is not a new procedure.


Is there a demo of Cubase 7?
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Re: Steinberg's dongle alternative coming

Postby Buchanan » Sun Dec 29, 2013 5:07 pm

forthwith wrote:
Makumbaria wrote:Yes, my Cubase 6 also came with the (25 hour) demo. It is not a new procedure.


Is there a demo of Cubase 7?


Not sure yet. If it's not already there then it's imminent.
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Re: Steinberg's dongle alternative coming

Postby forthwith » Sun Dec 29, 2013 5:12 pm

forthwith wrote:Is there a demo of Cubase 7?


Not sure yet. If it's not already there then it's imminent.[/quote]

Now would be timely considering there are new features included with 7.5.
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Re: Steinberg's dongle alternative coming

Postby Leonard_A » Mon Jan 06, 2014 6:42 pm

Keep the dongle. Care about your software.
You don't see Cubase out there as cracked version. :-)

Would be nice to upgrade it to a small metal version case so we could
not worry about dropping it.

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Re: Steinberg's dongle alternative coming

Postby Buchanan » Tue Jan 07, 2014 7:18 pm

Leonard_A wrote:Keep the dongle. Care about your software.
You don't see Cubase out there as cracked version. :-)

Would be nice to upgrade it to a small metal version case so we could
not worry about dropping it.

Cheers


Diamond encrusted dongle for sale. Extremely losable (apparently) so knock down price. Makes keyring look classy. Offers.

No worry about dropping it?! I'm sure there are examples on YouTube but these and similar dongles can be nuked and they still work.
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Re: Steinberg's dongle alternative coming

Postby C.LYDE101 » Sun Jan 12, 2014 7:42 am

UVI Listens, iLok Dongle No Longer Required

http://www.synthtopia.com/content/2014/ ... -required/
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Re: Steinberg's dongle alternative coming

Postby Reiknir » Sun Jan 12, 2014 11:50 am

C.LYDE101 wrote:UVI Listens, iLok Dongle No Longer Required

http://www.synthtopia.com/content/2014/ ... -required/


And replace it with the iLok software authorisation system that is a) seriously anal, b) requires an internet connection & c) only allow you to install one instance of the license. But apart from that nice to see iLok copy the eLicenser system down to a tee
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Re: Steinberg's dongle alternative coming

Postby C.LYDE101 » Sun Jan 12, 2014 12:01 pm

Not as anal as usb dongle on laptop... once-off connection, and you're sorted. The point being that UVI knows what affects the bottom line, paying user's going elsewhere.
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Re: Steinberg's dongle alternative coming

Postby Brandy » Sun Jan 12, 2014 6:21 pm

what I really like on the ilok thing (after I disliked that whole PACE thing a long time) is:

- I just have ONE iLok for hundreds of licenses.
--> would be cool to NOT have to carry additional elicencers with me

- lately there is a great zero-downtime feature as well as "lost and theft" option
--> last time I had an error with the elicencer it was no problem BUT it was over the weekend and I had to wait 2 days till Steinberg support was able to provide me temp-licences.. Fortunately it was only the Cubase elicencer and I use Nuendo in the studio...
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Re: Steinberg's dongle alternative coming

Postby Reiknir » Thu Jan 16, 2014 5:48 pm

C.LYDE101 wrote:Not as anal as usb dongle on laptop... once-off connection, and you're sorted. The point being that UVI knows what affects the bottom line, paying user's going elsewhere.


In some case they may, but they loose customers like myself that need to use more than one computer, it is a question of functionality.

Besides having a dongle on my laptop is a minor inconvenience, not a major show stopper, which is what always makes me wonder about those anti dongle posts .... when evaluating some piece of software the minor inconvenience becomes a major factor in peoples purchase decisions over and above functionality?

Imagine if you were a tradesman in something other than music and would refuse to do certain jobs or service certain equipment because you do not like the dongle that came with the software. How impressed would your customers be?
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Re: Steinberg's dongle alternative coming

Postby Reiknir » Thu Jan 16, 2014 5:53 pm

Brandy wrote:what I really like on the ilok thing (after I disliked that whole PACE thing a long time) is:

- I just have ONE iLok for hundreds of licenses.
--> would be cool to NOT have to carry additional elicencers with me

You do realise that as many plug in developers use the Steinberg key as do use iLok so "one key, many software licenses" argument is not valid that way (some offer both, and some call their key something else, but they are eLicensers), more application developers use iLok because they do not want to shuffle money and business info to one of their competitors.
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Re: Steinberg's dongle alternative coming

Postby Brandy » Thu Jan 16, 2014 6:02 pm

Reiknir wrote:
Brandy wrote:what I really like on the ilok thing (after I disliked that whole PACE thing a long time) is:

- I just have ONE iLok for hundreds of licenses.
--> would be cool to NOT have to carry additional elicencers with me

You do realise that as many plug in developers use the Steinberg key as do use iLok so "one key, many software licenses" argument is not valid that way (some offer both, and some call their key something else, but they are eLicensers), more application developers use iLok because they do not want to shuffle money and business info to one of their competitors.


I do not have (exept Halion and Wavelab) any other software running on the elicencer...

On iLok I have about 130 Licences.
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Re: Steinberg's dongle alternative coming

Postby SteveInChicago » Thu Jan 16, 2014 6:20 pm

I just had the experience that makes the dongle feel warm and fuzzy. I had an HD crash, and restored from my backup. (4 hours) I plugged in the dongle and went right back to work. No worries about that moment being the very moment the license server goes down for a day, which can happen to any company. (My soft-elicenses did need to be reauthorized, which did work fine.)

Not making a case here against a service like the backup license scheme ilok 2 offers, but man, if I was using that instead of a dongle, and had had that crash a couple weeks ago when the SB authorization server was down, what a drag it would have been.
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Re: Steinberg's dongle alternative coming

Postby distante » Sun Jan 19, 2014 6:43 am

For long time I didn't use any waves plugin for the ilok thing (I don't have one, I don't want one)

But now that you can install your licences in any standart Usb drive I considering buy some plugs from them...
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