Steve Fogal wrote:Instead, I open my mind up to let whatever comes in on it's own naturally.
NWP wrote:The point Steve seems to completely miss is that you need to have the tools in your toolbox to be able to use them at will.
Steve Fogal wrote:Nowhere did I say that one shouldn't learn the modal scales, or anything else for that matter ....
monsterjazzlicks wrote:Hi NWP,
You MUST have some theoretical understanding of theory (whether it be Jazz/Classical/Indian/Arabic........or whatever) in order to create.
The distinction between the most common two types of musician is that some people need LOTS of tuition and studying (ie. those who go to music college), and people who have (say) 6 x months tuition and can (for instance) be shown a simple '12 Bar Blues' progression and then they advance and advance at an incredible rate, and get so much milage out of a short amount of tuition and snippet of theory. Most of us are the former and of course the very talented and gifted are the latter.
monsterjazzlicks wrote: And many of these have zero formal training at all (like The Beatles, Jimi Hendrix, Charlie Parker, Chet Baker, etc etc).
papi61 wrote:monsterjazzlicks wrote: And many of these have zero formal training at all (like The Beatles, Jimi Hendrix, Charlie Parker, Chet Baker, etc etc).
The above can be a bit misleading. Although the above-mentioned artists did not go to music school, they definitely self-taught theory and composition. Parker spent a lot of his spare time analyzing Bach (by his own admission), and the Beatles (well, at least John and Paul...) did the same with classic musical theater. Chet Baker was a huge fan of Bill Evans --among others-- and he had studied him so deeply, he knew many of his solos by heart (and sometimes would play them on his trumpet for his friends. I'm lucky enough to have witnessed such thing.
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