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Postby eddiemacarthur » Mon Dec 02, 2013 7:45 pm

ach, xmas is coming and it will give me some new toy to play with! will install on home laptop for testing/learning, but leave studio installation 7.06 alone... ordered boxed upgrade today. :)
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Re: got my order in for 7.5

Postby kzarider » Mon Dec 02, 2013 7:58 pm

Can't wait to hear about your testing, please give a full review of pro and cons :) I have 7.06 working great and I'm afraid to upgrade because of prior C7 issues lol
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Re: got my order in for 7.5

Postby eddiemacarthur » Mon Dec 02, 2013 10:33 pm

yes, I won't put it on my studio pc because I need that to be reliable. putting it on the laptop at home means I can get used to it over a few weeks and await the inevitable update patches in safety. I think the upgrade price is reasonable for what is new and the workflow enhancements. got it ordered from absolute music solutions for £42.50 including postage from one end of uk (Bournemouth) to top end (Glasgow).
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Re: got my order in for 7.5

Postby gspot247 » Mon Dec 02, 2013 11:53 pm

Im thinking of upgrading from 7.06, I will be interested in what u think of the new 7.5....not a bad price either £42.50 :mrgreen:
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Re: got my order in for 7.5

Postby papi61 » Tue Dec 03, 2013 12:33 am

Maybe my brain is already fried, but I seem to remember that when I upgraded from 6 to 6.5, the latter did not overwrite the former and I had both versions on my computer. So maybe the relationship between 7 and 7.5 will be the same?
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Re: got my order in for 7.5

Postby papi61 » Tue Dec 03, 2013 12:39 am

gspot247 wrote:Im thinking of upgrading from 7.06, I will be interested in what u think of the new 7.5....not a bad price either £42.50 :mrgreen:


49.99 euros
42.50 pounds
49.99 US dollars

Of course I like that we Americans have to pay less (50 euros is almost $70 and 42.50 pounds is about the same amount in USD), but I can't help thinking it's not really fair... :lol:
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Re: got my order in for 7.5

Postby eddiemacarthur » Tue Dec 03, 2013 12:49 am

American pay less because we are trying to help our backwards cousins! ;-) (just a joke). the real reason is that in the UK we are always ripped off with higher taxes... Ed
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Re: got my order in for 7.5

Postby papi61 » Tue Dec 03, 2013 12:55 am

eddiemacarthur wrote:American pay less because we are trying to help our backwards cousins! ;-) (just a joke). the real reason is that in the UK we are always ripped off with higher taxes... Ed


It largely depends on where you live in the US. Here in CA (but also in NY, WA, HI etc.) our taxes are just as high as in western Europe, with property taxes actually being even higher. The real problem is that while Europeans get something back from their government (low-cost education, health care etc.), we get almost nothing, at least compared to what we spend. But I agree that businesses pay less taxes here. Or none at all, in some cases...
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Re: got my order in for 7.5

Postby curteye » Tue Dec 03, 2013 1:09 am

Can't seem to pre-order from here yet.
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Re: got my order in for 7.5

Postby knuckle47 » Tue Dec 03, 2013 3:50 am

My problem as well for for the last 3 days....
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Re: got my order in for 7.5

Postby kzarider » Tue Dec 03, 2013 4:49 am

papi61 wrote:
eddiemacarthur wrote:American pay less because we are trying to help our backwards cousins! ;-) (just a joke). the real reason is that in the UK we are always ripped off with higher taxes... Ed


It largely depends on where you live in the US. Here in CA (but also in NY, WA, HI etc.) our taxes are just as high as in western Europe, with property taxes actually being even higher. The real problem is that while Europeans get something back from their government (low-cost education, health care etc.), we get almost nothing, at least compared to what we spend. But I agree that businesses pay less taxes here. Or none at all, in some cases...

Can you actually by an update in USA from a store like Sweetwater or Gtr Center? I always thought updates in the .5 variety were online only.

I would prefer if possible to get it from my vendors, its only right to support them in anyway possible!

Oh and can you please share a definition for "Backwards Cousin" I've never heard this said in USA
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Re: got my order in for 7.5

Postby curteye » Tue Dec 03, 2013 5:15 am

kzarider wrote:I would prefer if possible to get it from my vendors, its only right to support them in anyway possible!


After reading this I had to rethink.

Steiny has made it soooo easy to just get stuff on-line
that i don't even think about it anymore.

I now just order it.

Getting a version of software from vendors might not be as convenient
as getting it from Steiny but it does seem to be the 'right thing to do'

But is this just 'old guy old school' thinking?

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Re: got my order in for 7.5

Postby kzarider » Tue Dec 03, 2013 6:17 am

But is this just 'old guy old school' thinking?

I resemble that remark!!!
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Re: got my order in for 7.5

Postby eddiemacarthur » Tue Dec 03, 2013 10:00 am

I bought some of the last updates from Steinberg as download and didn't like the hassle with ask.net only storing files for a short time (yes, I do normally keep a backup but I had a particular issue at the time). so I went for boxed version for Cubase 7 and now 7.5. p.s. backwards cousins was simply a comedic reference to our historical domination of the colonies. nothing to get worried about! Ed
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Re: got my order in for 7.5

Postby papi61 » Tue Dec 03, 2013 11:00 am

kzarider wrote:Can you actually by an update in USA from a store like Sweetwater or Gtr Center? I always thought updates in the .5 variety were online only.
I don't believe you can buy such an update from music stores.

Oh and can you please share a definition for "Backwards Cousin" I've never heard this said in USA


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Re: got my order in for 7.5

Postby sonicstate » Tue Dec 03, 2013 1:50 pm

BTW, Why is it cheaper for America. Shouldn't it be opposite, cheaper here in Europe and more expensive in America?
In opposite, American things are cheaper there, and more expensive here. I don't get it why Americans pay less for the same product. Any ideas?
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Re: got my order in for 7.5

Postby eddiemacarthur » Tue Dec 03, 2013 2:34 pm

don't know. Scotch Whisky made in Scotland is apparently cheaper to buy in USA and Europe than in Scotland, because of alcohol taxes!
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Re: got my order in for 7.5

Postby Helge Vogt » Tue Dec 03, 2013 2:39 pm

kzarider wrote:Can you actually by an update in USA from a store like Sweetwater or Gtr Center? I always thought updates in the .5 variety were online only.

I would prefer if possible to get it from my vendors, its only right to support them in anyway possible!


Hi all,

The 7.5 update will be available from December 4, 2013, from Steinberg dealers worldwide as a boxed version and in the Steinberg Online Shop as a download version. While the boxed update includes 3.5 GB content and requires a 500 MB application installer download, the download update version available through the Steinberg Online Shop requires the download of the content as well as the application installer (4 GB download). The Cubase Artist 7.5 Update is available as a 4 GB download only.

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Re: got my order in for 7.5

Postby BriHar » Tue Dec 03, 2013 4:26 pm

Seeing as how there's still no printed manual, I'll probably go for the download this time. ;)
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Re: got my order in for 7.5

Postby monsterjazzlicks » Tue Dec 03, 2013 10:17 pm

BriHar wrote:Seeing as how there's still no printed manual, I'll probably go for the download this time. ;)


Yes, i would really kill for a paper manual to !!

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Re: got my order in for 7.5

Postby kzarider » Wed Dec 04, 2013 12:44 am

sonicstate wrote:BTW, Why is it cheaper for America. Shouldn't it be opposite, cheaper here in Europe and more expensive in America?
In opposite, American things are cheaper there, and more expensive here. I don't get it why Americans pay less for the same product. Any ideas?

Um because my health insurance/out of pocket costs were $13,000 last year? How much was yours? Because your tax rate is higher? Because of Capitalist rules of supply and demand and what market value is in any given area. I could continue but the point is every market is different. I am guessing here, as I am no economist, that the companies that sell product make higher return off product at lower price point in USA than in Europe.

So I am sorry you pay more and I am sorry that we make less and pay more for essential services
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Re: got my order in for 7.5

Postby monsterjazzlicks » Wed Dec 04, 2013 1:43 am

Sat up until gone midnight but then read I have to wait another 14 x hours !! :cry:

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Re: got my order in for 7.5

Postby Oedipus Driftpunch » Wed Dec 04, 2013 2:10 am

kzarider wrote:
sonicstate wrote:BTW, Why is it cheaper for America. Shouldn't it be opposite, cheaper here in Europe and more expensive in America?
In opposite, American things are cheaper there, and more expensive here. I don't get it why Americans pay less for the same product. Any ideas?

Um because my health insurance/out of pocket costs were $13,000 last year? How much was yours? Because your tax rate is higher? Because of Capitalist rules of supply and demand and what market value is in any given area. I could continue but the point is every market is different. I am guessing here, as I am no economist, that the companies that sell product make higher return off product at lower price point in USA than in Europe.

So I am sorry you pay more and I am sorry that we make less and pay more for essential services


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Re: got my order in for 7.5

Postby jaslan » Wed Dec 04, 2013 4:15 am

sonicstate wrote:BTW, Why is it cheaper for America. Shouldn't it be opposite, cheaper here in Europe and more expensive in America?
In opposite, American things are cheaper there, and more expensive here. I don't get it why Americans pay less for the same product. Any ideas?

So many factors... In some cases it can be as simple as a lower demand driving prices down. It could be tarrifs, trade agreements, corporate taxes, etc. In some countries the cost of doing business is just higher due to regulations and legal procedures, etc.

papi61 wrote:Of course I like that we Americans have to pay less (50 euros is almost $70 and 42.50 pounds is about the same amount in USD), but I can't help thinking it's not really fair... :lol:

Different countries have different social entitlements such as maternity leave, health care, retirement pensions. You can't just look at the price alone. You have to look at the entire economic picture.

Bottom line is that things cost different amounts in different areas for different reasons. Look at cable TV and internet service. Prices can vary quite a lot between areas only a few miles apart.
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Re: got my order in for 7.5

Postby papi61 » Wed Dec 04, 2013 6:00 am

jaslan wrote: Look at cable TV and internet service.


We Americans pay for internet more than any developed country and yet we get third-world speeds (pretty much like health care: we pay up the wazoo and we get very little in return.) It's because there is no free market here. In reality there are a few conglomerates that collude to fix the prices and divide up the territory. In Korea or Japan, you can get 100 mbps for as little as $25/mo. Here in the US, the average price for internet cable is $50/mo. for an average of 10-15 mbps.

The joy of out-of-control capitalism... :?
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