Doctors can be wrong !

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Re: Doctors can be wrong !

Postby knuckle47 » Wed Dec 11, 2013 3:50 am

G-string, great news...was your original diagnosis neurological in nature or did your doctor fail to identify plugged ear canals? Regardless, glad to know your better off now. "...you don't know what you've got til it's gone"
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Re: Doctors can be wrong !

Postby Prock » Wed Dec 11, 2013 4:27 am

mozizo wrote:
Doctor gave a man 6 months to live.
- When the man said he couldn't pay his Doctor bill, the Doctor gave him 6 more months. :lol:


:lol: :lol: a good one


Funny... :lol:
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Re: Doctors can be wrong !

Postby JMCecil » Wed Dec 11, 2013 4:41 am

Buchanan wrote:
jamusic wrote:Brings to mind one more:

I rushed in and asked, "Doctor Doctor, what's wrong with me?"

He answered, "Well......you're obviously an idiot!"

I paused for a moment and then suggested, "Hmmm...Perhaps I should get a second opinion."

He replied, "Very well then.

You're f.u.c.k.i.n' ugly too!!"
:lol:


This is confiscated. Small niggle of mine. Musicians advising everyone to get earplugs. My view is that why cripple your ears while they are working as they should. Let them cripple normally. If you're going to go deaf you will and if not, you're not. There's exceptions like factories with constant 112dbs for 10 hours a day but music? You take breaks, there's quiet bits, you talk to each other a bit in rehearsal. Real life. Let life put the earplugs in LATER. Wax, cilia damage whatever. The only musician of note who went deaf was Beethoven and they keep shoving him in your face whenever they want to sell earplugs. Who else...? I ask. Answer "DUH!"

uhh ... replace musicians advise with doctors advise and you'll be more accurate. My take is I'll listen to hearing specialists over random forum poster on an audio forum. It's a medical fact that even short duration, high volume noise can have long term affect on hearing. Like everything biological, your genetics will determine how much and to what level it will affect you, but it will affect you.
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Re: Doctors can be wrong !

Postby Prock » Wed Dec 11, 2013 5:39 am

Buchanan wrote:This is confiscated. Small niggle of mine. Musicians advising everyone to get earplugs. My view is that why cripple your ears while they are working as they should. Let them cripple normally. If you're going to go deaf you will and if not, you're not. There's exceptions like factories with constant 112dbs for 10 hours a day but music? You take breaks, there's quiet bits, you talk to each other a bit in rehearsal. Real life. Let life put the earplugs in LATER. Wax, cilia damage whatever. The only musician of note who went deaf was Beethoven and they keep shoving him in your face whenever they want to sell earplugs. Who else...? I ask. Answer "DUH!"


I'll bet Pete Townshend wishes he wore some earplugs...
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Re: Doctors can be wrong !

Postby NorthWood MediaWorks » Wed Dec 11, 2013 12:17 pm

Congrats G-String, hope it lasts. I have diminishing hearing, its going slowly currently but my sister and mother both wear hearing aids, that makes me nervous....
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Re: Doctors can be wrong !

Postby Buchanan » Wed Dec 11, 2013 4:40 pm

NorthWood MediaWorks wrote:Congrats G-String, hope it lasts. I have diminishing hearing, its going slowly currently but my sister and mother both wear hearing aids, that makes me nervous....


Unfortunately that's much more likely to be genetic.

Yep Pete Townsend, John Entwhistle and erm.... well some more. But those guys did play on festival stages where, at back of the PA speakers it did recommend BIG ear defenders. I played one festival where the first note blew my HAIR forwards and rendered me effectively deaf for the gig (drum monitor in effect a sizeable full PA good enough for large clubs). For the people I work with generally we work nowhere near that length of exposure or that volume loudness. Madness in those days. BUT for all of us the levels of deafness are pretty much in line with all our mates and families in any other industry.
I'm certainly not sure about this but I suspect that a large amount of ear damage is/can be done by infections from dirty ear defenders. Doctors change their minds every ten years about what's good for us (cigarettes used to be recommended for asthma!). They're pretty good but real life is often much more reliable as a guide.
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Re: Doctors can be wrong !

Postby HowlingUlf » Wed Dec 11, 2013 4:50 pm

There is nothing better that pulling out the earplugs after a concert or rehearsal! 8-)
The sonic rainbow of reality is back and your ears are not hurting and hissing.
You can buy those expensive little bastards from the pharmacy connected with a string.
You plug them in and pull them out a little until you have the perfect blend of protection and loud music.
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Re: Doctors can be wrong !

Postby knuckle47 » Thu Dec 12, 2013 5:08 am

The aging process alone will rob us of a percentage of our hearing by genetics alone. Trauma to the mechanical processes of the middle ear or sensory-neural components of the inner ear can accelerate the event. Documented studies have repeatedly shown clear evidence of this. In an audiogram, a precipitous drop around 4kHz is text book classic sign of noise exposure. It's higher frequencies that help provide clues to speech discrimination

The temporary threshold shift that occurs a few hours after exposure may gradually return to normal but again can elicit periods of tinnitus. Ever put your head on a pillow at night and you just hear tones or white noise? Repeated shifts can cause further damage and bring about speech discrimination issues. " I can hear it, but I can't understand what was said"....unlike frequency adjustment in gain, nothing really improves those conditions. Mix this in with some mild background noise from a restaurant or bar and you have some very frustrating situations for this person. Even digital hearing aids are only that. AIDS and Not your own ears. If you do need this route, consider the fact that your hearing is binaural....one hearing aid cannot do that, you'll need one for each ear for the all important speech discrimination

It just sucks getting old....told to me by my dr. Also about my age

It may look odd but I wear earplugs or sound muffs in anything above ambient noise levels
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Re: Doctors can be wrong !

Postby jamusic » Mon Dec 16, 2013 7:41 am

Buchanan wrote:
...This is confiscated. Small niggle of mine...


Yes - I openly & honestly admit that I am not the original one who made up this joke.

[Kind of why I said that these 2 jokes came to mind.]

The first time I heard it was on the TV show M.A.S.H 4077th by Hawkeye.

And the other one I believe was by Henny Young [or Youngman].

An older man known for lot's of one-liners who held a violin, although I'm not sure he ever played it at all - at least not that I ever heard or saw.

I'm willing to bet that most jokes are recycled over & over again.

Most common example I can think of is Jay Leno using the 'not being able to find 3 wise men & a virgin' in L. A.' every single year at Christmas time.
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Re: Doctors can be wrong !

Postby andyath » Mon Dec 16, 2013 12:19 pm

Good stuff g-string hope your hearing stays improved
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