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Re: Cubase and 4K monitors?

Postby Patanjali » Sun May 25, 2014 11:29 pm

sempondr wrote:Karthik: There is no confirmed details on the model number for now as it is still under testing, so officially I cannot comment on this yet but the future cards will support this."

And that they are still at the 'no details' stage this late in HDMI 2.0's availability does not bode well.

Panasonic had a 4K TV with HDMI 2.0 almost immediately the official spec was announced. HDMI 2.0 had been a long time coming, so if the card makers were taking it seriously, they would have been able to put out cards just as quickly.
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Re: Cubase and 4K monitors?

Postby sempondr » Sun May 25, 2014 11:36 pm

Patanjali wrote:Panasonic had a 4K TV with HDMI 2.0 almost immediately the official spec was announced. HDMI 2.0 had been a long time coming, so if the card makers were taking it seriously, they would have been able to put out cards just as quickly.


Oh, and Panasonic also equips their 4K TV's with DisplayPort.
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Re: Cubase and 4K monitors?

Postby Patanjali » Mon May 26, 2014 12:35 am

sempondr wrote:Oh, and Panasonic also equips their 4K TV's with DisplayPort.

They really are the odd one out. Unfortunately, they are targeting enterprises with large screen offerings and don't have the range that suits us with more modest requirements and deskspace!

For example, in Australia, they only have a 65" 4K, whereas the likes of Samsung , Sony and LG have a range of models from 48" up.
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Re: Cubase and 4K monitors?

Postby Indigo » Mon May 26, 2014 9:10 pm

Patanjali wrote:For example, in Australia, they only have a 65" 4K, whereas the likes of Samsung , Sony and LG have a range of models from 48" up.


Personally, I believe the higher picture quality of 4K isn't very obvious unless you have a really big screen, let's say 60" or larger, so IMHO the 48" models don't make much sense (and maybe Australian distributors are wiser than the others...) But 48" models are a lot cheaper and people will buy them just to brag that they have a 4K tv. That is until larger models become more affordable.
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Re: Cubase and 4K monitors?

Postby Patanjali » Tue May 27, 2014 8:27 am

Indigo wrote:Personally, I believe the higher picture quality of 4K isn't very obvious unless you have a really big screen, let's say 60" or larger, so IMHO the 48" models don't make much sense (and maybe Australian distributors are wiser than the others...) But 48" models are a lot cheaper and people will buy them just to brag that they have a 4K tv. That is until larger models become more affordable.

You are entitled to your opinion, but I think it is rather dismissive and a put-down ("maybe Australian distributors are wiser than the others" - WT?) of those who may not want to make your choice!

Habitual watching distance?
It all depends how far from the TV one sits. It may be a bit of 'chicken and the egg' but maybe we don't sit close to normal TVs because we couldn't without noticing the pixels, so if one has set up one's loungeroom with a 'car parking space' between oneself and the TV, then of course only the larger TVs work for 4K.

However, I have always been one to sit closer to a smaller and cheaper TV than sit further away and have to spend twice as much just to get a larger one!

But 4K is the enabler for a converged paradigm, where one can use it for a large monitor pixel space, but also sit a little further back when one wants to enjoy a relatively close and immersive hi-res experience.

The retina myth
I know when Apple used the phrase retina it was supposed to define the maximum pixel density per viewing distance, beyond which it was 'pointless' going denser because most were not supposed to be able to tell the difference.

Well, it seemed to totally ignore that most could see a difference between 300 and 600 dpi when it came to printing, and there were reasons why masters were done on 2400dpi Linotype machines.

My Note 2 (1280x800) was supposedly retina at the 35cm (14") I looked at it, but my Note 3 (1920x1080) makes everything, especially small text, so much clearer at the same distance.

Horses for courses
Now if you want to sit far away enough from a TV that for you 4K will only work on larger ones, then that is your prerogative, but the wide interest in use of TVs as 4K monitors suggests that many are not wanting to accept such limitations.

For sitting at about 70cm (28") from a monitor, a 120cm (48") 4K TV would have pixels only a few % larger than those on my Dell 76cm (30" - 2560x1600), while giving me a perfectly usable (that is, no driveways between the pixels!) TV if I sit at about 1 metre (39").

For using as a monitor, I think the smaller models are far more suitable, and for those doing photography, the various 32" 4K monitors are much closer to photo density.
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Re: Cubase and 4K monitors?

Postby Noufnouf » Tue May 27, 2014 1:43 pm

AOC U2868PQU just release for 550 bucks
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Re: Cubase and 4K monitors?

Postby sempondr » Tue May 27, 2014 3:20 pm

I like to sit back when I'm working, anything less than 50" at 4K will be too small for me. Most likely will go with 55" when they are affordable enough (new Seiki Pro and Vizio models will start shipping this fall).

28" at 4k is just crazy, except maybe for photo editing work.
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Re: Cubase and 4K monitors?

Postby Noufnouf » Tue May 27, 2014 6:32 pm

it's not crazy, most of the new ultrabooks comes with full hd + 13 pouces => smaller ppp than 4k +28p.
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Re: Cubase and 4K monitors?

Postby Patanjali » Wed Jul 09, 2014 2:17 am

Got a Samsung 4K curved TV. Put it at the backend of the desk, put each touchscreen off to the sides, and built a frame to hold the main speakers (on monitor arms), and the subwoofer, PVR and BluRay over the top.

Had to do a few settings changes to get it looking right across all sources, but it is really the centre-piece now!

With Cubase:
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Re: Cubase and 4K monitors?

Postby Strophoid » Wed Jul 09, 2014 8:51 am

Hahaha, ok that's a ridiculously big monitor :D. I'm not sure I could stand sitting in front of that sunbed :p
Looks cool though!
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Re: Cubase and 4K monitors?

Postby Patanjali » Wed Jul 09, 2014 9:25 am

Strophoid wrote:I'm not sure I could stand sitting in front of that sunbed

It actually runs pretty cool - 27C all over vs 35C (bottom) to 45C (top) with a 30". When I had four 30" (500W), I would cook on warm days! Basically this uses about the same power as a 30" but with twice the pixels.

One good thing is that it is not very reflective, only being noticeable on dark backgrounds, and then not much, as can be seen from how little of the flash can be seen. On the other hand, the touchscreens are too reflective. I used to have them together on the desk when it faced the studio to the left of the picture, and one of them would reflect the ceiling light so that it was very difficult to work with. The picture shows them with reflections of the main screen, but at the sitting position, it fortunately can't be seen in them.

And watching upscaled BluRays from just over a metre away is great.

I suspect that their 48" (48HU8500) 4K TVs will be big amongst computer people wanting to converge their TV and monitor to save space.
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Re: Cubase and 4K monitors?

Postby Strophoid » Wed Jul 09, 2014 12:05 pm

I see. Personally I think it's simply too much information at once, I'd end up zooming stuff in just to make it easy on my brain. Or not, never tried it and you're located a bit far from home to try it out ;)
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Re: Cubase and 4K monitors?

Postby Patanjali » Wed Jul 09, 2014 12:31 pm

Strophoid wrote:too much information at once, I'd end up zooming stuff in just to make it easy on my brain

I find there are two types of person when it comes to interacting with information:

a) those who just want only to see the part they are actually interested in.

b) those who want to see the whole information set, so they can go to any part instantly.

Of course, the a)s have a much cheaper monitor setup, while for the b)s there is never enough pixels!


The a)s would never do printed circuit layouts which requires working at an expanded scale across a whole circuit board so that track routes could be planned. I was very good at those! Before cheap computers, they were done on large drawing boards or light tables, as it involved being able to lay tracks to 0.002" accuracy across several inches. With early computer programs on small screens, it was very frustrating because of the constant zooming in and out and panning. Now a couple of 4K monitors would nail it!
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Re: Cubase and 4K monitors?

Postby Patanjali » Sat Jul 19, 2014 7:52 pm

Patanjali wrote:I suspect that their 48" (48HU8500) 4K TVs will be big amongst computer people wanting to converge their TV and monitor to save space.

While checking out the availability of these as a possibility for my wife, the shop where we bought mine said that the 48"s were very popular and tend to sell out quite quickly.
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Re: Cubase and 4K monitors?

Postby SYNC » Sun Jul 20, 2014 2:47 pm

Interesting...I had been seriously considering one huge screen later last year, but ended up buying three 24" wide screen LCD computer monitors to replace my three 17 CRT's instead. Bought them at Fry's Electronics on a great sale for about $150 each.

The issue of bezels have only been a little bothersome with multiple screens, but for me the only thing I ever stretch across is the Arrange Window & Mixer Window, which isn't a full-time experience anyway. I've grown very used to keeping my VSTi's and other smaller windows on their own screen. I think the bezel thing was just a hang-up, I'm completely over it now that I went from three 17" CRT's (squarish screens) to three 24" wide screen LCD's.
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Re: Cubase and 4K monitors?

Postby Patanjali » Sun Jul 20, 2014 5:34 pm

SYNC wrote:Interesting...I had been seriously considering one huge screen later last year, ...

I find that having one large surface gives the most flexibility. I still have a couple of smaller ones (as for a mixconsole or Outlook), but even when I had up to four 30", I still found it awkward at times. On one contract, I could only load MS Access 2003 on one 30" monitor (due to being single-threaded), which, with over a hundred SQL queries to use with MS Word to automatically generate system docs, was tedious in the amount of scrolling I needed to do during design.

I got the 4K for RX3, which I spend a lot of time in, as we really don't use many tracks in Cubase. But it is great to be able to have three wide web browser sessions when researching, with enough height (2160 pixels) to see without too much scrolling. I just find with 1080 or 1200, there isn't much content space left after all the header, menus and other filler that programs and web pages have.
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Re: Cubase and 4K monitors?

Postby SYNC » Mon Jul 21, 2014 3:28 pm

Oh sure, certainly one large screen would be overall better and more convenient and more flexible for even an 'average user' like me, who doesn't have big demands... I'm sure much more so for power users.

Coming from (3) 17" squares to (3) 24" wide screens is a huge improvement, so much that I can now comfortably fit & use the Arrange Window & Mixer Window on one screen, I only occasionally feel the need to stretch them across to another screen....the 'wide screen' aspect is the greatest improvement of all for me.

Actually, things are a little different now that I'm using a separate computer to run all my VSTi's on. Unlike before, I now have only (2) screens on my main DAW, and the 3rd screen is on my dedicated VSTi machine....which can get a little crammed up...but since there's no audio tracks on it, and I only work with one VSTi window at a time anyway, it's not much of an inconvenience. I really see the 3rd screen on the 2nd computer like I did before, since I had always used the 3rd screen on my main DAW as my dedicated VSTi display anyway...but it's way better because of being a larger & much wider screen.

Not soon, but I have been 'considering' buying a 4th screen....I have a choice to consider...either buy another identical 24" and stack them (in two stacks of two) ... or buy a big screen, and use the three other 24" ones around it...but then again, that isn't very symmetrical, and I'd likely just use the two 24" screens on either side, with the big one in center at my desk.
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Re: Cubase and 4K monitors?

Postby Patanjali » Mon Jul 21, 2014 3:55 pm

SYNC wrote:Actually, things are a little different now that I'm using a separate computer to run all my VSTi's on. Unlike before, I now have only (2) screens on my main DAW, and the 3rd screen is on my dedicated VSTi machine....which can get a little crammed up...but since there's no audio tracks on it, and I only work with one VSTi window at a time anyway, it's not much of an inconvenience. I really see the 3rd screen on the 2nd computer like I did before, since I had always used the 3rd screen on my main DAW as my dedicated VSTi display anyway...but it's way better because of being a larger & much wider screen.

Not soon, but I have been 'considering' buying a 4th screen....I have a choice to consider...either buy another identical 24" and stack them (in two stacks of two) ... or buy a big screen, and use the three other 24" ones around it...but then again, that isn't very symmetrical, and I'd likely just use the two 24" screens on either side, with the big one in center at my desk.

You don't have a signature with your equipment listed, so I might be missing the mark here.

If you are using PCs, you can either:

a) Leave your VSTi machine 'headless' (no monitor) and just RDP into it from your main machine as required, or

b) Use one (or more) monitors connected to both machines, and switch video source inputs.

The advantage of the first scenario is that the machine doesn't have to be in the same room, so its noise isn't being added into the room. It also means that it can be pushed harder with some overclocking and fans running at higher speeds.
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Re: Cubase and 4K monitors?

Postby SYNC » Tue Jul 22, 2014 6:05 am

I use PC's, running XP Pro, with older quad core Q9300 CPU's. I most often work with only one machine at a time as a stand-alone, using both simultaneously only when bouncing my VSTi machines virtual instruments audio out (as a stereo sub-mix) over into my main audio DAW machine, where I then work my audio tracks. I have a KVM switch too, 4-port for future expansion. I have lot's of options to experiment with.

I'm actually planing on isolating ALL my PC's away from my desk area, and I'd never track audio (my voice or an acoustic guitar) with more than one machine running.
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Re: Cubase and 4K monitors?

Postby Patanjali » Tue Jul 22, 2014 6:38 am

SYNC wrote:I'm actually planing on isolating ALL my PC's away from my desk area ...

Two emerging Ethernet-based technologies that enable that are:
a) AoIP - Audio over Ethernet, like Dante or Ravenna, combining audio data, control, clock, and even power (by PoE), into single cables
b) PCoIP - basically lossless compression of video plus USB, leaving only a small box driving monitors and USB.

Both allow for:
a) remote servers, including virtualised
b) routable peripherals, including audio interfaces
c) use of cheaper Gigabit Ethernet (GbE) routers and cables
d) simplified wiring
e) dynamic configurations.

All of these are of particular use to studios, as they simplify and unify the wiring, just like VoIP did for building wiring. They could run a few 10GbE (or greater) lines down the building, feeding a 1GbE router in each room, to which all devices there are connected. Any control room could use any studio. Every performer, even in the one studio, could have their own interface, providing inputs and foldback outputs, fed by the room's PoE router.

Currently, PCoIP cards are rare and expensive, but that will change if there is more take-up. Fortunately, it will be helped along by the increasing use of virtualisation by enterprises, which is a huge market compared to audio.
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Re: Cubase and 4K monitors?

Postby SYNC » Wed Jul 23, 2014 2:55 pm

A bit OT, but....

AoIP - Audio over Ethernet, like Dante or Ravenna


I've briefly looked into the technology before & now once again briefly ... looks like fantastical stuff! :)

But for the time being, until I win the lottery, and being this is just a hobby studio here...I thinking more of the poor mans solution :D

I've been considering a much more basic solution of isolating my current PC towers...like, just placing them directly on the other side of a wall in a closet, or inside a huge, more than 5 foot rack I had salvaged, or do both....with appropriate ventilation considered of course. Once the PC towers are isolated from me, I'll then run all my VGA cables to my video monitors, and my audio interface Host cables to my rack of breakout boxes. I plan to have them close enough apart that no extensions to VGA & Host cables will be required. Other considerations & preparations have been made...like power/reset/LED rack I've built that can handle/control up to 4 PC's, ... it has 4 PC power buttons, 4 reset buttons, 8 LED indicators. Each PC interfaced by CAT-5 cable/connectors. A USB DVD RW drive will be connected to my 4-port KVM's USB hub for when I need it, for convenience.

My room should be very silent after that....at that point I may start to actually hear my video monitors!
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Re: Cubase and 4K monitors?

Postby Patanjali » Wed Jul 23, 2014 3:45 pm

SYNC wrote:A bit OT, but....
AoIP - Audio over Ethernet, like Dante or Ravenna

I've briefly looked into the technology before & now once again briefly ... looks like fantastical stuff! :)

But for the time being, until I win the lottery, and being this is just a hobby studio here...I thinking more of the poor mans solution ...

Look at Dante Via, which is software aimed at turning any computer with a legacy audio interface into a Dante device.
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Re: Cubase and 4K monitors?

Postby SYNC » Fri Jul 25, 2014 4:41 am

Dante Via...hmmmm, not a wealth of information but it looks interesting Pat :)

https://www.audinate.com/products/software/dante-via

http://www.audioprointernational.com/ne ... n-q4/07206

I wonder if they intend to compete with Vienna Ensemble Pro :idea:
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Postby Patanjali » Fri Jul 25, 2014 4:55 am

SYNC wrote:I wonder if they intend to compete with Vienna Ensemble Pro

Dante is to hardware what VEP is to software. They both bring Ethernet networking, but work at different layers.
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Re: Cubase and 4K monitors?

Postby Patanjali » Fri Jul 25, 2014 5:19 am

SYNC wrote:Dante Via...hmmmm, not a wealth of information but it looks interesting Pat :)
https://www.audinate.com/products/software/dante-via
http://www.audioprointernational.com/ne ... n-q4/07206

A little back-story that may be interesting.
In January 2014, I emailed a suggestion to Audinate stating:
You have the Dante Virtual Soundcard system host software, but have you
thought about producing Dante client software that would allow a computer
with one or more existing Firewire/USB/PCIe sound devices, each with their
own ASIO drivers, to be unified and controlled by Dante?

The client could even run on the Dante host system, integrating its legacy
devices.

I suspect you are looking at your clients as being the 'big' operators, and
most of your licencees are only producing devices with large I/O arsenals.

However, there is a huge small operator market from the
home/bedroom/hobby/small studio sector that could be on Dante NOW, and
while keeping their current devices, just expand as their requirements ments
grow. This is what AoIP promises.

Many of these people are frustrated that they cannot expand their current
I/O capabilities, either on the local machine or remotely, without having to
replace perfectly functioning hardware.

On 24/01/2014, Aidan Williams, the CTO for Audinate, replied:
Thanks for your suggestion! We are always looking to make Dante more widely
used.

I've passed your email on to our product management and I'm sure it will
help to influence what products and features we work on next.

After I came across Via on 25/06/2014, I replied:
Looks like my idea has become Dante Via?

to which Aidan replied:
As you can imagine, we have been working on Dante Via for long time before the launch last week at Infocommm. Your email (and others like it) gave us confidence that the features we planned to provide in Dante Via would be useful to a wide range of people.

Since Via will not be released until December this year, I have a suspicion that all is not quite the timing Aidan suggests. We are only talking about a Dante protocol wrapper for an ASIO driver here, both of which Audinate have prior experience with, so I would suspect that there would only be a few months for development, if that, and a lot of testing! Do the date maths.

Hmmmm!
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