Control Surface [Poll]

All about Steinberg's Advanced Integration Controller CC121.

Would you be interested in a multi-fader control surface according to the spec below?

Yes.
18
72%
No, I'm satisfied with the thirdparty non-integrated options.
4
16%
No, I think Steinbergs current options are enough.
3
12%
 
Total votes : 25

Control Surface [Poll]

Postby Svenne » Fri Aug 02, 2013 2:03 pm

When I posted this thread:
http://www.steinberg.net/forum/viewtopi ... 30&t=45410
I wasn't aware that members could start polls.

However, it would be interesting to know how many would be interested in a serious control surface with the following specifications (to begin with) manufactured by Steinberg/Yamaha:
a) full integration with Cubase/Nuendo
b) 12 motorized faders (8 for switchable channel banks and 4 fully programmable for ques, sends, masterchannel, etc.)
c) LED scribble strip for all faders.
d) 16x16 knobs and 8x8 buttons programmable matrix for VST/VSTi plugins. (A LED screen would be nice.)
e) Pricerage €2000-2500.

Please feel free to add suggestions for additional features.
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Re: Control Surface [Poll]

Postby Strophoid » Sat Aug 03, 2013 2:06 am

Bit of a worthless poll there, noone is against having more options in any pricerange with any featureset ;).
It'd be too expensive for me to justify the costs, although I'd like to have one. I'd like a Nuage as well so there you go.
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Re: Control Surface [Poll]

Postby Svenne » Sat Aug 03, 2013 9:37 am

Strophoid wrote:Bit of a worthless poll there

Is it? If the development department at Steinberg/Yamaha sees that there is sufficient interest/demand, they might do something about this hole in Steinberg product line (that's how businesses work). One can only hope.

If you can't afford it now, start saving. Saving up €2000-2500 is feasible for most people, in a reasonable amount of time. Saving up €20 000 (or whatever a Nuage console costs) is not.

Even if you can't afford it now. Cast your vote, and start saving. Should Steinberg decide not to make a control surface, you still have your savings and that can only be a good thing, Don't you think?
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Re: Control Surface [Poll]

Postby Strophoid » Sun Aug 04, 2013 3:46 pm

noone is against having more options in any pricerange with any featureset


That's my main point. The only people who could genuinly be uninterested at all are those who already have a controller that's far out of that pricerange like Nuage. Everyone who does not own one yet would at least be slightly interested.

When I say I can't afford it that doesn't mean I don't have the money, but I don't think a controller is worth that much money for what I do.

But as you wish, I'll vote I'd like to see what they can come up with.
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Re: Control Surface [Poll]

Postby Svenne » Fri Aug 23, 2013 11:24 am

C'mon guys. Start voting. Are are there only 3 people out there who would like to see a serious control surface for Cubase/Nuendo?
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Re: Control Surface [Poll]

Postby TheNavigator » Tue Oct 22, 2013 3:50 am

Let me be open here.

I have, more or less, put EUR 2.500,- aside for the one manufacturer who can provide me with a proper control surface of 12 - 16 channels with plugin / channel strip control.

Avid (Artist Control + Mix) almost got it, but I don't want to risk writing off the money one day just because Avid or Steinberg decide not to support their "most valued competitor" anymore... and using Pro Tools is not an option for me, because I have spent lots of money on VST plugins (which Pro Tools doesn't support, so it's basically blacklisted for me).

MCU is not an option, because it's huge (the chassis wastes a lot of space for nothing) and not really innovative anymore.

I'm waiting for MY control surface to come my way and holding my money back.
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Re: Control Surface [Poll]

Postby HarrySound » Sat Oct 26, 2013 10:50 pm

i'm not sure i'd want one at that price.
I'm not a pro, I just fumble my way through music.
I have a CC121 and I do love it.
Personally I think they missed a trick by not allowing us to customse it.
You can of course set the Function buttons....it's just a shame they didn't really expand with this idea to allow shift functions.
I don't even know why those buttons have LEDs behind them :roll:
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Re: Control Surface [Poll]

Postby cmaffia » Tue Oct 29, 2013 12:51 pm

HarrySound wrote:i'm not sure i'd want one at that price.
I'm not a pro, I just fumble my way through music.
I have a CC121 and I do love it.
Personally I think they missed a trick by not allowing us to customse it.
You can of course set the Function buttons....it's just a shame they didn't really expand with this idea to allow shift functions.
I don't even know why those buttons have LEDs behind them :roll:

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Re: Control Surface [Poll]

Postby Lectrosoul » Wed Dec 03, 2014 4:31 am

I'm in the market for a decent controller for cubase 7.. tried the cc121but just a little too limited.. would love yamaha and steinberg to come out with a decent control surface costing max a grand.. something similar to control universal but tighter cubase integration and more up to date.
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Re: Control Surface [Poll]

Postby Svenne » Wed Dec 03, 2014 2:12 pm

Lectrosoul wrote:I'm in the market for a decent controller for cubase 7.. tried the cc121but just a little too limited.. would love yamaha and steinberg to come out with a decent control surface costing max a grand.. something similar to control universal but tighter cubase integration and more up to date.

The Behringer X-TOUCH looks like an interesting and price-worthy option. If they only gets it released!
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Re: Control Surface [Poll]

Postby Lectrosoul » Wed Dec 03, 2014 3:03 pm

Yep it looks interesting alright, but tbh just not a fan of Behringer, although if nothing else pops up in the meantime i may have to check it out.. :)
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Re: Control Surface [Poll]

Postby Leonard_A » Wed Dec 03, 2014 3:43 pm

YES PLEASE.

ALSO:
MCC121 Controlled Keyboard

Check that out:
viewtopic.php?f=209&t=58715

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Re: Control Surface [Poll]

Postby Svenne » Wed Dec 03, 2014 5:17 pm

Leonard_A wrote:YES PLEASE.

ALSO:
MCC121 Controlled Keyboard

Check that out:
viewtopic.php?f=209&t=58715

Thank you

Well, we're talking about a control surface here, not a controller keyboard!
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Re: Control Surface [Poll]

Postby Leonard_A » Wed Dec 03, 2014 10:24 pm

How about both. Yamaha can do it. Easy.
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Re: Control Surface [Poll]

Postby mozizo » Thu Dec 04, 2014 4:34 pm

Svenne wrote:
Lectrosoul wrote:I'm in the market for a decent controller for cubase 7.. tried the cc121but just a little too limited.. would love yamaha and steinberg to come out with a decent control surface costing max a grand.. something similar to control universal but tighter cubase integration and more up to date.

The Behringer X-TOUCH looks like an interesting and price-worthy option. If they only gets it released!
http://www.behringer.com/EN/products/X-TOUCH.aspx

i think you can pre-order it from sweetwater(if u are from USA)..
probably they gonna sell like fresh hot buns on a cold day..
looks pretty nice..
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Re: Control Surface [Poll]

Postby PeppaPig » Sun Apr 05, 2015 1:03 pm

Has anyone tried the nektar panorama p1? The control part of the excellent P4 and P6 without the keyboard.
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Re: Control Surface [Poll]

Postby cubace » Sun Apr 05, 2015 7:55 pm

The thing would be that steinberg/yamaha provided us with a SDK so we could do better integration of the hardware there is already existing. Surely there could be better hardware. But I see it more as a software problem. And steinberg is part of that.
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Re: Control Surface [Poll]

Postby cmaffia » Tue Apr 07, 2015 11:47 am

I don't understand the question as there are already plenty of control surfaces that support Cubase and the rest of the DAW world. For the record, I am plenty happy with how my Tascam DM3200 works with Cubase in the remote layer mode and also as a traditional board when mixing OTB.
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Re: Control Surface [Poll]

Postby Svenne » Tue Apr 07, 2015 9:26 pm

cmaffia wrote:I don't understand the question as there are already plenty of control surfaces that support Cubase

The thing is that Steinberg could make a control surface that is closely integrated with Cubase and it's features. There is no way a generic control surface could accomplish this. Just look at the number of integrated control surfaces Digidesign has released for ProTools.
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Re: Control Surface [Poll]

Postby cmaffia » Wed Apr 08, 2015 6:15 pm

Didn't they do that with Nuage? I would only be interested in a unit that had the beef of my DM3200 but was made by yamaha/steinberg. Anything that ambitious and yet not as expensive as Nuage, would have to go for $3500-$5000 to be worth my time. Anything else would be a step backwards for me.
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Re: Control Surface [Poll]

Postby cmaffia » Fri Apr 10, 2015 5:46 pm

Steinberg also had their Houston Mission Controller - Control Surface.
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