Dark Planet - small differences in HALion 4.5 vs VSTi?

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Dark Planet - small differences in HALion 4.5 vs VSTi?

Postby Bacizone » Thu Feb 14, 2013 6:16 pm

Hi,

I've just bought Dark Planet and went through the presets using HALion 4.5, thinking it should sound the same plus I see the structure of the programs.

However, when I just loaded Dark Planet as a separate VSTi afterward, some of the presets sounds fuller, with more bass in the VSTi version.

Where does this difference come from?

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Re: Dark Planet - small differences in HALion 4.5 vs VSTi?

Postby lebouch » Thu Feb 14, 2013 11:32 pm

Are you using the same ASIO driver for both versions?
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Re: Dark Planet - small differences in HALion 4.5 vs VSTi?

Postby Bacizone » Sat Feb 16, 2013 9:58 pm

Sure, I am using both of them within Cubase 7, both assigned to the same ASIO device (as Cubase does not handle more than one.)

Any idea?

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Re: Dark Planet - small differences in HALion 4.5 vs VSTi?

Postby Matthias Quellmann » Tue Feb 19, 2013 12:14 pm

Hi there,

There should be no differences since it is the same engine. Which presets are you talking about exactly?
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Re: Dark Planet - small differences in HALion 4.5 vs VSTi?

Postby Bacizone » Tue Feb 19, 2013 3:53 pm

Hi,

ohhh, found the problem - on the 26th HALIon 4.5 output a low cut filter of MixConsole left switched on at 100 Hz. :lol:

Sorry for creating noise. :oops:

Dark Planet is amazing stuff.

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Re: Dark Planet - small differences in HALion 4.5 vs VSTi?

Postby Wallengard » Wed Dec 17, 2014 7:29 pm

So what exactly is the advantages of using for example dark planet and the other vsts like hypnotic dance in halion 5 vs just using them as standalone? Will I be able to get into the programming of the sounds in halion as opposed to just being able to tweak what's already there?
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Re: Dark Planet - small differences in HALion 4.5 vs VSTi?

Postby jaslan » Wed Dec 17, 2014 9:18 pm

Wallengard wrote:So what exactly is the advantages of using for example dark planet and the other vsts like hypnotic dance in halion 5 vs just using them as standalone? Will I be able to get into the programming of the sounds in halion as opposed to just being able to tweak what's already there?

The standalone instruments should be a little easier to use but HALion will allow all the editing capabilities.
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Re: Dark Planet - small differences in HALion 4.5 vs VSTi?

Postby Wallengard » Wed Dec 17, 2014 10:27 pm

Would you care to elaborate on what those editing capabilities could look like? Right now I only have a set number or preset knobs I can tweak, anywhere from cutoff to swing, would halion 5 let me edit premade arpeggiators and other stuff on for example trip (which I have in halion sonic 2 se) on a more fundamental level?

The reason I'm asking all these silly questions is that I am having a serious hard time finding info about it online, and I'm only really trying to decide if getting halion 5 is worth it in that aspect of it not just the sampling.

What I really want to be able to do is use dark planet and hypnotic dance for example more like an actual synthesizer rather than just a rompler. Is that even possible?

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Re: Dark Planet - small differences in HALion 4.5 vs VSTi?

Postby jaslan » Thu Dec 18, 2014 12:07 am

Wallengard wrote:Would you care to elaborate on what those editing capabilities could look like? Right now I only have a set number or preset knobs I can tweak, anywhere from cutoff to swing, would halion 5 let me edit premade arpeggiators and other stuff on for example trip (which I have in halion sonic 2 se) on a more fundamental level?

The reason I'm asking all these silly questions is that I am having a serious hard time finding info about it online, and I'm only really trying to decide if getting halion 5 is worth it in that aspect of it not just the sampling.

What I really want to be able to do is use dark planet and hypnotic dance for example more like an actual synthesizer rather than just a rompler. Is that even possible?

Thanks

Just download the H5 trial and try it out. Can't go wrong with that! :D
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Re: Dark Planet - small differences in HALion 4.5 vs VSTi?

Postby Wallengard » Thu Dec 18, 2014 7:24 am

For some reason I had completely missed that, I didn't think it was possible. Now I feel quite stupid. :-)

Thanks a bunch I'll definitely try it!
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