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correct 7.1 channels available in nuendo 6?

Postby Anton » Wed Jan 30, 2013 10:57 am

Hi,

I'd like to know if the dolby corrected 7.1 output is going to (finally) be available in Nuendo 6.
Specifically:

1. Front Left
2 . Front Right
3. Center
4. LFE
5. Surround Left
6. Surround Right
7. Back Surround Left
8. Back Surround Right.

see also: viewtopic.php?f=76&t=16999
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Re: correct 7.1 channels available in nuendo 6?

Postby Fredo » Fri Feb 08, 2013 2:15 pm

Hmmmm ....
Isn't that exactly what 7.1 Cine setting is like?

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Re: correct 7.1 channels available in nuendo 6?

Postby Lydiot » Fri Feb 08, 2013 2:51 pm

Fredo wrote:Hmmmm ....
Isn't that exactly what 7.1 Cine setting is like?

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Is it?
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Re: correct 7.1 channels available in nuendo 6?

Postby Tino Degen » Fri Feb 08, 2013 4:21 pm

The 7.1. Cine format represents the "older" Sony
SDDS format using 5 front speaker. cheers, Tino
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Re: correct 7.1 channels available in nuendo 6?

Postby Fredo » Fri Feb 08, 2013 4:55 pm

I'm sorry, I meant to say 7.1 Music.
That's the format with the two extra back surrounds.

My mistake.

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Re: correct 7.1 channels available in nuendo 6?

Postby Lydiot » Fri Feb 08, 2013 5:32 pm

Tino Degen wrote:The 7.1. Cine format represents the "older" Sony
SDDS format using 5 front speaker. cheers, Tino


So are you going to support what seems to be the "current" dolby layout as well then, or just the "old" Sony one?
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Re: correct 7.1 channels available in nuendo 6?

Postby Fredo » Fri Feb 08, 2013 5:46 pm

Have you checked the 7.1 Music config?

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Re: correct 7.1 channels available in nuendo 6?

Postby Lydiot » Fri Feb 08, 2013 6:06 pm

Fredo wrote:Have you checked the 7.1 Music config?

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No I haven't. I'm just wondering if they're going to I guess double up on it and relabel one. This question pops up regularly ever since the free channel assignment was taken away and it seems sort of obvious to me that the thing to do is make sure all the major channel assignments are available and labeled correctly. I certainly don't see a reason why a format such as 7.1 (Dolby) isn't included if people are actually using it to mix films.

Who mixes music for 7.1?
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Re: correct 7.1 channels available in nuendo 6?

Postby DG » Fri Feb 08, 2013 8:48 pm

Of course the best solution would be to be able to create your own configuration, as you can in Pro Tools, and even Reaper.

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Re: correct 7.1 channels available in nuendo 6?

Postby fuzzydude » Sat Feb 09, 2013 2:09 pm

Lydiot wrote:
Fredo wrote:Have you checked the 7.1 Music config?

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No I haven't. I'm just wondering if they're going to I guess double up on it and relabel one. This question pops up regularly ever since the free channel assignment was taken away and it seems sort of obvious to me that the thing to do is make sure all the major channel assignments are available and labeled correctly. I certainly don't see a reason why a format such as 7.1 (Dolby) isn't included if people are actually using it to mix films.

Who mixes music for 7.1?


Occasionally, I do. Most recent project was for Beady Eye. Broadcaster required a non standard channel config so Nuendo could not be used. Pro Tools was used instead. Fredo, will Nuendo be returning to free channel assignment to allow for non standard configurations?
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Re: correct 7.1 channels available in nuendo 6?

Postby Fredo » Sat Feb 09, 2013 3:18 pm

fuzzydude wrote:Fredo, will Nuendo be returning to free channel assignment to allow for non standard configurations?

AFAIK, not on short term.

How are PT and Reaper handling the relation of speakers, their corresponding levels, panning between speakers, panners, and up/downmixing/converting of channels, whenever you set up some exotic surround config?
The old N1 customized speaker config worked for *very* exotic surround configs, but it would never have worked for setting up a standard, calibrated format.


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Re: correct 7.1 channels available in nuendo 6?

Postby Lydiot » Sat Feb 09, 2013 5:05 pm

Fredo wrote:
fuzzydude wrote:Fredo, will Nuendo be returning to free channel assignment to allow for non standard configurations?

AFAIK, not on short term.

How are PT and Reaper handling the relation of speakers, their corresponding levels, panning between speakers, panners, and up/downmixing/converting of channels, whenever you set up some exotic surround config?
The old N1 customized speaker config worked for *very* exotic surround configs, but it would never have worked for setting up a standard, calibrated format.


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Why would it not have worked for standard calibrated formats?
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Re: correct 7.1 channels available in nuendo 6?

Postby DG » Sun Feb 10, 2013 1:03 am

Fredo wrote:
fuzzydude wrote:Fredo, will Nuendo be returning to free channel assignment to allow for non standard configurations?

AFAIK, not on short term.

How are PT and Reaper handling the relation of speakers, their corresponding levels, panning between speakers, panners, and up/downmixing/converting of channels, whenever you set up some exotic surround config?
The old N1 customized speaker config worked for *very* exotic surround configs, but it would never have worked for setting up a standard, calibrated format.


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True, but all I'm wanting to do is set a multi channel group, so that I can feed 8 stereo instruments into it and nsert one instance of SPAT. Currently it is a real pain.

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Re: correct 7.1 channels available in nuendo 6?

Postby Fredo » Mon Feb 11, 2013 2:00 pm

Lydiot wrote:Why would it not have worked for standard calibrated formats?

Just imagine that you would "customize" you simple stereo setup.
You move the right speaker 5 meters to the back and 5 meters to the right.

Question: would panning a mono course in the Center still provide you a perfect Ghost center?
Would a LCR folddown to stereo still work?
Etc ....

Maybe an exaggerated example, but you should get the idea.

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Re: correct 7.1 channels available in nuendo 6?

Postby Lydiot » Mon Feb 11, 2013 10:27 pm

Fredo wrote:
Lydiot wrote:Why would it not have worked for standard calibrated formats?

Just imagine that you would "customize" you simple stereo setup.
You move the right speaker 5 meters to the back and 5 meters to the right.

Question: would panning a mono course in the Center still provide you a perfect Ghost center?
Would a LCR folddown to stereo still work?
Etc ....

Maybe an exaggerated example, but you should get the idea.

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I think we misunderstood each other. I thought you mean that with free routing the actual standard routings like a 5.1 cinema format wouldn't have worked. But I see now that's not what you were talking about.

Having said that though I think your point is a bit moot though since I'm betting many of those who would take advantage of "free routing" would be able to compensate for what you're talking about. Obviously if some routing is custom it's up to the creator to create the what needs to happen, or adjust to it, if you know what I mean.
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Re: correct 7.1 channels available in nuendo 6?

Postby rav » Mon Feb 18, 2013 11:00 pm

DG wrote:Of course the best solution would be to be able to create your own configuration, as you can in Pro Tools, and even Reaper.

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Agree,

Custom speakers configurations would be really useful when mixing for custom installations/events.

Don´t think will have it on nuendo 6 if I remember correctly.

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