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Metronome click patterns/Programmable click track

Postby SteveInChicago » Mon Mar 04, 2013 10:52 pm

Implement a feature where we can create patterns in the Cubase metronome, and save them as presets, and where we can set the value of the beat, and have that shown in the grid.

Yes, I know you are thinking, why not create a click track? well, for one thing, having this in the Cubase click would permit
- including the click in a mix-down
- controlling its volume from the control room
- the use of (non x/4) audio clicks within the metronome dialog
- Automating the click
and it would be faster to create and faster to change.

Example:
11/16: 1 2 1 2 1 2 3 1 2 1 2
7/8: 1 2 3 4 1 2 3

I want to add (just in case) that the pattern should not be limited to a low number of cells, such as is the case with the Score Time Signature dialog.
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Re: Metronome click patterns

Postby marQs » Tue Mar 05, 2013 10:19 am

+1!

We need another track category, the fully programmable click track, utilizing Cubase' onboard click.
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Re: Metronome click patterns/Programmable click track

Postby moondog » Mon Mar 11, 2013 4:50 pm

+1
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Re: Metronome click patterns/Programmable click track

Postby chase » Tue Mar 12, 2013 2:02 am

No, by accepting the Terms and Conditions, Cubase users agree to use only 4/4.

While the program does give a superficial appearance of allowing other time signatures, this does NOT imply that Steinberg actually condones such practice. For instance, the metronome and grid lines have been specifically designed to discourage compound time, and a little-known feature of Cubase is its ability to give a painful electric shock to anyone who persists in attempting to use anything but 4/4.

The metronome in (the by-then-tablet-only) C12 will just be a synthesised voice shouting ONE TWO THREE FOUR, but that'll be OK because the only people who'll still buy the (new toy-style, touch-only) Cubase will have no idea that other time signatures are possible. Happy little people. See them smiling. The Cubase screen it pretty and they can touch it.

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Re: Metronome click patterns/Programmable click track

Postby SteveInChicago » Tue Mar 12, 2013 2:17 am

Chase, You're freaking hilarious. And yes, of course. I run everything I write by Helge before printing to vinyl, and previous to Helge, Chris B, all the way back to Charlie himself. (Or the guys at Steinberg/Jones, if you're in the States – remember?)

By the way, did you know you can get any grid you want using groove templates? (but that doesn't carry over to anything besides the grid of course)

And Chase, howse about a nice +1 for the request? I could happen. DP8 is coming out for the PC (someday) there will be a new hew and cry - Digital Performer has it why don't we?! Waaa! For composing in midi and scoring to picture that's the real competition.

(Also, Roland/Boss actually makes a metronome that shouts ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, so SB might have to fight it out with Roland for that. Unless it's YaRolmaha by then.)
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Re: Metronome click patterns/Programmable click track

Postby harcourt » Wed Mar 13, 2013 12:12 am

+1
...A very good request. I would also like optional default voices exclaiming in native German, with each count-in prefixed by a mandatory "Achtung!". A selection of well known voices from the nefarious to the hilarious would be candy on top.
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Re: Metronome click patterns/Programmable click track

Postby chase » Fri Mar 15, 2013 6:24 pm

SteveInChicago wrote:And Chase, howse about a nice +1 for the request? I could happen. DP8 is coming out for the PC (someday) there will be a new hew and cry - Digital Performer has it why don't we?!

A few days late, but, yes:
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Re: Metronome click patterns/Programmable click track

Postby BriHar » Mon Mar 18, 2013 10:09 am

SteveInChicago wrote:(Also, Roland/Boss actually makes a metronome that shouts ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, so SB might have to fight it out with Roland for that. Unless it's YaRolmaha by then.)


Perhaps Ein, Zwei, Drei, Vier... would counter any infringement?

YARolmaha? I thought it would be Rolaha exept for in the Bahamas where it would be called Yamand.
:lol:

Forgot to mention re. the click patterns:
+1
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Re: Metronome click patterns/Programmable click track

Postby SteveInChicago » Mon Mar 18, 2013 2:32 pm

YaVolmaha.

Bri how bout a +1 while you're at it?
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Re: Metronome click patterns/Programmable click track

Postby bigbluebarry » Fri Mar 22, 2013 7:39 am

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Re: Metronome click patterns/Programmable click track

Postby SteveInChicago » Fri Apr 05, 2013 2:53 pm

bump...
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Re: Metronome click patterns/Programmable click track

Postby SteveInChicago » Thu May 30, 2013 4:03 pm

It's been a couple months since I bumped this, but there a bunch of new faces on the forum, and Digital Performer 8 for Windows has been released. (DP 8 has this metronome)

So... bump.
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Re: Metronome click patterns/Programmable click track

Postby mozizo » Thu May 30, 2013 6:08 pm

See the pretty screen. Touch the pretty screen. Life is good. One two three four, one two three four, one two three four, ...


LOL.. :lol:
One two three four FIVE----- :o Five ?? Five ? where that five came from ? what five got to do with music..?? :roll:
O.K i can deal with five ill count.. one two three five..one two three five :!:

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Re: Metronome click patterns/Programmable click track

Postby Puma0382 » Thu May 30, 2013 7:30 pm

yes - looked quite comprehensive in DP8 (from what I recall of the trial I did, which has since run out..).
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Re: Metronome click patterns/Programmable click track

Postby Crotchety » Sun Jul 21, 2013 5:06 pm

+1 and backed up by thick bar lines
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Re: Metronome click patterns/Programmable click track

Postby SteveInChicago » Sun Aug 18, 2013 4:20 pm

This is still a good idea ;)
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Re: Metronome click patterns/Programmable click track

Postby Prock » Sun Aug 18, 2013 5:54 pm

SteveInChicago wrote:This is still a good idea;)



+1
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Re: Metronome click patterns/Programmable click track

Postby mcp » Sun Aug 25, 2013 4:48 pm

+1

should also include triplets etc.
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Re: Metronome click patterns/Programmable click track

Postby SteveInChicago » Fri Sep 13, 2013 1:29 pm

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Re: Metronome click patterns/Programmable click track

Postby Puma0382 » Sun Sep 15, 2013 9:56 am

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Re: Metronome click patterns/Programmable click track

Postby KenMorgan » Thu Oct 31, 2013 2:33 pm

A printed/printable click track is really REALLY needed...work-arounds are not acceptable in 2013...
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Re: Metronome click patterns/Programmable click track

Postby Jan Gemke » Fri Nov 08, 2013 11:55 pm

Yes that would be great.
In addition the diferent ways of counting and the accentuation should be made visible in the timeline.
This would speed up editing.

Some examples I use in Flamenco music:
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12
12 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11
8 9 10 11 12 1 2 3 4 5 6 7
1 2 3 4 5 6 1 and 2 and 3 and
1 2 3 1 2 3 1 2
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Re: Metronome click patterns/Programmable click track

Postby mart » Sun Nov 10, 2013 12:27 pm

+1

Very frequent that I need create a double timed click for a drummer when the song tempo is slow. Some sort of doubling of the intervals or programmable option would be neater

The ability to turn the click track into midi or audio is super needed as I need to make live tracks or sync licence stems very often which require click as a printable track. I always need to manually build a new click track as it stands
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Re: Metronome click patterns/Programmable click track

Postby CubeDAW » Wed Nov 13, 2013 6:41 am

I had a thread abut the metronome months ago. We use it all the time yet it seems so outdated. It could be so much more than what it is. It should have percussion loops for every time signature and tempo. I also have a problem with being limited to one tempo map. I would like to have several tempo maps so all the tracks don't have to be in the same time signature or the same tempo. I need to be able for instance, gradually slow down some tracks while other tracks remain at a steady tempo. This technique called phase music was pioneered by Steve Reich. You can not do it in Cubase unless you turn all midi into audio tracks.
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Re: Metronome click patterns/Programmable click track

Postby TwinOak » Fri Nov 22, 2013 10:07 pm

+1
I've been longing for a metronome track type as long as I've used Cubase professionally, right now we almost always record a few bars of cowbell and a shaker with a suitable pattern, dupe it up and feed it to the cue sends to be able to mute and automate volume freely.

An alternative to a new track type could be a metronome plug-in for use in a regular audio track.

Some features I'd like to see:
-Possibility to add multiple metronome tracks/plug-ins, each with its own pattern, sound, and signature, with the option to map it either absolute or relative to the global tempo/signature. (for instance, a 3/4 metronome track with a global 4/4 signature could either mark every 3rd beat or give 3 over 4 pattern, great for practice)

-It would allow muting/automation locally for the track/plug, the "click" buttons and faders in the control room and on the transport panel would control all metronomes globally.


The only downside is that with more and more of these options the saved time and workflow difference would be less and less compared to slapping up some midi tracks and a groove agent one preset with your favourite click sounds. Maybe a simple solution with only basic automation would become the most used one after all.
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