MidiGuitar software - by JamOrigion

http://www.fishman.com/tripleplay I bet this one could be the ticket, wireless. I don’t know how does it track.
The Roland system has a lot of options and needs to be properly setup, very time consuming and
heartbreak until it begins to deliver.
I wish Steinberg/YAMAHA took an interest on the MIDI guitar guy. He is really close to something
unique on the software realm. Amazing.

I have a Roland hex pickup and GR MIDI interface. It works … sort of. I’d never brave using one live. No way. But in a DAW environment, especially if you have abundant time to edit/correct all the glitches, it can provide serviceable results.

I’ve also used Melodyne to convert monophonic audio tracks to MIDI. That can be a lot of fun, and lead to some very interesting results. Time consuming though.

Yes, both Steinberg and ableton, ceremony does it too, convert audio to midi. I think Steinberg does only melodic stuff, while the others can do harmony.
@Swamptone, you can use Roland live with confidence as long as you set it to accommodate your playing style and the instrument at use.
I have a gk setting on the vg99 where pickup sensitivity is set to zero, so it works well. Zero is a starting point, never go past 5 or you will head into trouble, the sound from the resonating string will make the others vibrate and it will be picked up, hence the erroneous playing. So I have two settings, one for guitar the other for MIDI. It works.
Check the video tutorials from Roland.ca on YouTube. They restored my faith on the Roland gear.

Steve

If they’re still around, check out the Casio Dg-20 guitar. I bought one on eBay about 3 years ago that works for about $22.00. It seems to resemble the Starlab but way less regarding cost. As a guitar player it will but a smile on your face. I have no idea how these slack nylon strings tune but the thing works fine. It’s like one of those things that you try it and get it out of your system. And for $20 bucks, you realize that even the greatest midi guitar is not something you’ll want to spend big money on. When the urge strikes again, it’s there in the corner waiting for you.
Just have your D batteries ready. :smiley: yes, it can use a transformer too …check this out or search for yourself

Al

Another entry in the midi guitar quest. Uses infrared to detect fingering, a 24 fret version is rumored for next year.

Video: - YouTube

It’s definitely aimed at iPads and Macs but it says it supports coremidi. rptMidi, a free download provides coremidi to Windows. No idea if it would work for this demoed but not actually for sale product. Doubt any midi controller handles a pre-bend double stop bend down pull off.

About 10 years ago I saw Jeff Beck with Jennifer Batten. Great show! She pulled off some amazing leads with what I think was a Les Paulish looking Godin. They probably had custom engineered gear.

I gave up on these a long time ago. The Roland one that’s been out now for…10 years?

Try 36 years. First one was introduced in 1977. Scary, aint it?

That would be a pity. My GR20 will definitely play back midi.
:bulb: If I were you, and interested in the 55, I’d download the PDF manual for the unit, then you’ll know for sure.

No, I think the GR55 is like the GR20 in that it can not be used as a standalone MIDI synth being triggered by external midi. The only thing that triggers the module’s inbuilt sounds is the hex guitar pickup that you fix to your guitar (or in the case of Godin guitars that comes built in to your guitar).

Thr GR55, like the GR20, will send midi information to e.g. a DAW or another synth module.

The difference between the GR55 and the GR20 is that the newer GR55 also uses the hex pickup for generating modelled sounds (i.e. no latency).

Steve.

I assure you the GR-20 can play MIDI either from another keyboard or from a recorded MIDI track of a sequencer!
I know! I do it!
In fact it can do it from both simultaneously with different patches or from six different tracks when you know how.
Furthermore, check this out:
http://cms.rolandus.com/assets/media/pdf/GR20WS03.pdf :wink:

Thanks Brihar, I stand corrected (I never knew this was possible and I used to use a GR20) :blush:

Steve.

A quick review of the jamorigin software mentioned by the OP:

Tried it for two hours as a standalone and as a VST insert testing with two guitars (Strat and Tele) thru a clean pre. Various pickup combos used. 64 sample buffer.

Once you get it into a DAW, the thing falls apart…particularly if you are recording a MIDI track. Way too many false notes, regardless of UI settings. Note placement too far off from where it was played. Post quanting actually made it worse. No ability to reset the UI without trashing its Pref folder. No ability to quickly set note recognition range sensitivity to conform to the range of notes to be played…something that might improve the incredible amount of false triggering this thing generates.

An interesting toy for iPad user. A good initial first effort, but certainly not a $100 app at this stage of its development. $30 tops, in it’s present state…and only if you’re bored to tears.

10 years is a long time to wait to hear the note - talk about latency. :laughing:

No discussion about midi guitar woulod be complete however without checking out the MISA DIGITAL KITARA

Steve Fogal writes:
“So, with that…I’m not even sure I really NEED midi guitar per say…maybe I just have it as a want. Hard to say…I guess I would just have to experience using something for a while. I am afterall, far more comfortable on guitar than a keyboard.”

As a guitarist , I think you’ve pretty much come to the basic realization. I shelled out $600 a few years ago for the Axon set up for my strat and after awhile ,it became clear that ,even on a good attempt , midi guitar can’t substitute for decent keyboard comping because at best you’ll only get 4 note chords and the work involved is far more than just learning to play the parts on keyboard. The midi guitar does stand out for playing basslines and synth solos however.

You know Steve, I have just slightly better keyboard abilities than a 2 year beginner. I can pick stuff out but one thing that has been a big benefit to me is the way you can play a few notes and on replay, layer in a few more and keep on going til it sounds like a full sound. My parents had a player piano back in the 70’s and those paper rolls played back like there were two guys sitting at the piano.

One of the things I love about the iPad is the tremendous variety of midi GUIs available. Along with traditional keyboards one can tap, slide pinch with one two or all fingers on circles, squares, hexagons, guitar necks, blank surfaces and user defined interfaces. Control multiple instruments use the accelerometers to generate mod wheel CCs. Change the scales, tune in third’s fourths or fifths. (Many inventive ways to represent the circle of fifths and interval relationships come out on what seemsto be a daily basis). Remember, the D in MIDI stands for digital and it’s time to rethink the way we interact with music. And with Cubasis and Audiobus you can capture the midi and audio and edit away. Or use the 'pad as a controller to hardware midi devices and capture it in Cubase on a desk or lap top.

That’s true. I have about 5 songs on my piano repertoire that would make you think I was a accomplished pro. We sit, they listen and …Then. " I didn’t know you played like that… Play something else!" Duh…

I can only fumble thru the rest so …it’s time to get up, what’s worse, none of the other 5 are modern

Ave Maria The Entertainer ( from the sting) the theme from Exodus fur Elise and a medley of 1950’s doo wop C Am F and G crap

After that Its chopsticks

I wish I could come to embrace the Ipad as you have. I do use the Omnisphere app , The Maschine app and the Cubase remote control. Other than that ,for me mentally, it remains a closed device. Because there’s no real midi in or out or real usb, I see my self creating something only to have it reside forever in the Ipad. I’ve tried the drag and drop to Itunes and nothing ever works. Really wish they’d have just put a usb port on it. I understand a lot of this is laziness on my part for not looking for a “hack” but I guess I deeply resent having to find a work around for a $600 device to just do what it should.

Surfer I’m just ranting, not at you of course