Hi - I didn’t understand this. Are you meaning you’re not happy with Battery 4…? Or, you are not happy when combining it with BeatDesigner…? Its really BeatDesigner alone that you’re not happy with…?
I ask, since I am thinking about an upgrade to Komplete 9 end of this month - Battery 4 is one of the main reasons; the NI ‘demo’ is all flash-bang-whizzo - but I’m hoping the basic kits from Batt3 etc are all intact and even better would be that they’ve been added to…
Indeed as stated already - focus on BIG QUALITY DRUMS, instead of electronic samples and stuff: they are more than available! the Maschine real drums (60-70-80…) aren’t bad, but … they don’t sound “real” enough, as big a NI-fan I am, I hope YAMAHA/STEINBERG do a better job !! I like the different vibes-ideas I heard so far!
I meant I am Very Happy w/B4!!
Absolutely Love it, and combining it with Beat Designer is great but BD is just so riddled w/it’s window/AOT issues that sometimes it kills workflow…
I’m one of those fans. I’m not good at processing drums, or mixing in general, and I really don’t want to dedicate the time to get better. I like to write songs. That’s what I’d like to spend my time doing, as that’s what I enjoy most. Straight out of the box, some of Morgan’s acoustic sets sound better to me than anything else I have (BFD2, SSD4). I’m very interested in whatever else he has coming out.
Just to make sure I understand the last part here, this means we could import our own samples?
If so, I like this part the best, TBH.
A pre-fabricated drummer is great at times, but a custom one would be the beat. I’d love it if we’ll be able to make our own! I think a lot of people would appreciate such a feature.
I haven’t read much of what’s already been written in this thread and I have no expreience with prevoisu versions of Groove Agent, I just want to say that the ultimate drum plug-in is still not made and now Steinberg has the chance to do that. I hope you will take a closer look at Xfer Record’s drum plug-in Nerve and FXpansion’s Tremor for inspiration when it comes to sound design capabillities and layout of the seqencer (polyrhythmic, please!). Also, for a tight integration to Cubase I suggest that you create a new track type in Cubase that makes the interaction between the plug-in and the what’s going on in the project window as smooth as possible (take a look at Reason’s pattern lane).
Intro:
Guys, I’m a BIG Halion Sonic fan & Absolute VSTi collection, so I wanted to test HALion 4 (I dwnled a trial).
To be very honest, I’m not impressed at all, I hoped that I could alter for example the Triebwerk sounds etc, looks like they are real samples etc. So my biggest wish for HALion4 is scattered so to speak
I know it does a LOT more than that (it’s a sampler…) but i don’t really have time to mess with that kind of stuff.
BUT, I came a cross the preset “FlexPhrased Vintage Drums”, and OH MY GOD it sounds SO PHAT!!
is this what they are preparing for GA4? or is this what GA3 had? because I LOVE that sound please help me find more of these goodies !!
=> Where did this come from, does Steinberg make more of these loops/drum-phrased-recordings? Is it a part of a legacy package?
Hi Matthias,
Very new here and to GA3 - in which I am enjoying so far!
Just curious about the stand-alone capabilities of GA3 outside of a host. I was really hoping that it could actually run independantly of any Sequencer (like Sonar X2 Producer - which I have), so that it could actually be a virtual drummer, in a live setting. What I mean is - I play guitar with a couple of other musicians and we dont have a drummer, so it would be good if we could alter the tempo/time signature on-the-fly via a slider or button on the GA3 interface (not just in preferences), and also to be able to insert an intro (like a simple count-in) before the main rhythm starts - just like when actually performing. I use an Ney-fi iPad app that can mimic the open window on the computer, and be used as a DAW controller in real time with touch control (no need to use a mouse), or any open window on the computer - like the stand-alone GA3 window. So what I’m asking is - can you think about adding these capabilities so that it can truly be a virtual drummer for those who want to use it outside of a DAW, in live performance settings?
This was the main reason I bought this program, thinking this was a possibilty - something I couldn’t find elsewhere.
Regards, Smokey
A quibble: My Zendrum sends out such quick note-on/note-off messages that they don’t light up the pads on the Groove Agent One panel (I know, I know - this is Groove Agent 4). So - can you please put some code in there such that pads light up even if the note off event is immediately after the note on event?
Drummer in the new Logic X is stellar!!! Fast loading, great sounding samples…simple to use…yet also able to mix.
I hope GA 4 will be able to drag the midi to the track like Superior Drummer as well.
Keep the percussion agent in some form as well please.
Groove on Steinberg!!!
Great to hear GA4 is coming. I’ve loved and used Groove Agent since it first came out.
I’ve pretty much given up on Steinberg products, since I never remember to carry my dongle with me when I’m out with the laptop, so I’ve high hopes for the new Logic X Drummer, which has much of the functionality of Groove Agent.
But it would be nice if GA4 could:
Drag and drop midi of a loop to a midi track, like most
Drag and drop audio to an audio track
GA3 has the best palette of rhythms and sounds for me. It’s just a shame the dongle makes it nearly unusable for someone who isn’t in a static 1990s studio.
My request: break away from “other usual suspects” - we already bought them while waiting …
use different drummers that are masters in their own style. Don’t follow the less expensive option of using one or two session drummers for all style grooves. I’d be willing to pay for personalised expansion options featuring well known masters e.g. Dave Weckle, Steve Gadd, Billy Cobham, Manu Katche, Mike Portnoy etc
the dual agent concept is excellent; improve on it by offering more percussion options. Think Miami Sound machine…
the immediacy of the slider concept is brilliant; don’t buy into the drag and drop… that works but is not nearly as much fun or intuitive. Keep the interface simple but allow us to play the kit and styles as if we were directing our own session drummer. Obviously Logic X has nice additions … improve on them
I’m very pleased to see That Groove Agent will be continued.
At the moment I work on a album and use Groove Agent 3 in many tracks.
I’m sure the new Agent will be even better for this task.
I would really appreciate to hear when the new agent will be available!
( I run GA3 in a 64 bit version of Cubase Artist 7.
Works fine with the help of Jbridge, a little tool that helps 32 bit plugins to run in a 64 bit DAW )
To me the strength and originality of Groove Agent is in the very easy but powerfull ability in less than a few minutes to get the basis for a song.
The very usefull random features allows you to jam and exercise, to improvise and also to make sketches and is a big help when writing music.
This is what I would like to see in Groove Agent 4:
Style/Genre
Extend the number of Styles and Genres
Pattern/Fill/Intro/Ending
Extend the number of patterns and Fills within a Style/Genre
Add optional intros and endings
Drummer
Add a “Choose Drummer” Option for each Style/Genre:
Let several drummers, as talented as Rasmus Kihlberg, play the same kind and number of patterns/Fills within each Style/Genre so we can choose between several drummers for the same style/Genre
Make this option consistent: the same number of patterns for each drummer within one Style/Genre with aproximatively the same complexity for each pattern would make the patterns interchangeable.
User Library
Let the user add his own patterns, fills, intros and endings and the ability to create a user library.
Jaming/Random features
Allow the random pattern/fill function to choose from a greater range of patterns/fills:
Mode a. adjacent patterns/fills as it is now
Mode b. extended patterns/fills range
Mode c. even more extended patterns/fills range
Mode d. all patterns/fills
Mode e. random mode (a to d)
Fill control position
Add a random mode for the Fills Control position
Hi , what is the latest on GA 4 being released. I’m happy, but I would have been happier if GA 3 worked with Cubase 7. NO excuse in my opinion. Come on guys, what was the problem?? I’ve been a customer since Cubase VST.
Later Jeff