I haven’t been that long a user of Cubase, started on 5 and now on 6.5, but would just like to add my voice to those critical of the UI.
Seems to me that Steinberg have taken a seriously wrong turn with 7.
Aside from any bugs that 7 may suffer (by and large they get fixed eventually), the UI is just plain horrible. It looks cheap and not at all business-like and ergonomic.
Unfortunately, IME it is unlikely that Steinberg will change it as developers rarely admit that they got it wrong.
OK, the mixer stuff is the way it is. I can live with it.
My problem is more the hanging and crashing since I installed 7.05. Some songs just wont load anymore. Cubase just freezes while loading the songs. It doesnt matter if the song has an older or newer format (C6.x oder 7.x)
This has always happened sometimes but never as much as now (2 Songs out of 5 will crash when loading). When I say crash I mean Cubase just freezes and has to be ended from the task manager. I thought it might have to do with some faulty plugin but I havent found out which one yet (if its that). The crashes are random.
It all of this wasn’t an issue (or at least not as bad) with 7.04.
any ideas?
Apart from this I’m still really quite happy with C7 and I definetly do not want to go back.
I’m afraid 6 months after v7.0.0 release and 5 updates the mix console isn’t fully ready…
I’m still not convinced by C7 mix console apart the new channel selection panel. I can’t believe Steinberg decided such a big change without users’ advice or validation ?!!!
3 crashes with 3 new plugin’s , very strange ,if I use a new plugin after it’s been installed Cubase closes , after that crash they run fine , how bizarre !!!
I don’t often get involved in discussions on forums, but for what it’s worth I’m also very concerned about the design direction Cubase is headed in with v7. The new GUI decisions have all been terrible. I’m not sure what happened - 6.5 is a masterpiece by comparison.
From the first day of v7’s release, I was worried. I even sent a very quick redesign http://goo.gl/imFyR to Steinberg, to show that they may have “thrown the baby out with the bathwater”. The resizing thing is an unnecessary burden; it’s practically impossible to design something that looks good at all sizes. Personally, I’d go back to a couple of fixed size options, and make sure they’re always beautiful.
We all occasionally venture down roads that lead nowhere, and there’s really no shame in reversing and heading in a different, better direction. Personally, I really hope Steinberg consider it. Until then, I’ll remain on 6.5.
that is a great mock-up … BUT, you still have the sizing problem. It won’t necessarily scale. The issue here is trying to make a size agnostic mixer. That IMO is a mistake. You need a couple of really well done sizes. Not 1 size that is a compromise at every size.
Steinberg NEEDs a good graphic designer, It’s a shame that some audio engineers here can make best and useful designs than Steinberg’s does. i have a new iMac, the top one, and the mixer zooms in and out like the 80’s graphics, i really like the 80’s sound, not the Sinclair Spectrum graphics…
New designer and a new graphics engineer please… My customers doesn’t give me five (7.0.5) oportunities to do a job…
I have only been trying out C7 for a few days but, so far, as far as the mixer is concerned, the EQ curve “pop up” and overlay of the spectrum in real time is the only thing I really like.
I don’t like the “4 square” of buttons with the fuzzy border around them when the pointer goes over them. I REALLY don’t like that I have to be REALLY careful when using the mouse wheel in the mixer rack because I might change values in there. I don’t care about the “strip” at all (I am not a pro and don’t mind just adding these to my inserts). I REALLY don’t like all the horizontal “progress bar” looking values for send levels and EQ parameters. I don’t like the “hidden” until you hover over them buttons for inserts, sends, strip effects, etc.
I can work with all of it except that mouse wheel movement in the EQ/Send values area thing. It is really a problem because you may not even realize you have changed a bunch of values. At least a preference that says, “Never change values with mouse wheel/Mouse wheel only for scrolling/zooming, etc.”.
Oh, and I do like the idea of the pictures (I know, its kind of cheesy and “garage band” but you don’t have to put them in there…)
BTW, How do I get my picture to just show up in the post (i.e. not as a link but the actual picture?)
J.L.