Logic Pro X is out.

hummmm…
Interesting… :wink:

+1

Logic´s Flex Pitch = Cubase´s Vari Audio
Logic Control iPad = Cubase iC Remote Controller iPad
Smart Controls = Quick Controls
new Retro Synth = Retrologue VSTi Synth
Midi Plugins, Arpeggiator = Cubase has this since years
Amp Designer, Drummer, new Loops = don´t care. I had enough vsti´s, libs…

so-so… :nerd:

+ 1 !!!

7.5 with…fixed Mix Console/GUI!!!
and maybe…
“Multi-Instrument-Tracks”
and “Bounce-In-Place”
and “Drag/drop-to-Kontakt-Sampler”
and Halion 4 (or maybe 5), (+ The Grand, Orchestra)
(and all Steinberg´s Loop/Sample/Libs…?)
included!
:slight_smile:
Why not??
that would be fair and an adequately deal.
The competition is not sleeping - as we have seen today…
:neutral_face:

I would be more than happy with a fast, responsive and coherent interface & mixer. All without bugs, of course.

Let me choose my own VST instruments and libraries, instead of charging for ones I don’t need. It’s a sequencer after all.

you´re right. it was just a comparison to logic X.

very well said :wink:

Logic Pro X does look nice but there are no real innovations as far as I can see. Most of the new features have been taken from things that Cubase and Digital Performer (the only other DAWs I know) have had for years. I’m not sure if the handling of multi-timbal instruments has improved at all.

If Steinberg would improve the new mixer and use a less crappy font for the Cubase 7 edit windows, I wouldn’t even think of getting the new Logic, but…

BTW I think it’s nonsense to compare the price of Logic to other professional DAWs - Apple can afford to sell it at a loss to force people into buying their hardware. I’m a Mac user but do like having the option of switching to PC.

The Drummer. These events on drum track are midi or audio? They look like audio loops and changing when tweaking ? Easy.

how so? It’s $200 bucks to upgrade to Logic X. It’s $150->$200 to upgrade to Cubase. If you are talking about someone who is at ground zero without a DAW at all, then by that “logic” everyone needs to catch up with the times and buy Reaper.

Apple are not an innovative company. Just copying Cubase. They sue Samsung for copying their ipad then they go and copy Cubase.

Logic is so alien to me… glad I use cubase :slight_smile:

can’t believe that they actually give the drummer track a name " hi im Kyle your drummer " how toyish is that :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

If you factor in the dongles, Cubase is WAY cheaper.

Cubase7 + dongle = $624.98

LogicX + dongle = $2,799.99

This is intended to be retro chic. Kyle is based on Scout the dog from MS Windows 95. :wink:

I would think in the background, this is just MIDI triggering some samples (with accompanying fancy screen re-draws). I could be wrong of course and it could be, oh wait a minute, just like Steinberg’s GrooveAgent 3…! Real audio parts played, with a ‘complexity’ slider, fills, more/less hi-hat/toms etc, and a load of different styles (drummers…!) and kits to choose (mix-n-match)…!

But, they don’t have a percussion agent to go with it… :wink:

Also, no-ones yet pointed out that this is all 64bit ONLY - no more 32bit plugs allowed (no bridging facility). Interesting times…

Difference is… the Logic “dongle” actually serves a purpose.

Having Cubase tied to a cheap piece of plastic easily lost, stolen or damaged always has me looking to a more “portable” alternative. And Logic is getting closer to this vision every iteration…

Gotta love that you can download Logic X on ANY and ALL macs you own. (I hear 3rd-party plug-ins will be next for Mac app store treatment. Goodbye iLok nightmares!!)

Eh, that’s your opinion. :mrgreen:

im sorry steve but we are looking towards the future so why on earth would they want to base an apple mac program for the new beer barrel mac on a windows 95 thing ? (oohhhh hang on could it be because PC rules :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: ) … slapped wrist !

I do admit that the drummer idea does look good but tacky

Yes g-string. Because PC rules, they have Kyle.