…this is from Gearslutz, User TNM wrote:
"Logic X - just some quick notes:
have timed it finally and the delay when moving audio, drawing a fade, deleting it, etc, whilst playback is happening, before the change is audible, is just over 3 seconds.
WOW.
And i am appalled there is still no gain handle ON audio clips (the inspector is not the same for user friendliness). Furthermore, gain handles are SO handy when you want to do some quick level matching on a track visually before you compress (as clip gain is pre insert)… I don’t get this at all… there is no way to do it in logic, besides using an oscilloscope to see the output of the gain change in realtime… but… now the best oscilloscope, Bram’s sexoscope (sorry but that’s the name), to use for this specific function, won’t work cause it’s only 32 bit. I hope someone has the smarts to make a 32 to 64 bit 3rd party AU bridge, i really do.
Now i am on my last days of Cubase 7 demo, but if it didn’t have the terrible cpu spikes on Mac (yes i am on 7.05 which has supposedly fixed it), i’d make the switch. See, i always said i would wait for logic X and see where apple are taking it. And now after 4 years i know… all they could do is a gui change and bolted on features… THIS IS LOGIC 8 and 9 (and every version from OSX onwards) in a new GUI with a couple features. THAT’S IT.
I will be asking for a refund as this is a bit of a joke to ask $200 for this (not for a first time user, i mean for someone who owns suite 9)… and to top it off i lose waveburner. i love how apple just drop awesome programs with no warning. SO cool of them… NOT ! LOL!
First time i am going to make an official complaint to apple re an app store purchase… i have absolutely no need to have paid money for this… there is nothing wrong with it per se, it’s logic we all know and love, but that’s the thing… it’s the SAME program through and through… besides some gui changes for the worst… do NOT let the new look fool you, there is nothing going on underneath that has been improved… NOTHING.
Whereas with steinberg i feel they are actually committed to Cubase alot more than apple to Logic. The big mistake steinberg made was with asio guard only going to 4x the buffer. If they allowed an asio guard of 1024 on a 64 sample buffer, it would work much better. Now the problem is, i am sitting here on Cubase 7, with a new project with 4 audio tracks and a few plugins, and the asio meter is at like 10%. that’s it. Then out of the blue every so often, it just spikes all the way to the top and let’s out a huge pop in playback… pretty much like a DPC spike on windows… It’s kind of unusable to me as there is no workaround. They said they fixed it in 7.05 but it’s not, well not for me.
Sorry guys but Cubase is a better program.
Well it has really poor timestretch though, but to work with audio, the way you can grab 20 clips and just drag a gain change and see them all change, or, the ultra smooth audio zooming, or in place midi (come on apple, really?), or vst note expression, and just the SPEED of edits, absolute instant response live engine for any edit whatsoever on audio… well… it’s very very good.
If they fix the spikes and add a better TS, i am gone. This is from a 17 year logic user… wow, 17 years!
I can’t think of a single thing logic X does better than Cubase other than better performance, and better quality slicing and flex stretch.(admittedly that one is pretty hugely important)… But i can think of lots cubase does better. It’s very frustrating though that steinberg just can’t get the performance right on mac, and seem uninterested in fixing the crappy time stretch. Oh well. regardless i am really really close now to doing the switch. Kind of excited about it too. Guys this is just how i feel after this release of Logic… I am a huge supporter of the program and all my posts prior to this reflect that, so please don’t flame me… i just expected so much more… I actually have a feeling the team have basically either
- Lost their “mojo” ie literally don’t know how to improve it
or:
- it was a rushed update… more like a 6 month job than 4 years - which makes sense when so little has changed besides the look… literally barely ANYTHING else.
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