Sound On Sound says it all: Too Dark

Most real mix consoles are not black. They are silver, shiny. I can only think of old Studiomaster consoles being black. I think silver/grey should be available as an option for those who don’t like dark GUI.

Leave the boxes alone then.

Having flashbacks of my grandparents complaining about not being able to deal with digital alarm clocks, vcrs, microwave ovens, etc… .

Time marches on. Adapt, overcome or sit by the trailside waiting for the saber-toothed kitty to put you out of your misery.

Bredo my old chimpy chomp , do you remember a conversation that you and I and a few others had with one of the mods asking for the white focus to be removed from the mixer and the reply was …" not possible to remove it at this present time ( 7.0.0 )" ?
Now to me that sounded like a hint that they were working on it which means hopefully we should be seeing this crap behaviour removed in an update . I have faith in Steinberg and I do believe this will be the case one day .

So the mixer hasn’t grown on you so far then :laughing: ?

If I’m not mistaken, software is not a wild animal. To strain the metaphor, it’s a dog that I should be able to train to serve -my- needs… not the other way round.

Cubase is getting -harder- to use. Which is ironic, since many of the UI changes were meant for ‘keyboard navigation’. In fact, it’s =harder= to navigate in C7 than in C6.

It would be interesting to do a series of ‘time studies’… create a list of common tasks and time/video people performing these operations. Look at not only the length of time it takes, but also the amount of -movement- — shifting hands from mouse to keyboard, taking eyes off screen, obvious lapses in concentration. My guess is that C7 is much clunkier than C6 and regardless of snappy paint job that’s what matters.

Conversely: I would -sincerely- be interested in a list of tasks that people can honestly say go -faster- in C7 than C6. Maybe there’s something I’m missing.

—JC


You’d have to be a programmer for that to work the way you want.

Given that Paul White is a Logic user it does not follow that he is talking about Cubase.
My issue is about the size of the text in much of new software given that most people have their monitors a little way back.

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Maybe it is time to think about selling your Cubase license, as it would fetch a much higher price now than were you to wait for things that may never take place.

I seem to remember somewhere between SX3 and some version of C4 there was a flurry of the usual nonsense on this very forum about how “dark” the product had become. It was around the time everyone was changing from older CRT monitors to newer LCD/LED flatscreens, and those with the newer monitors had no problems; clearly, the developers are working with cutting-edge quality and the rest of use are expected to follow.

Even if we all have reasonably good monitors in the meantime, any photographer will tell you that we’re a long way away from anything like neutral color representation. In addition, almost all monitors have some means of adjustment and I would ask whether users have ever even investigated what’s available in the setup/options menu of their monitor?

Another major factor is ambient light … if someone is working in a dedicated studio area, the likelihood is that thought has been given to the fact that almost all audio recording today utilizes some form of LCD monitor and it is unlikely that people are working with a fluorescent tube overhead, or with sunlight streaming through a window behind them.

My opinion is that, yes, the Cubase GUI has become darker over time, but with a decent and properly calibrated monitor running at native resolution, I really don’t see any problem; and, my overall preference would be something like the color scheme of Cubase 5 (with a few personal tweaks).

He’s commenting on an overall trend in music software (or should I say more -Euro- design.) Frankly, I think it’s about 10 years behind the times and is strongly influenced by Gamer culture. (Can you say ‘Matrix’?)

But if you look at where the -design- community is at, the trend has been towards lighter and brighter… Apple, Microsoft, Google… the trend is uniformly in those directions and -away- from ‘gun metal’ and ‘imitating a real mixer’. And not just because it’s the trend du jour. Countless studies have shown that lighter, simpler interfaces are (surprise!) EASIER TO READ and MORE SELF-EVIDENT.

So, since yer so opinionated, who makes a good UI, JC?

This guy makes -great- UIs: http://www.valhalladsp.com/

And… lest we forget. I still say, Cubase SX and SX2 were much more readable.

http://media.soundonsound.com/sos/aug02/images/cubasesxsurround.l.gif

http://media.soundonsound.com/sos/nov03/images/cubaseproject.l.jpg

—JC



LED vs LCD: LED vs LCD - Google Search

From my reading of your posts, it seems Cubase (7) and probably onwards will never suit your needs, so is it not an appropriate question to ask?

Who are you again?

I don’t know if it really matters being an international forum and all and besides if you really want to know who I am, why not write me a PM?

What’s the misery in using Cubase 6.5 and Nuendo 5.5?

The misery seems to be all yours, but please in your collaboration, please do not preach to users about how they should feel about change.

We do but it was you who said you were going to take time out from using Cubase 7 in the first place due to the downsizing of your music recording studio and that you’d be contributing more towards development of Nuendo in the future.

God morgen.

I am in no doubt either that 6.5.5 is an excellent, properly supported DAW, that will work well into the future on Windows systems (up to 7 at least) but what I can’t work out though, is if you are feeling disenfranchised by having purchased the software in the first place.

:question: … mmm …some kind of territorial marking going on here so I’m gone … bye bye!

But if you don’t like the “direction” the software is taking as you have previously indicated, then why bother to learn about it at all?

Overall I’m quite pleased with Cubase 7 but I find myself agreeing with the ‘too dark’ gripe: I tend to get persistent afterimages in my eyes when reading light text on a dark background and I’ve noticed the same issue, although not quite as pronounced, with Cubase 7

What a lot of hot air and ego-puffing in this thread.

We are all individual people, with individual requirements.

Instead of adopting the policy of “one size must fit all”, SB should provide more controls for the user to customize the display elements to their liking. What’s so difficult to understand about that?

You mean like skins, perhaps? Reaper leads the way in that respect, though I’m not overly fond of it myself.