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Re: Tips Tricks And Workflow Goodness.

Postby Rhino » Fri Nov 08, 2013 11:37 pm

Here's an easy but pretty powerful one I just made up, been wanting to try that for weeks, always forgot about it :
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Write a macro containing both "Bounce MIDI" and "Bounce" (audio), assign a key.

Works 100% transparent in C7, it bounces whatever you have highlighted, MIDI, audio or both ... *
Beats using the glue tool by a mile imho, ymmv.
For some weird reason it crashes 6.5 here though. :(
Go figure, I actually found a little detail that works faster in C7 ... :?
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* No, stupid, it doesn't create a MIDI/audio hybrid. :roll:
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Re: Tips Tricks And Workflow Goodness.

Postby mpayne0 » Mon Nov 11, 2013 2:58 pm

lukasbrooklyn wrote:
Rhino wrote:@ Paul, thanks for this thread !

@ everybody - great stuff !

Record VSTi instrument tracks without using groups or bounce or export ...

@ JM Cecil - this one's big !
Nothing's gonna stop you from recording audio tracks or groups that way either afaics ... :geek:
Or use it "on the fly" as starting point to create reverse vocals, reverse FX or other cool stuff for a few bars, with free choice or mix of sources :o - my projects will have one track more in the future !

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i always keep this record track up and in a split arrange mode. that way it's always visible and always ready to quickly capture whatever needs to be realtime-bounced-in-place. also good for recording realtime noodling on synths then choosing the good bits and so on.
Wonderful idea. Keeping this hard wired live REC buss so to speak.
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Re: Tips Tricks And Workflow Goodness.

Postby trashdinner » Mon Nov 11, 2013 7:53 pm

There's a cool thing I discovered. there are some tool modifiers that are not assigned to any Key and one of them is really useful (for me). In preference, under tool modifiers, range tool, you'll find "Select Full Vertical" ... what that does is that if you resise multiple midi notes or audio events with that comand, (let say you're resising the end of multiple files) it won't keep their end positions but all the event ends will align. So let say you recorded a vocal part multiple times and they are all stack but some are longer, select them all, resise the begining and the end with that command and they'll all be the same lenght. Same for midi :D
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Re: Tips Tricks And Workflow Goodness.

Postby Rotund » Mon Nov 11, 2013 9:32 pm

mozizo wrote:well not workflow but a useful KC (for me at least :) )
open all insert GUI on channel... shift+alt+left click on E button of a channel. to close all of them shift+left click on E again


Wow, how long has this one been hidden from the general public?
Haven't been able to do this since Nu2 and I've missed it badly.
Has this been there all along?
Let's hear it for Steinberg's documentation!

Thank you so much for this one!
I have brought this up before but no one ever had an answer.
I thought they did away with it.
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Re: Tips Tricks And Workflow Goodness.

Postby lukasbrooklyn » Mon Nov 11, 2013 11:05 pm

Rotund wrote:
mozizo wrote:well not workflow but a useful KC (for me at least :) )
open all insert GUI on channel... shift+alt+left click on E button of a channel. to close all of them shift+left click on E again


Wow, how long has this one been hidden from the general public?
Haven't been able to do this since Nu2 and I've missed it badly.
Has this been there all along?
Let's hear it for Steinberg's documentation!

Thank you so much for this one!
I have brought this up before but no one ever had an answer.
I thought they did away with it.


it's been this way as far as i can remember. i habitually try all different modifiers on various controls, it's usually faster then reading the manual which is lacking sometimes.

the issue is, there's no KC assignable to opening the GUIs of all the inserts on a channel. (there are, however, individual generic remote commands to open insert #1, insert #2, and so forth.)

there is, however, a KC to 'close all' plugin GUIs that are currently opened on the screen, at once. pretty handy. (ie. the same as going shift+left mouse click on any 'e' button in the arrange. found under "mixer > windows: close all plugins".)
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Re: Tips Tricks And Workflow Goodness.

Postby lukasbrooklyn » Mon Nov 11, 2013 11:20 pm

trashdinner wrote:There's a cool thing I discovered. there are some tool modifiers that are not assigned to any Key and one of them is really useful (for me). In preference, under tool modifiers, range tool, you'll find "Select Full Vertical" ... what that does is that if you resise multiple midi notes or audio events with that comand, (let say you're resising the end of multiple files) it won't keep their end positions but all the event ends will align. So let say you recorded a vocal part multiple times and they are all stack but some are longer, select them all, resise the begining and the end with that command and they'll all be the same lenght. Same for midi :D


what you're in fact describing is the "size objects>common position" modifier. ("select full vertical" is handy for moving around chunks of the whole arrange.)
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Re: Tips Tricks And Workflow Goodness.

Postby Patanjali » Tue Nov 12, 2013 11:51 am

johnstaf wrote:For me, it's a screaming red ribbon tied to the dongle. I have a second e-licenser, but I can't find it...

Attach one of those alarms for keys that beeps when you whistle. But turn it off while mixing, else it might be triggered by something in the mix.
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Re: Tips Tricks And Workflow Goodness.

Postby mozizo » Tue Nov 12, 2013 12:42 pm

i think a new section on the manual or a separate PDF of all Tips and Tricks could be very refreshing way on how to work more efficiently.
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Re: Tips Tricks And Workflow Goodness.

Postby Rhino » Tue Nov 12, 2013 1:03 pm

mozizo wrote:i think a new section on the manual or a separate PDF of all Tips and Tricks could be very refreshing way on how to work more efficiently.

http://www.printwhatyoulike.com
http://www.tracker-software.com/product/pdf-xchange-editor
http://pdfbinder.en.lo4d.com/
http://www.cutepdf.com/products/cutepdf/writer.asp
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Re: Tips Tricks And Workflow Goodness.

Postby mozizo » Tue Nov 12, 2013 1:49 pm

Rhino wrote:
mozizo wrote:i think a new section on the manual or a separate PDF of all Tips and Tricks could be very refreshing way on how to work more efficiently.

http://www.printwhatyoulike.com
http://www.tracker-software.com/product/pdf-xchange-editor
http://pdfbinder.en.lo4d.com/
http://www.cutepdf.com/products/cutepdf/writer.asp
all free, powerful and not Steinberg exclusive.
Who needs Adobe ?
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Well.. i was more thinking of steinberg to put all Tip and Tricks known by them... its their software i guess they know all of the tricks.. :!:
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Re: Tips Tricks And Workflow Goodness.

Postby Patanjali » Tue Nov 12, 2013 2:07 pm

mozizo wrote:[... its their software i guess they know all of the tricks.

That assumes they defined ALL the possible usage scenarios, and PREVENTED ANY others, otherwise just providing a whole bunch of facilities will guarantee that there will be a myriad of things users will be able to do that were never thought of in the design.
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Re: Tips Tricks And Workflow Goodness.

Postby mozizo » Tue Nov 12, 2013 2:13 pm

Patanjali wrote:
mozizo wrote:[... its their software i guess they know all of the tricks.

That assumes they defined ALL the possible usage scenarios, and PREVENTED ANY others, otherwise just providing a whole bunch of facilities will guarantee that there will be a myriad of things users will be able to do that were never thought of in the design.

im just saying there are good tricks not documented or documented here and there , its good to know them.. the user can use them(or not) and also use their own methods and have suggestions too.. there is no conflict here.
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Re: Tips Tricks And Workflow Goodness.

Postby Paul Coyle » Wed Nov 13, 2013 5:34 am

Hi All,

Just a little bump to let you know I've updated the post to include the last weeks or so worth of helpful stuff from you to you and sorry it took a while for me to get onto it.

Massive thanks to all those who add their expertise to this.

Also apologies to those tips that aren't there...some of them are Cubase 6 related or of a more general nature than the post's intent but are relevant, helpful and definitely appreciated, keep em coming.

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Re: Tips Tricks And Workflow Goodness.

Postby Norbury Brook » Wed Nov 13, 2013 8:24 pm

sorry if this has already been done;


Bounce in Place Macro; very useful


http://www.cubasetutorial.net/category/ ... -in-place/



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Re: Tips Tricks And Workflow Goodness.

Postby curteye » Wed Nov 13, 2013 11:37 pm

mozizo wrote:
Rhino wrote:
mozizo wrote:i think a new section on the manual or a separate PDF of all Tips and Tricks could be very refreshing way on how to work more efficiently.

http://www.printwhatyoulike.com
http://www.tracker-software.com/product/pdf-xchange-editor
http://pdfbinder.en.lo4d.com/
http://www.cutepdf.com/products/cutepdf/writer.asp
all free, powerful and not Steinberg exclusive.
Who needs Adobe ?
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Well.. i was more thinking of steinberg to put all Tip and Tricks known by them... its their software i guess they know all of the tricks.. :!:


First- Thanks to Rhino for the links. Very helpful info.

Second- could Bane's 'The Steinberg Forum Knowledgebase for Users by Users' be used for this?
There is already a 'Tips and Tricks' section.

viewtopic.php?f=198&t=23576

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Re: Tips Tricks And Workflow Goodness.

Postby Paul Coyle » Thu Nov 14, 2013 2:14 am

Hiya Curteye,

Thanks for the info, I hadn't found that excellent thread in the lounge, but I was looking for that type of info on Cubase 7 in the Cubase 7 forum, crazy I know.
As you may have noticed, I'm trying to keep all the info in the first post here accessible, C7 specific and ego-less.
I'm happy for this thread to be moved over to the lounge I suppose, but having been lurking this forum in various guises since last century I'd never found that thread and not for a lack of looking.
This one seems to be humming along nicely now and I can't really see why a C7 specific thread should be moved away from the C7 specific forum.
That said, I will link the knowledgebase thread to the tips post, it looks truly excellent and once again, thanks for pointing it out.
Ohh and I just noticed the tips n tricks section there, is a link to this thread ;)

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Re: Tips Tricks And Workflow Goodness.

Postby curteye » Thu Nov 14, 2013 3:22 am

Good move Paul. And as you said let's keep this one going as well.

IMHO it is one of the most useful threads on the site.

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Re: Tips Tricks And Workflow Goodness.

Postby mart » Thu Nov 14, 2013 1:43 pm

Just noticed this:

BEWARE, don’t choose erase unless you don’t need the files, choose the‘remove from pool’ option. Erase option will send your files to digital heaven. Then choose Save as Template option from the file menu.

I've started a thread in the Features and Suggestions list to get this fixed called "Save Template without Media". If you guys could +1 that thread it would help get this very flawed template problem fixed

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Re: Tips Tricks And Workflow Goodness.

Postby Rhino » Thu Nov 14, 2013 2:53 pm

When creating a template from a project, I always "backup project" to a new folder first and use that new project for templatization.
Generally speaking, I tend to use "backup project" for important project stages, too - e.g. when tracking is finished or before mastering. Keeps the "human factor" under control. :lol:
I also do a manually controlled backup of the Cubase projects folder to an external drive every night, using Beyond Compare, so any inconsistencies or accidents show up early.
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Re: Tips Tricks And Workflow Goodness.

Postby Paul Coyle » Thu Nov 28, 2013 12:57 pm

Shameless bump!
Oh, but I did add some more joy in the first post though...

@ Rhino, 'backup project' very frequently used here too, sometimes even for arrangement edits that are undoable... once bitten.
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Re: Tips Tricks And Workflow Goodness.

Postby sonicassault » Thu Nov 28, 2013 9:20 pm

If you require more than 8 Inserts on a track, just route into a clean group channel and add another 8 Inserts...
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Re: Tips Tricks And Workflow Goodness.

Postby MGil » Fri Nov 29, 2013 6:35 pm

Macro
I've created a macro to see the entire project at once.

Whole Project:
Zoom - Zoom Full
Zoom - Zoom Track Full

It's my most used macro. Better yet if you assign two KC for Undo Zoom and Redo Zoom. (this way you can use the macro to see your entire project at once and one KC to go back to the previous position.

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Re: Tips Tricks And Workflow Goodness.

Postby trashdinner » Sat Nov 30, 2013 9:18 pm

For me, some of the best tips are keyboard shortcut or modifier keys and are not really hidden but I'll post them anyways:

-Hold shift + Ctrl, left click and drag up or down on midi event(s) to change their velocities
-Hold Ctrl while resising an event (when snap to grid is enabled) to bypass the snap to grid and resise freely (same thing for moving an event)
-This is simple but a lot of people don't know about this, use Grid Relative in the snap to grid panel if you want to move events but keep their starting position.
-when using the Range selection tool, hold Ctrl + Shift to select all tracks
-there's a command called select cursor to end, so if you assign this to a keyboard shortcut and also assign one to split at cursor, you can easily split all files and the select all on the right side of the split to move them
-if you want to delete a section but you want all event after to move where the deleted section is while keeping everything on the grid use the range selection tool while snap to grid is enabled, use the ctrl + shift modifier I talked about to select the part you want to delete (let's say you delete 2 bars), then go to the snap type in the snap to grid panel and change it to shuffle, then press delete. the 2 bars are gone and all event after moved to the left automatically. Don't forget to change the snap type again after tho ;)
-Variaudio shortcuts: press tab to switch between segment and pitch modes, hold ctrl while moving a note to put it perfectly on the pitch, hold shift while moving a note to move it freely
-In mixconsole, alt double click on sends to make the send plugin show up
-Add a Key command to Find track/Channel (in my case it's F) so when I press F I can start typing the name of a track and it will select it ... this is really usefull to find tracks easily in big sessions

I could go on like this but I don't want to clutter the forum ;) I hope this will help some of you
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Re: Tips Tricks And Workflow Goodness.

Postby lukasbrooklyn » Sun Dec 01, 2013 12:39 am

trashdinner wrote:For me, some of the best tips are keyboard shortcut or modifier keys and are not really hidden but I'll post them anyways:

-Hold shift + Ctrl, left click and drag up or down on midi event(s) to change their velocities
-Hold Ctrl while resising an event (when snap to grid is enabled) to bypass the snap to grid and resise freely (same thing for moving an event)
-This is simple but a lot of people don't know about this, use Grid Relative in the snap to grid panel if you want to move events but keep their starting position.
-when using the Range selection tool, hold Ctrl + Shift to select all tracks
-there's a command called select cursor to end, so if you assign this to a keyboard shortcut and also assign one to split at cursor, you can easily split all files and the select all on the right side of the split to move them
-if you want to delete a section but you want all event after to move where the deleted section is while keeping everything on the grid use the range selection tool while snap to grid is enabled, use the ctrl + shift modifier I talked about to select the part you want to delete (let's say you delete 2 bars), then go to the snap type in the snap to grid panel and change it to shuffle, then press delete. the 2 bars are gone and all event after moved to the left automatically. Don't forget to change the snap type again after tho ;)
-Variaudio shortcuts: press tab to switch between segment and pitch modes, hold ctrl while moving a note to put it perfectly on the pitch, hold shift while moving a note to move it freely
-In mixconsole, alt double click on sends to make the send plugin show up
-Add a Key command to Find track/Channel (in my case it's F) so when I press F I can start typing the name of a track and it will select it ... this is really usefull to find tracks easily in big sessions

I could go on like this but I don't want to clutter the forum ;) I hope this will help some of you


i will add to these all these are re-configurable via preferences>editing>tool modifiers, so if any of these don't work at a studio, they may have been configured differently. also, there are some modifier-controlled functions that are not by default assigned to any keyboard keys, so it's worth getting to know what can be done.
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Re: Tips Tricks And Workflow Goodness.

Postby Blerg » Wed Dec 04, 2013 4:49 am

Tip for Drum Templates

We all create one track for each mic on a drum set. I put all these tracks in a folder. Fine. But what happens when you want to punch in a drums set? Well the drums themselves are simple but the overheads, hi hat, and any other cymbal tracks sustain much more than a drum hit does. And you don't want to cut off the staining sounds when you overdub.

To solve this I do the following:
1) Create a folder called "drums"
2) Create a two sub folders under drums called "main" and "aux" respectively
3) Create tracks for your drum mics under the "drums" folder
4) Create a set of tracks for your cymbal mics under the "main" subfolder
5) Create a second set of tracks for your cymbal mics under the "aux" sub folder
6) Route all drum tracks to group tracks. (snare top and bottom to snares, 4 overheads(remember, there are two sets of overhead tracks in this scenario) to an overhead group etc)
7) Add FX to group tracks instead of the main tracks. Mix primarily with the groups.

Main advantage:
When I need to punch in I hit the record enable on the "drums" folder and then disarm record on one of the cymbal sub folders (main or aux) that was recorded just prior to the punch in point. This way, the cymbal sustain from the performance just before the punch in point decays naturally and is mixed in with the new punched in drums and cymbals. Sounds seamless as if it were played in one take.

note: I use two bass drum mics, top and bottom snare mics, 5 tom mics, two hats each with their own mic, a ride mic, two overheads and two room mics. As a result, my groups are bass drums, snares, overheads, hats, rides, all routed to another group called drum sub. Finally there is another group for parallel compression and one for the room mics. I do most of my mixing in the groups rather than the individual tracks.

This has worked well for me. Hope it helps someone else.
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