Cubase Artist 6/7 Comparison (help?)

If you meant Steinberg instead of Sibelius, then yes :slight_smile:

Thanks for the correction !! :wink:

Hi guys,

i just installed my new Cubase Artist 7 (upgrade from Artist 6) into my PC and have some questions please.

The package comes with CD’s containing HALion Sonic and HALion SE. i have both of these already (from Artist 6) on my PC so just to check the obvious, i am assuming i do not need to re-install them ??

i loaded the Cubase Artist 7 CD into my PC, followed all the prompts and it installed in less than 5 x minutes, no problem. However, i can’t seem to FIND it anywhere and have no idea where it may have put it ?? i have never done a upgrade before so maybe i have done something wrong in the installation process ?? i have left Artist 6 on my PC because someome (on here) suggested i do so just incase my old projects (of the past 2 x years) do play in Artist 7 version. Also, last year i downloaded the 28 x day trial Cubase 7 FULL and still have it on my PC. Not sure if that is causing any conflictions ??

And lastly, i registered the new product onto my e-Lisencer (ie with the Activation Code) and also in my ‘My Steinberg’ online account. Whilst there i noticed another one called ‘Soft e-Licenser’ and i do not know what this is ?? Therefore at present i have nothing whatsoever registered to it. Does this matter please ??


USB-eLicenser: 1178305 64F619 eLicenser name OK

Products on this eLicenser: Cubase Artist 7, Groove Agent 3 and 6 other products

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23/11/2013 Cubase Artist 7
23/04/2012 MP3 Upgrade Patch
20/04/2012 HALion Sonic
20/04/2012 Sequel Content Set R’n’B
20/04/2012 VST Sound Loop Set Urban
20/04/2012 Sequel Content Set Smooth House
20/04/2012 Sequel Content Set Electronic Dance
20/04/2012 Groove Agent 3



Soft-eLicenser: 3889137272 1A9162E613 eLicenser name OK

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Many thanks in advance…

Best,

Paul

If the artist 7 license shows on your USB elicenser then it’s fine. The soft licenser is only used for LE/AI/Elements versions of Cubase so if it’s empty that’s fine.
I’m not at my DAW now, but I guess there should be a shortcut to Cubase on your desktop/in your start menu now. It might be called Cubase 7 instead of Cubase Artist 7.

Else look for it in the folder where you installed Cubase to, it should be there. :wink:

Thanks Strophoid,

If the artist 7 license shows on your USB elicenser then it’s fine. The soft licenser is only used for LE/AI/Elements versions of Cubase so if it’s empty that’s fine.

i had no idea what the Soft Licenser was for. Yes, all my products are registered to my USB eLicenser so i will just leave everything as it is.


I’m not at my DAW now, but I guess there should be a shortcut to Cubase on your desktop/in your start menu now. It might be called Cubase 7 instead of Cubase Artist 7.

Yes, i thought it would automatically create a desktop shortcut. What i think has happened (if this makes sense) is that it has overwritten everything which was CUBASE 7 (the FULL trial version) and and left Artist 6 untouched. All my Cubase 7 Trial data has totally vanished !! When i click on the icon which was titled ‘Cubase 7 Trial’ (and is still titled ‘Cubase 7 Trial’) it opens up Artist 7. So what i am saying is, Artist 6 remains as was, but the TRIAL version of Cubase 7 FULL has now disappeared and been replaced be Artist 7.

Else look for it in the folder where you installed Cubase to, it should be there. > :wink:

Thanks, let me know what you think…

Pauk

Interesting, seems like it overwrote at least some of your Cubase 7 trial. That’s not strange because Cubase 7 and Cubase artist 7 are exactly the same, it’s the license that determines which features are available and which aren’t.

The question is, does it work well? Do you have all the presets for plugins for example? If everything is fine, I guess you could just go with it. If you want to be sure, you could also uninstall Cubase 7 completely (both artist and the trial), then pop the disc back in and install Cubase artist 7 again. No need to do the license activation etc again, that’s all done and stored on the USB key. As long as the latest version of the eLCC is installed you can uninstall/reinstall Cubase whenever you like.

Hey Strophoid,

Interesting, seems like it overwrote at least some of your Cubase 7 trial. That’s not strange because Cubase 7 and Cubase artist 7 are exactly the same, it’s the license that determines which features are available and which aren’t.

Yes, exactly. So you are saying that you think it is quite NORMAL for it to overwrite all/some of Cubase 7 Trial because Artist 7 is the SAME and the only differences/features are determined by those which are made available (ie. unlocked) by the Licenser ??


The question is, does it work well? Do you have all the presets for plugins for example? If everything is fine, I guess you could just go with it. If you want to be sure, you could also uninstall Cubase 7 completely (both artist and the trial), then pop the disc back in and install Cubase artist 7 again. No need to do the license activation etc again, that’s all done and stored on the USB key. As long as the latest version of the eLCC is installed you can uninstall/reinstall Cubase whenever you like.

Thank you, i had not thought of doing that. Maybe i should have UNINSTALLED the Cubase 7 Trial before installing Cubase Artist 7. i just took a quick look and none of the extra plug-ins i have are showing (like Waves and the HALion Sonic), but they are showing within Artist 6. :open_mouth:

If i totally UNINSTALL Cubase 7 Trial and Artist 7 then will it affect anything whatsover within Artist 6 ?? i would like to keep Artist 6 onboard if possible.

i hope that i have clearly explained this for you all.

Cheers,

Paul

To be honest I’m not sure what I expected, in fact if you had the cubase 7 trial you didn’t even need to install cubase artist 7, just adding the license to your USB key would allow you to use that install as Cubase artist 7.

Either way, uninstalling cubase 7 shouldn’t harm cubase 6 at all.
I’m not entirely sure what the most efficient method is for getting all your plugins in Cubase 7. For some it probably works if you just copy the .dll files from the VST plugins folder for Cubase 6 to the Cubase 7 folder. I don’t actually know how to go about VST3 plugins, I doubt you need to install them again but I don’t know how to have them show up. Someone else maybe?

Oh, ok. i did not know that at all. Maybe this is where its gone wrong. i wish i had deleted Cubase 7 Trial now beforehand. i think this is where the problem lies.

Obvoiusly when the CD Upgrade Package arrived the logical thing to do was to INSTALL it via the CD !! There was nothing whatsover in the booklet to say that i needed to UNINSTALL any previous or alternative versions of Cubase. The only thing it repeatedly stated loud and clear was that you need to have already purchased, installed and registered Cubase Artist 6.

i just did it and the installation process was quite different (and longer) this time round.

When i open Artist 7 it now opens a lot faster than it did previously.

But it is still coming up EMPTY for the VSTi plug-in’s ?? (though they work fine on Artist 6). :confused:

Ok good, that sounds better :slight_smile:.
As for the VST’s, I’m not sure like I said. VST2 plugins you can simply copy the .dll files over from your cubase 6 folder, vst3 I don’t know about.

Thanks a lot man,

i need to check all this out as i think a few things here need to be configured. i have all sorts of things like ‘Missing Ports’ and similar messages coming up as well now. Maybe, (as you suggested) i can copy the required Folders across from Artist 6 to Artist 7.

But in any case, it is definately on the right track now that i completely unisistalled Cubase 7 Trial.

Paul

Sorted out all the stuff in the DEVICES SET-UP now i think. It used all the default Midi Ports and ASIO Drivers etc, so i just copied what settings i had in Artist 6. i thought maybe all the settings would be automatilly copied but obviously not. Luckily my set-up is quite basic and uncomplicated. :slight_smile:

i will look at copying the VST3 folders over in the morning…

Nice, sorry I forgot to mention you had to redo all your settings and preferences, but you found that out yourself :wink:.
Let me know how you get your plugins available when you figured it out!

Guys,

i can’t remember which is which way round (because it was a couple of years ago), but Artist 6 came with HALion Sonic (or HALion Sonic SE). Soon after, i purchased HALion Sonic SE (or HALion Sonic) to increase my collection of library sounds. As i say, it was a couple of years ago now so i am not quite sure of which way around it was. But in any case, it came loaded with one standard version and i paid for the additional version.

Now that i have upgraded to Artist 7, the only HALion VSTi showing within Cubase (when i open it up) is HALion Sonic SE. i have not loaded any of the HALion CD’s (which came in the Artist 7 box) onto my PC because i assumed they would be already installed in my PC from having being installed by myself a couple of years ago.

Within the Artist 7 package, i have 2 x HALion Sonic discs which are TRIAL VERSIONS, and also 1 x HALion SE Content disc. Neither of these have been loaded because i am assuming they are on my PC already.

If it was HALion Sonic SE which is the DEFAULT library that comes with Cubase, then when you purchase the additional library (HALion Sonic), does it OVERWRITE the originally installed version, or is it a completely seperate library which runs alongside it ?? When i do a SEARCH on my PC it is only showing up with HALion Sonic SE (and not HALion Sonic anywhere ??). But when i open Cubase HALion Sonic SE does NOT appear within in the DEVICES VST INSTRUMENTS (F11) window within a project (only HALion Sonic) ??

As previously mentioned, things have defiinately changed a bit since i installed Artist 7, and so i am trying to get everything up and running the same as it was in Artist 6.

Thanks a lot,

Paul

Interesting. Halion Sonic SE is the basic version that comes with Cubase artist, Halion Sonic is the full product.
If that’s the one you get in Cubase I guess it’s working :wink:

So does one overwrite the other ??

And would you bother to try uninstalling and re-installing the HAlion Sonic and HALion Sonic again ??

Just seems that since i installed Artist 7 things have changed on my PC within Steinberg.

I assume they are separate as I think you are supposed to be able to use Halion Sonic in other DAWs too, which isn’t the case for Halion Sonic SE.
If you have all the content for Halion Sonic in Cubase I woulnd’t bother reinstalling.

Thats great Strophoid !! :mrgreen:

Thanks for explaining these facts.

i obtained some help from a ‘tecky’ friend of mine today and yes you are quite correct, you can use HALion Sonic with other DAW’s but HALion Sonic remains exclusive to Cubase. And therefore they are SEPERATE !! It was my belief that HALion Sonic overwrites HALion Sonic SE, but as discovered, this is not the case.

Regarding the .DLL files, they did indeed need COPYING as you kindly suggested (From Artist 6 to Artist 7).

Now when i click on the DEVICES / VST INSTRUMENT window within Cubase, HALion Sonic appears alongside the larger VSTi’s, and HALion Sonic SE appears in a sub-folder below. So i am keeping HALion Sonic SE software on my PC. And obviously (as you say) i won’t be re-installing the two HALion’s.

WAVES is also now appearing in the afforementioned window.

And finally, i have UNINSTALLED Artist 6 !! i tested a few Artist 6 Projects and they all now play fine in Artist 7.

(btw - what does ‘.dll’ stand for please ??).

Best,

Paul

dll stands for dynamic link library. It’s a Microsoft invention I believe.
A .dll file is basically a program in itself, but without the framework required to run it. In this case the Cubase VST host is the framework that you use to run the .dll files.