Cubase Artist 6/7 Comparison (help?)

Interesting, seems like it overwrote at least some of your Cubase 7 trial. That’s not strange because Cubase 7 and Cubase artist 7 are exactly the same, it’s the license that determines which features are available and which aren’t.

The question is, does it work well? Do you have all the presets for plugins for example? If everything is fine, I guess you could just go with it. If you want to be sure, you could also uninstall Cubase 7 completely (both artist and the trial), then pop the disc back in and install Cubase artist 7 again. No need to do the license activation etc again, that’s all done and stored on the USB key. As long as the latest version of the eLCC is installed you can uninstall/reinstall Cubase whenever you like.

Hey Strophoid,

Interesting, seems like it overwrote at least some of your Cubase 7 trial. That’s not strange because Cubase 7 and Cubase artist 7 are exactly the same, it’s the license that determines which features are available and which aren’t.

Yes, exactly. So you are saying that you think it is quite NORMAL for it to overwrite all/some of Cubase 7 Trial because Artist 7 is the SAME and the only differences/features are determined by those which are made available (ie. unlocked) by the Licenser ??


The question is, does it work well? Do you have all the presets for plugins for example? If everything is fine, I guess you could just go with it. If you want to be sure, you could also uninstall Cubase 7 completely (both artist and the trial), then pop the disc back in and install Cubase artist 7 again. No need to do the license activation etc again, that’s all done and stored on the USB key. As long as the latest version of the eLCC is installed you can uninstall/reinstall Cubase whenever you like.

Thank you, i had not thought of doing that. Maybe i should have UNINSTALLED the Cubase 7 Trial before installing Cubase Artist 7. i just took a quick look and none of the extra plug-ins i have are showing (like Waves and the HALion Sonic), but they are showing within Artist 6. :open_mouth:

If i totally UNINSTALL Cubase 7 Trial and Artist 7 then will it affect anything whatsover within Artist 6 ?? i would like to keep Artist 6 onboard if possible.

i hope that i have clearly explained this for you all.

Cheers,

Paul

To be honest I’m not sure what I expected, in fact if you had the cubase 7 trial you didn’t even need to install cubase artist 7, just adding the license to your USB key would allow you to use that install as Cubase artist 7.

Either way, uninstalling cubase 7 shouldn’t harm cubase 6 at all.
I’m not entirely sure what the most efficient method is for getting all your plugins in Cubase 7. For some it probably works if you just copy the .dll files from the VST plugins folder for Cubase 6 to the Cubase 7 folder. I don’t actually know how to go about VST3 plugins, I doubt you need to install them again but I don’t know how to have them show up. Someone else maybe?

Oh, ok. i did not know that at all. Maybe this is where its gone wrong. i wish i had deleted Cubase 7 Trial now beforehand. i think this is where the problem lies.

Obvoiusly when the CD Upgrade Package arrived the logical thing to do was to INSTALL it via the CD !! There was nothing whatsover in the booklet to say that i needed to UNINSTALL any previous or alternative versions of Cubase. The only thing it repeatedly stated loud and clear was that you need to have already purchased, installed and registered Cubase Artist 6.

i just did it and the installation process was quite different (and longer) this time round.

When i open Artist 7 it now opens a lot faster than it did previously.

But it is still coming up EMPTY for the VSTi plug-in’s ?? (though they work fine on Artist 6). :confused:

Ok good, that sounds better :slight_smile:.
As for the VST’s, I’m not sure like I said. VST2 plugins you can simply copy the .dll files over from your cubase 6 folder, vst3 I don’t know about.

Thanks a lot man,

i need to check all this out as i think a few things here need to be configured. i have all sorts of things like ‘Missing Ports’ and similar messages coming up as well now. Maybe, (as you suggested) i can copy the required Folders across from Artist 6 to Artist 7.

But in any case, it is definately on the right track now that i completely unisistalled Cubase 7 Trial.

Paul

Sorted out all the stuff in the DEVICES SET-UP now i think. It used all the default Midi Ports and ASIO Drivers etc, so i just copied what settings i had in Artist 6. i thought maybe all the settings would be automatilly copied but obviously not. Luckily my set-up is quite basic and uncomplicated. :slight_smile:

i will look at copying the VST3 folders over in the morning…

Nice, sorry I forgot to mention you had to redo all your settings and preferences, but you found that out yourself :wink:.
Let me know how you get your plugins available when you figured it out!

Guys,

i can’t remember which is which way round (because it was a couple of years ago), but Artist 6 came with HALion Sonic (or HALion Sonic SE). Soon after, i purchased HALion Sonic SE (or HALion Sonic) to increase my collection of library sounds. As i say, it was a couple of years ago now so i am not quite sure of which way around it was. But in any case, it came loaded with one standard version and i paid for the additional version.

Now that i have upgraded to Artist 7, the only HALion VSTi showing within Cubase (when i open it up) is HALion Sonic SE. i have not loaded any of the HALion CD’s (which came in the Artist 7 box) onto my PC because i assumed they would be already installed in my PC from having being installed by myself a couple of years ago.

Within the Artist 7 package, i have 2 x HALion Sonic discs which are TRIAL VERSIONS, and also 1 x HALion SE Content disc. Neither of these have been loaded because i am assuming they are on my PC already.

If it was HALion Sonic SE which is the DEFAULT library that comes with Cubase, then when you purchase the additional library (HALion Sonic), does it OVERWRITE the originally installed version, or is it a completely seperate library which runs alongside it ?? When i do a SEARCH on my PC it is only showing up with HALion Sonic SE (and not HALion Sonic anywhere ??). But when i open Cubase HALion Sonic SE does NOT appear within in the DEVICES VST INSTRUMENTS (F11) window within a project (only HALion Sonic) ??

As previously mentioned, things have defiinately changed a bit since i installed Artist 7, and so i am trying to get everything up and running the same as it was in Artist 6.

Thanks a lot,

Paul

Interesting. Halion Sonic SE is the basic version that comes with Cubase artist, Halion Sonic is the full product.
If that’s the one you get in Cubase I guess it’s working :wink:

So does one overwrite the other ??

And would you bother to try uninstalling and re-installing the HAlion Sonic and HALion Sonic again ??

Just seems that since i installed Artist 7 things have changed on my PC within Steinberg.

I assume they are separate as I think you are supposed to be able to use Halion Sonic in other DAWs too, which isn’t the case for Halion Sonic SE.
If you have all the content for Halion Sonic in Cubase I woulnd’t bother reinstalling.

Thats great Strophoid !! :mrgreen:

Thanks for explaining these facts.

i obtained some help from a ‘tecky’ friend of mine today and yes you are quite correct, you can use HALion Sonic with other DAW’s but HALion Sonic remains exclusive to Cubase. And therefore they are SEPERATE !! It was my belief that HALion Sonic overwrites HALion Sonic SE, but as discovered, this is not the case.

Regarding the .DLL files, they did indeed need COPYING as you kindly suggested (From Artist 6 to Artist 7).

Now when i click on the DEVICES / VST INSTRUMENT window within Cubase, HALion Sonic appears alongside the larger VSTi’s, and HALion Sonic SE appears in a sub-folder below. So i am keeping HALion Sonic SE software on my PC. And obviously (as you say) i won’t be re-installing the two HALion’s.

WAVES is also now appearing in the afforementioned window.

And finally, i have UNINSTALLED Artist 6 !! i tested a few Artist 6 Projects and they all now play fine in Artist 7.

(btw - what does ‘.dll’ stand for please ??).

Best,

Paul

dll stands for dynamic link library. It’s a Microsoft invention I believe.
A .dll file is basically a program in itself, but without the framework required to run it. In this case the Cubase VST host is the framework that you use to run the .dll files.

i believe Steinberg are releasing Artist 7.5 free update for lucky customers like myself who purchased Artist 7 within the 'Grace Period.

i am not sure about something though :-

Regarding HALion Sonic 2, does the Artist 7.5 include this for free ?? Or, if i want to update from HALion Sonic to HALion Sonic 2, do i still need to PURCHASE this (82GBP) ?? In other words, does HALion Sonic 2 come with the Artist 7.5 update for FREE ?? :confused:

Thanks a lot…

We’re very excited to introduce Cubase 7.5, the latest update to Steinberg’s acclaimed music production system, featuring proven and brand-new tools of the trade.


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Start the eLicenser Control Center, found under Start/Programs/ eLicenser on a Windows PC or in the Applications folder of Mac OS X. Click on the “Maintenance” button. Your license will then be replaced by a HALion 5/HALion Sonic 2 license and the Steinberg Grace Period site will be opened.

I think you may be confusing HALion Sonic 2 with HALion Sonic SE 2.

Thanks Jaslan,

Yes, i got it mixed up thank you !!

So with currently owning both HALion Sonic SE and HALion Sonic :-

Will the addition of HALion Sonic SE 2 actually make any difference to my library ?? :confused:

Ta,

Paul

According to the description, HSSE 2 will have some new sounds. My GUESS is that those will also work in HALion Sonic 2 (and HALion 5, for that matter). I believe this because, in the previous versions, the HSSE libraries also loaded in HALion Sonic and HALion.

Thanks Jaslan,

So will the download/installation therefore create a NEW folder of samples on my PC for usage with Cubase (so i would then have THREE seperate choices of VSTi’s to use in the DEVICES window) :-

HALion Sonic SE, HALion Soinic and HALion Sonic 2 ??

Or would the HALion Sonic SE2 be ‘merged’ with the regular HALion Sonic ??

Thanks a lot…

Paul