Steinberg's dongle alternative coming

Coming from someone so knowledgeable in the field that conclusion seems rather simplistic.

Would it really? I mean, if people are having problems with the current ones, to the point of having to replace them, then wouldn’t better assembly and casings be cheaper in the long run? (At least for them.) I’d rather pay triple the price and having ten times tougher a dongle! :wink:

I have never had any problems with mine, but I wouldn’t mind a much smaller (shorter, as in not sticking out so much) and if I dropped it, I would just smile because it was all titanium. Help me protect my licenses! :slight_smile:

I find that the gen 2 iLoks seem more robust than the eLicenser, and they come with a little cap for protection. Besides, iLok has ZDT and with the new Loss and Theft option, it seems a much better system than eLicenser at the moment.

DG

Wrap key in some silly putty and have fun bouncing it around.

Aloha E,

Had the same thoughts but then realized;

Can we Cubase users get a blank dongle from
BestBuy or RadioShack or MonoPrice etc?

Don’t think so.

AFAIK we can only get a blank replacement dongle from Steiny.

So if and when your dongle starts packing its bags to head south,
there is only one game in town.

That being said;
I just can’t see Yamaha/Steinberg make a lot of $$$
from selling blank dongles, but however small the Cubase DAW base,
Yamyberg or Steinha do have this corner of the market sewn up.

So like many others I just gaffer tape the f*ck out of it,
(I leave a lil hole so I can make sure the red LED lights up)
put it on my keyring and bob’s yer uncle’.

IMHO
Users would be wise to have a spare (they are not too expensive) hanging around just in case;
and for mobile pros a total 2nd license would also be good insurance.
Pass the cost on to yer clients.
{‘-’}

For my real job, I have a 8 year old Sandisk 8 gb Cruzer thumb drive with a slide out connector on my key ring. It looks no different than the dongle except for the slide out connector…

That thing gets the s#!t beat out of it 6 days a week and has a backup of our accounting file on it. It is a critical backup. My dongle only sits in my desktop rear USB slot and has fallen apart several times. Someone here mentioned it fell on carpet and came apart…so did mine

No argument on how the Cubase security works only that if the license has such a value,give us an opportunity to preserve it. My wireless USB keyboard and mouse receiver stick out only 1/4".

I know this has been said over and over again but, WTF…can one more time hurt? Yep, I have a spare un opened for the last 4 years

Dongles delicate? Nonsense. You can drive a tank over any plastic dongle and it will still work. Besides if Steinberg had a software key and PROtools had a dongle I’d say the same voices would be heard clamouring for a dongle.
If Cubase is unusable… It’s YOU. The guys that can’t cope with a dongle and keep losing their housekeys (with dongle attached) or letting it fall out of their pocket or have it stolen because it’s right there ready to go…
As far as I can tell Cubase is a lot older than most of the complainers here. This means that the dongle has a reliable history. Users aren’t losing dongles in droves otherwise it would make the daily news. Which means that there’s about three people who are really unhappy with the arrangement.
I’d rather trust Steinberg’s security than some kid (ex-kid even) on the net who thinks an old joke is a new idea. :mrgreen:

And was an independent company.

Mauri.

  1. I hate the dongle, bought some software that doesn’t need it… making more music live. Cool

Still love and use Cubase on the desktop.

Not to stir the pot, but several companies that use the iLok have recently announced they are going to give users the option of iLok or authorization to a hard drive. One is VI Labs, makers of True Key Pianos, and the other is GospelMusicians, makers of the Neo Soul Keys products. Both of these companies are utilizing the UVi engine so maybe it is related to that platform/engine only. But my question is, if it can be done for iLok owners, why not us? Just wondering. There may be valid reasons why it cannot, but I’d like to hear them.

I have no problem with the dongle, but it would be nice to have the choice of maybe purchasing a much more “durable” dongle. Like something made out of brushed aluminum, or something similar.

Dongles?
I need more Dongles!!
I LOVE colorful Dongles!!!
Very nice on christmas trees (tip!)
:mrgreen:

lol :sunglasses:

Aren’t dongles those macabre trophys the Predator used to hang about?
:confused:

Agree - they came to the realization it was bad for sales - period.

This is my point in all these DONGLE discussions - it’s supposed to protect or encourage the monetary investment for the developer… well what if no-one is buying in any case??

The market dictates - simple - if more users are on laptops than 5 years ago - change the policy/technology to keep trend or simply watch the business fade away

Let’s ask this - why do you have no problem? What do you believe are the benefits for you?

I look forward to there being no dongle… and then for all the posts screaming for it to be brought back.
When you can’t remember all those numbers and passwords. When you’re out recording on your lappy with “clients”. (clients was an old English newspaper term for men who visited houses of ill repute) :slight_smile:

Have you all actually thought about the alternative?
If you have to go out with your DAW (outDAWs I suppose) there are cases (that also double as a computer desk/rest) where things like dongles on extenders can be stashed out of sight.
After all Steinberg are doing so much for us I’m starting to think of them as a nanny company. :laughing:

Sure, here’s an example. I posted a link to a free VST from NI the other day. In order for it to work, I have to use the NI service center that came packed with the VST. OK, no prob, I’ll open it an enter my key. FAIL!. It’s says I don’t have an internet connection. OK, I uninstalled it, grab the service center installer from NI’s site. Run it, it connects to the internet, updates itself. It then runs again, FAIL! It tells me I have no internet connection. Now how is that possible if it just updated itself from the internet. I have tried everything I can think of to make it work, to no avail. What is weird is, it works fine on my work PC, but not my home PC. At least with a dongle I can reg it on another PC and be done.

I understand and accept that the dongle is not a good solution for some users.
Given that SB needs to protect their software by some means, there are some users that actually prefer the dongle as the method to do so. There are also some users that don’t really care and don’t MIND the dongle because it works and is not a hassle FOR THOSE USERS.

Would the users that are against the dongle please stop trying to convince those that prefer it or those that don’t mind it that they SHOULD be against the dongle in order to further their own campaign against it?