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Re: So 7.5 is here (almost)

Postby Rhino » Sat Nov 30, 2013 12:02 am

forthwith wrote:
JMCecil wrote:I hope to hell tje keycommand focus issues are addressed.


For those who use them, yes.


Couldn't agree more ! 8-)
Same as with cars, some know how to use the keys, some don't. :lol:
What group are you in, if I may ask ? ;)

Re 7.5, to carry the car analogy further :
It all depends - if using the keys finally works again, we'll get a chance to inspect all the shiny new features inside and hopefully like them ...

Does anybody know if there's a demo mode in 7.5 (24 hrs would be enough) ?
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Re: So 7.5 is here (almost)

Postby Infinite Beat » Sat Nov 30, 2013 12:24 am

Some nice new features!
Wonder if I can expect my Mackie Control fader bank buttons to work now? Worked great until C7.
Not a huge deal but annoying.

Fingers crossed also for a bit better stability in OSX.
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Re: So 7.5 is here (almost)

Postby forthwith » Sat Nov 30, 2013 12:40 am

Bredo wrote:I really hope there are some, for now, undocumented fixes/changes. There usually are some.


After the constant ramblings of so-called experts for so long, do you really think that Steinberg would note changes on their website that directly co-relate to complaints/ranting etc.?
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Re: So 7.5 is here (almost)

Postby forthwith » Sat Nov 30, 2013 12:43 am

G-string wrote:bought sx ,stayed on sx till sx3 and then c5 ,c6 ,c7 and I think i'll wait and see what happens in the next few versions as ive got everything I need . ;-)


If you purchased C7, then there is nothing to complain about is there
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Re: So 7.5 is here (almost)

Postby GalleyTeapot » Sat Nov 30, 2013 12:43 am

Nice, I get the update for free!
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Re: So 7.5 is here (almost)

Postby orchetect » Sat Nov 30, 2013 12:44 am

Infinite Beat wrote:Fingers crossed also for a bit better stability in OSX.


+1 Hopeful but not holding my breath.
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Re: So 7.5 is here (almost)

Postby spinlud » Sat Nov 30, 2013 12:45 am

I specially appreciated the update for groove agent and the drum map integration, this will "really" speed up my workflow.

The reverb and magneto are nice additions, but for me steinberg shouldn't lost energy on release new plugins like these...at 90% everyone got its 3rd part 'goto' saturation plugin and reverb, so they are not so important.

One thing i don't understand is the rack instruments...what's the differences between the old one and the new one, a part the quick controls integration (i like that..these are the things that producers need!) ?
Could someone explain me the difference?

Thanks in advance
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Re: So 7.5 is here (almost)

Postby patcub » Sat Nov 30, 2013 12:46 am

Looking at this update more deeply, I have to admit Steinberg did a great job with this update. I was expecting other improvements so I was a little bit disappointed at first. But SB brings major additions to cubase, and it's fair to pay for it. I'm really impressed with groove agent se4, the instrument racks seems nice, track version and loopmash FX might be useful too.

Now I'm waiting for an improved way to convert tracks to audio (bounce in place or whatever), multiple track freezing, macro controls like Ableton live, colored tracks in the mixer and a way to route LFO and enveloppes to any parameter of a track, effect or instrument.

Anyway I'm a happy customer, thanks Steinberg, and keep on the good work.
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Re: So 7.5 is here (almost)

Postby theother » Sat Nov 30, 2013 12:49 am

patcub wrote:Nice update. But I'm too a little bit disappointed. I would like to see more workflow improvements and new features, rather than more VSTi's and plugins that we all already have. Reverb? Saturation? Really?? What´s next? A buss compressor? :lol:

Anyway a lot of features have been asked by users : tab to transient, playlists... So we can't complain too much.


I agree. Stop introducing plugins we already have that do a better job too. There is so much nonsense in Cubase that no one needs. Improve the workflow and essentials like VCA groups, colouring in mixer.
And who needs the track version feature? I'd rather copy the track and mute the one I don't use. That way I can 'see' what the difference is. Maybe I like it when I see it, but I doubt it. Doesn't sound like a huge time saver.

And if loopmash does not work on groups or master channels I have no use for it. What's the point having it on audio only? Are you guys sure it works only on audio tracks? I needs to work like dblue Glitch or Effetrix. Otherwise what's the point?
Steinberg has to stop adding things that already exist in a superior way. Only bring them in if they are better or at least par. Otherwise focus on the core features and improve them. Not adding things. Making existing things better. That's what I would like.

I will wait a bit with the update this time after the last v7 debacle. I don't trust Steinberg anymore... I need to work on my machine every day...

I do like ProTools meters also better. Not a fan of Cubase meters.
And another reverb? really?

With Ableton it's a bit different. All the included plugins have a very interesting sound that instantly makes me go wow!
I'm not using Ableton anymore, but Cubase plugins don't have the wow factor for me. So why have them at all? Same with synths, drum machines and samplers/samples. they don't have the instant gratification factor. at least for me...

loopmash looked good, but if it won't work on groups I have no use for it. Otherwise I don't see anything appealing, I'm sorry...

having said all that, I'm a happy Cubase user. Just adding my 2C to make it better for me.
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Re: So 7.5 is here (almost)

Postby patcub » Sat Nov 30, 2013 12:52 am

spinlud wrote:One thing i don't understand is the rack instruments...what's the differences between the old one and the new one, a part the quick controls integration (i like that..these are the things that producers need!) ?
Could someone explain me the difference?

Thanks in advance


I think it's a redesigned version with quick controls accessible right there. Also the way you toggle on/off the multiple outputs seems better now.

If we could have macro quick controls, where you could group several parameters to one knob with a way to control the depth for each parameter, now that would be awesome. Not in C7.5 though.
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Re: So 7.5 is here (almost)

Postby Outsounder » Sat Nov 30, 2013 12:53 am

Updates and upgrades are always welcome, provided they work! But what if the same beta testers used for C7 have been on the job....? Doesn't do much to inspire confidence

The potential problems with this release is that if it has as many bugs and flaws in the newly designed arrange/edit page has C7 had/still has in the MC then the focus of any incremental updates would presumably be on those new features - leaving a whole raft of issues from the MC and other areas overshadowed and unresolved for the foreseeable future.

It would be appreciated if some one from SB could post a list of (any) resolved workflow issues with the MC as well as any new features.
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Re: So 7.5 is here (almost)

Postby The Parlanchin » Sat Nov 30, 2013 12:54 am

Infinite Beat wrote:Some nice new features!
Wonder if I can expect my Mackie Control fader bank buttons to work now? Worked great until C7.
Not a huge deal but annoying.

Fingers crossed also for a bit better stability in OSX.


I agree... new features are nice, but fixes (like mcu functionality) and overall stability are more welcome.
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Re: So 7.5 is here (almost)

Postby patcub » Sat Nov 30, 2013 12:58 am

theother wrote:And if loopmash does not work on groups or master channels I have no use for it. What's the point having it on audio only? Are you guys sure it works only on audio tracks? I needs to work like dblue Glitch or Effetrix.


It doesn't work on group tracks? that kinda sucks...
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Re: So 7.5 is here (almost)

Postby spinlud » Sat Nov 30, 2013 12:59 am

patcub wrote:
spinlud wrote:One thing i don't understand is the rack instruments...what's the differences between the old one and the new one, a part the quick controls integration (i like that..these are the things that producers need!) ?
Could someone explain me the difference?

Thanks in advance


I think it's a redesigned version with quick controls accessible right there. Also the way you toggle on/off the multiple outputs seems better now.

If we could have macro quick controls, where you could group several parameters to one knob with a way to control the depth for each parameter, now that would be awesome. Not in C7.5 though.


Yes, ableton macro controls and real instruments racks (layering) are the best things steinberg can add to cubase, IMO. If they will, i'll cry a whole night ^___^

Ah and bounce in place also, please .___.
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Re: So 7.5 is here (almost)

Postby forthwith » Sat Nov 30, 2013 1:01 am

theother wrote:
patcub wrote:Nice update. But I'm too a little bit disappointed. I would like to see more workflow improvements and new features, rather than more VSTi's and plugins that we all already have. Reverb? Saturation? Really?? What´s next? A buss compressor? :lol:


I agree. [..] Just adding my 2C to make it better for me.


Remember the upcoming generation of users require value-add in order to purchase, which in turn means more money for bug fixes so it is not a case of either or.

In fact SB are known for forging partnerships with 3rd party developers who make both instruments and effects so this is nothing new.
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Re: So 7.5 is here (almost)

Postby patcub » Sat Nov 30, 2013 1:06 am

spinlud wrote:
patcub wrote:
spinlud wrote:One thing i don't understand is the rack instruments...what's the differences between the old one and the new one, a part the quick controls integration (i like that..these are the things that producers need!) ?
Could someone explain me the difference?

Thanks in advance


I think it's a redesigned version with quick controls accessible right there. Also the way you toggle on/off the multiple outputs seems better now.

If we could have macro quick controls, where you could group several parameters to one knob with a way to control the depth for each parameter, now that would be awesome. Not in C7.5 though.


Yes, ableton macro controls and real instruments racks (layering) are the best things steinberg can add to cubase, IMO. If they will, i'll cry a whole night ^___^

Ah and bounce in place also, please .___.


Exactly!!
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Re: So 7.5 is here (almost)

Postby distante » Sat Nov 30, 2013 1:13 am

mozizo wrote:
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distante wrote:If the upgrade is $50...maybe...


and do you know what your getting for this €49's ????


steinbergs mugs and bugs ? ;)
seriously what do u mean ? the new features/plugins are presented on the videos. maybe there are other issue fixes and little enhancements not shown on this vids but will be listed soon as in every update !?


Again if $50...
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Re: So 7.5 is here (almost)

Postby DaDa » Sat Nov 30, 2013 2:14 am

I saw it coming ...

Well maybe V8 or V9 will get back, where 6.5 is right now.
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And besides the still unusable mixer ... the plugin manager is still not ready ...
Guess I have to look into that 'hex editor hacking' ...

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Re: So 7.5 is here (almost)

Postby ♫♪♫♪ » Sat Nov 30, 2013 3:01 am

patcub wrote:
theother wrote:And if loopmash does not work on groups or master channels I have no use for it. What's the point having it on audio only? Are you guys sure it works only on audio tracks? I needs to work like dblue Glitch or Effetrix.


It doesn't work on group tracks? that kinda sucks...

Maybe for you guys they should add Noobmash in the next update :mrgreen:
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Re: So 7.5 is here (almost)

Postby jaslan » Sat Nov 30, 2013 4:11 am

All of this socialist banter about greed and paid .5 versions is tiring.

The name of the version is semantics. If they called it Cubase 8 what argument would be used then?

The "greed" of someone wanting to be paid more for their product is no worse than the "greed" of someone else who wants to pay less for that product.
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Re: So 7.5 is here (almost)

Postby trashdinner » Sat Nov 30, 2013 4:19 am

Hey Luis (or anybody else at Steinberg) Could you confirm the 49.99$ US upgrade price and will we have a 50$ rebate on the Cubase 8 upgrade if we upgrade to 7.5 (like it was with C7) Amazgin Upgrade!!! I can't wait to see the list of fixes ...
Here's what I'm hoping for:

-Focus issue fix
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-inserts are a different color when they are up front

I still hope for VCA, Mono/Stereo button on each channels, the ability to move the channels in the mixconsole, a plugin editor, and option for natural variaudio notes transition ... but maybe in Cubase 8. Thx for your great work!!
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Re: So 7.5 is here (almost)

Postby vintagevibe » Sat Nov 30, 2013 4:48 am

jaslan wrote:All of this socialist banter about greed and paid .5 versions is tiring.

The name of the version is semantics. If they called it Cubase 8 what argument would be used then?

The "greed" of someone wanting to be paid more for their product is no worse than the "greed" of someone else who wants to pay less for that product.


Greed is socialism? Right.
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Re: So 7.5 is here (almost)

Postby jaslan » Sat Nov 30, 2013 4:51 am

vintagevibe wrote:Greed is socialism?

Not even close to what I said.
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Re: So 7.5 is here (almost)

Postby vintagevibe » Sat Nov 30, 2013 4:56 am

"the "greed" of someone else who wants to pay less for that product."

So those are the socialist that believe companies shouldn't make money? I totally agree with the point of your post but the socialism thing is kind of ridiculous.
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Re: So 7.5 is here (almost)

Postby jonsolo » Sat Nov 30, 2013 5:02 am

vintagevibe wrote:"the "greed" of someone else who wants to pay less for that product."

So those are the socialist that believe companies shouldn't make money? I totally agree with the point of your post but the socialism thing is kind of ridiculous.


That is not how I read it.

I THOUGHT he meant he was tired of the socialist comments towards a corporation's "greed". And I agree with that. I am tired of it too. People gotta get paid, corporation or not.
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