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Re: So 7.5 is here (almost)

Postby papi61 » Sun Dec 01, 2013 10:25 pm

More Cowbell wrote:Windows management will.be resolved in cubase 8 for example.


Windows management will be resolved in the next version. Yeah, I've heard that since version 5... :roll:
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Re: So 7.5 is here (almost)

Postby SteveInChicago » Sun Dec 01, 2013 10:27 pm

More Cowbell wrote: Windows management will.be resolved in cubase 8 for example.
That would be cool. Where did you hear/read that?
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Re: So 7.5 is here (almost)

Postby papi61 » Sun Dec 01, 2013 10:41 pm

Mrhehon wrote:
I’m 54 and I’m not a DJ or beatzmaker as you put it but I know many as I do classical musicians and one is as skilled as the other. Do you realise how arrogant as well as ignorant that made you sound.


All I said is that DJ's and "beatzmakers" don't actually make music, they just rearrange someone else's loops. Factual. They might be very skilled at that, but in my book, they're not "musicians." In other words, apples and oranges. If that makes me sound arrogant to your ears, so be it. Do you have any idea how many years of study and practice it takes to become a good classical (or jazz) musician? And you think a DJ is just as skilled as a musician? Seriously?
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Re: So 7.5 is here (almost)

Postby forthwith » Sun Dec 01, 2013 10:52 pm

DJ's have a place in modern contemporary (classical) music, as a visual feature or backdrop to a genuine musical performance.
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Re: So 7.5 is here (almost)

Postby dr4kan » Sun Dec 01, 2013 11:14 pm

papi61 wrote:
Mrhehon wrote:
I’m 54 and I’m not a DJ or beatzmaker as you put it but I know many as I do classical musicians and one is as skilled as the other. Do you realise how arrogant as well as ignorant that made you sound.


All I said is that DJ's and "beatzmakers" don't actually make music, they just rearrange someone else's loops. Factual. They might be very skilled at that, but in my book, they're not "musicians." In other words, apples and oranges. If that makes me sound arrogant to your ears, so be it. Do you have any idea how many years of study and practice it takes to become a good classical (or jazz) musician? And you think a DJ is just as skilled as a musician? Seriously?


I basically agree that it's factual. Every teenager with a computer and few plugs pretends to be a musician just because he can sync few loops. Give him a piano and ask for a jazz song...
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Re: So 7.5 is here (almost)

Postby forthwith » Sun Dec 01, 2013 11:41 pm

At the end of the day, music has to make money like Steinberg. If you don't make money making music then you need a job instead.
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Re: So 7.5 is here (almost)

Postby f.e » Mon Dec 02, 2013 12:16 am

Track playlist : seems video track is missing this cool new feature. I'm sure you keep it for Nuendo and it sucks big time.
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Re: So 7.5 is here (almost)

Postby orchetect » Mon Dec 02, 2013 12:18 am

f.e wrote:Track playlist : seems video track is missing this cool new feature. I'm sure you keep it for Nuendo and it sucks big time.


Seems missing for the Marker track too, which is where I could REALLY use it. Sadly, yet another Nuendo-only feature.
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Re: So 7.5 is here (almost)

Postby trashdinner » Mon Dec 02, 2013 12:20 am

Enough with the Musician, DJ, Engeneer Debate :S Also, has anybody ever been impressed by another user bragging about what diploma, years of experience he has or who he worked with in the past? People always hate that and most of time they will take you less seriously. What's beautiful about Cubase is that there are amazing features for everybody ... Engeneers, musicians, DJs, newbies, old timers, superstar and has been. Peace out guys!
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Re: So 7.5 is here (almost)

Postby mozizo » Mon Dec 02, 2013 12:28 am

orchetect wrote:
f.e wrote:Track playlist : seems video track is missing this cool new feature. I'm sure you keep it for Nuendo and it sucks big time.


Seems missing for the Marker track too, which is where I could REALLY use it. Sadly, yet another Nuendo-only feature.


track playlist can be very useful for tempo and time signature tracks too.. hope it is with C7.5 and if not for the next update !
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Re: So 7.5 is here (almost)

Postby BriHar » Mon Dec 02, 2013 12:40 am

So, I guess there's still no printed manual :|
...yes I think it can be easily done, just take everything down to Highway 61.

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Re: So 7.5 is here (almost)

Postby paolobale » Mon Dec 02, 2013 1:36 am

forthwith wrote:
paolobale wrote:...as per example an issue I found from the 6, never resolved:
"waiting for video service", than the video don't work anymore till you close and re start cubase.
do you have quicktime installed?


Yes, I have it.

suntower wrote:Junior Member. Senior Troll. One wonders the attraction of reincarnating over and over to provide this <cough> 'public service'.


Sorry, I can't follow your meaning. Try again please and make me grow up. :geek:

digifot wrote:I think that they aim to make Cubase not only the top DAW (which in my opinion it already is), but the uncontested top DAW. I must say that in view of their historical good results I trust them and I wish them every success.


I'm pretty sure they plan this. They have a great competition. Logic for example.
I'm not happy they do an half major release with a "short grace period", the 7 release have a lot of issues not resolved. Anyway, hope this "rent" give me some satisfactions.
I'm happy on CB, from the 4th release, but you know how hard is to learn how to use a new DAW, so before to change your flow you think twice if have sense but, I don't buy Steinberg Hardware so I'm pretty free to use some new and learn, so if Steinberg do not work hard for me, I'm free to leave it on my pocket and use a new daw.

What hurt me is to pay the 7.5 and may be also the 8 next time. Not necessary, I know.
Never mind.
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Re: So 7.5 is here (almost)

Postby Julia M » Mon Dec 02, 2013 2:07 am

I haven't been on for a long time. Like about since May. They deleted my account. You haven't seen me because I haven't had anything to complain about. I've even missed out on the update to 7.0.6. I'm still running 7.0.2. It's been stable as a rock. If it's not broke, don't fix it and all that you know... So I thought I'd check in and see what's up. And 7.5? I just watched the video. Holy f****** s*** bird. :lol: :oops: Sorry for my language, but this update looks great.
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Re: So 7.5 is here (almost)

Postby JMCecil » Mon Dec 02, 2013 2:31 am

I'm not sure how posting a video of a guy playing a song that has probably been written 4000 times and could be written/played by pretty much any grammar school piano student is an argument for the guys talent.
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Re: So 7.5 is here (almost)

Postby jose7822 » Mon Dec 02, 2013 2:41 am

JMCecil wrote:
paolobale wrote:Some one can tell me where is the "So 7.5 is here (almost)" thread? :roll:

It will take a lot of talent to find it ... :mrgreen:


Nice, lol. :mrgreen:
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Re: So 7.5 is here (almost)

Postby knuckle47 » Mon Dec 02, 2013 2:47 am

Some debate...whew. This does, however re-ignite an argument I had with myself as to whether or not I was using the right software in Cubase all along since 2004. I am from a generation where music came out of instruments only if you actually played them. There was no such thing as pressing a button and getting a saxophone. Subsequently, as much guitar as I play..and as much training as I may have taken, everything will just need to sound like....Guitar? I might enjoy making loops do something really cool, but I read music, not manuals :lol:
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Re: So 7.5 is here (almost)

Postby uarte » Mon Dec 02, 2013 4:16 am

I came here to this thread to get info on 7.5 and I find this eruption of OT posts. It reminds me of the "old days" of the old Cubase forum, which could get pretty unpleasant if any of you remember.

For those that care about this exchange about musical training (or not) and DJs, etc., can you *please* and respectfully take it to a new thread? And for those that are offended by one perspective or another, can you *please* refrain from contributing to the decline of this thread?

I just had a few questions about 7.5 -- not sure if these have been answered already since I don't have the patience to wade through the past several pages of way-off-topic posts:

1) Did anyone confirm the price? If so, did anyone confirm the US price?

2) Did anyone confirm if 7.5 is compatible out of the gate with OSX 10.9 Mavericks? Or will we still need to run that extra little utility that Steinberg posted?

3) Has anyone asked (and has Steinberg responded) if 7.5 breaks any Steinberg hardware drivers? :) When 7.0.0 was released, I was shocked at how Steinberg's own hardware had issues... hoping that nothing similar happens with 7.5.

4) Has there been a bugfix list released yet?

Thanks in advance!
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Re: So 7.5 is here (almost)

Postby orchetect » Mon Dec 02, 2013 4:23 am

uarte wrote:2) Did anyone confirm if 7.5 is compatible out of the gate with OSX 10.9 Mavericks? Or will we still need to run that extra little utility that Steinberg posted?

Product page says OS X 10.8/10.9 compatible:
http://www.steinberg.net/en/products/cu ... loads.html

uarte wrote:4) Has there been a bugfix list released yet?

No. Steinberg support has said it may be posted upon 7.5's release.
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Re: So 7.5 is here (almost)

Postby sonicstate » Mon Dec 02, 2013 9:10 am

Why should one waste years studying instruments, if one can do music just fine with chord track and virtual drummers and such. After all, music is for fun. If you get fun out of loops and phrases, why not?
I bet most Cubase users are not pros, but people who do music for hobby, for fun. Which doesn't mean they don't take it seriously. They just don't make big buck out of it.
Actually, btw, those who use Cubase to make money should never complain about prices - even one session should cover your Cubase license. If it doesn't, that is not really pro. Pro means profession, profit. For pros Cubase is dirt cheap. But for hobbyists it is quite expensive. Those who complain about price are not pros, even one microphone costs more than Cubase license, and what can you do with one mic anyway... I dare saying that Cubase is hobby software, which is being used by pros too, at their own risk.
For hobby fun, Cubase is very capable and quite stable, and I like the direction it is going in, chord track and virtual musicians and so on. Using Cubase makes you feel you have a good machine in your hands, makes you feel like a real pro :)
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Re: So 7.5 is here (almost)

Postby Rocksteady1982 » Mon Dec 02, 2013 9:20 am

And still no multitrack freewarp... Unbeleiveable.
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Re: So 7.5 is here (almost)

Postby ninjafreddan » Mon Dec 02, 2013 9:35 am

sonicstate wrote:I dare saying that Cubase is hobby software, which is being used by pros too, at their own risk.

Okay, so Hans Zimmer is using a hobby software to compose his epic and technically rather intricate music? In his MASSIVE spare no expenses production lair!
I dare say that Cubase is the only software advanced enough to keep up with his production demands - VST Expression, excellent 5.1 support and I'm sure he's having fun using the Chord Track to throw a whole arrangement in a different direction by just changing the chord progression (he can even reuse old stuff at a click of a button should he run out of inspiration and no one would notice).

sonicstate wrote:For hobby fun, Cubase is very capable and quite stable, and I like the direction it is going in, chord track and virtual musicians and so on. Using Cubase makes you feel you have a good machine in your hands, makes you feel like a real pro :)

There you go! ;-) And there's a reason that you feel that way...Cubase is a professional DAW!

Regarding the discussion of talent or no talent in today's music, one thing comes to mind when looking at successful artists. The same goes to any successful business really...and it is ambition!

Either you have it or you don't!

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PS. Looking forward to pay for the 7.5 update, it looks promising. ;-)
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Re: So 7.5 is here (almost)

Postby Marcus » Mon Dec 02, 2013 11:40 am

It is moderated......and it is now


locked...

This is not a discussion anymore and far away from the topic.

Best regards,

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*Edit*

After deleting the offtopic things, I have reopended it again.

@ all guys stay at the topic, last and only warning
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Re: So 7.5 is here (almost)

Postby Svenne » Mon Dec 02, 2013 12:50 pm

Thanx Marcus

For all those who want conformation regarding the cost of the upgrade. If you can't wait for the official release, the day after tomorrow, there is a "trick" you could try. Go to the web-site of your favorite store(s) and check if they started advertising it yet. As far as I can see, it seems like €49 is right in the ballpark.
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Re: So 7.5 is here (almost)

Postby mart » Mon Dec 02, 2013 12:51 pm

The New workflow optimisations look good are very welcome to me including hiding tracks in the editor and playlist implementation.

What strikes me over the past few years with cubase though is the lack of focus on the product. Every update seems to try and cater for an extremely broad spectrum of potential customer
... the bedroom producer who doesnt play an instrument, a synth enthusiast, sound designers, for the project recording studio, for the pro studio, for mixers, for score writers, etc etc.... This is a weakness in my opinion as the product is falling between all stools. Is it a Pro product or is is a gimmick product... ? When SX was first released I remember thinking " YES! Finally this is a professional product on the rise"
With recent features like Chord tracks, lack lustre fx and more and more synths (do we really need more synths?) The progression of the product is diluted back to the gimmick status.

Heres the issue then ....For the amateur gimmick person Cubase is too complex...
For the professional user cubase is missing key features (eg Grouping organisation, better Templating, Multitrack Warp thats useable). It also gets the reputation of not a pro product - which it generally is.

Where do you think Cubase is headed or should be headed?
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Re: So 7.5 is here (almost)

Postby cmaffia » Mon Dec 02, 2013 12:59 pm

The v7 to v7.5 upgrade seems to offer A LOT more than the v6 to v6.5 did for the same amount of money so stop your complaining about cost! Steinberg is a great company so stop your b itching regarding this matter! Also, no software is perfect..not ProTools, not Reaper, etc. I truly believe those users who can't use v7.0 are in the EXTREME minority and more than likely it is an issue specific to their machine or setup....either that or they are so extremely anal that they want perfection tailored to them and therefore will NEVER EVER accept any version. Logic dictates that if everyone's version was crashing or was so instable then Steinberg would be in serious trouble as a company...don't think so. It's funny how everyone forgets the past versions that were actually more unstable.. but eventually they were fixed!

What software gives you so many incredible VST instruments and quality plugins? You haters don't realize how much "bang for the buck" you are getting from Steinberg. If that makes Cubase a toy then I am using a #$#%$% amazing toy.
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