Groove Agent SE4 is great!

up to 8 layers on a clap/snare/hats is a god send

Kool thread! Looking forward to using C7.5
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I think, many users would be interested to know, if the following features are implemented in GrooveAgent SE:

  1. Is it now possible to assign samples via a dropdown list (like in Padshop), or do you still have to drag’n’drop them from media bay?

  2. Is sample layering possible? I mean stack layers, not only velocity-layers like in GA ONE.

  3. Can each pad have its own insert effects, or are there only aux send buses?

  4. Can GASE4 import GA ONE kits?

Is it possible to copy one pad to another?
I remember trying out the original GA SE and pads could not be copied. So I didn’t use it and haven’t looked at GA since.

Loving this too. One thing I haven’t figured out:

If I drag and drop an audio clip from the arrange page, the entire audio file is referenced. I can’t figure out how to truncate only the slice of audio I want (rather than keep the full audio file). This makes saving patches very heavy on disk usage if all I want is a snare from a 7 minute track. Hope that makes sense!

If anyone has figured this out, would love to hear how!

Within GASE4 I’m not sure if each pad has its own insert fx, but a workaround is to activate the multi-outs and use inserts from within Cubase. I don’t think GASE4 is a standalone product so it’d probably make more sense to add insert fx to your Cubase mixer.

In the arrange window, when I cut and manipulate a segment of audio I get the option to create new version. I think this is what you’re looking for. So the snippet of audio you slice needs to be saved as a new version. I won’t have C7.5 until Friday. Hope that points you into the right direction.

Yes, it’s possible to create a new version, or bounce, before dragging into GA. However, that’s a few extra clicks and doesn’t allow you to edit start/end points once the sample is in GA.

From what I understand:

1-no, drag and drop from media bay
2-no Edit : yes you can
3-no, you have 4 inserts slots for the whole kit (FX applies on all the pads) + 4 send FX Busses + 4 master FX slots
4-i don’t know

you can adjust sample start and end in GASE4.

yes it is

Of course, but not if you’ve truncated (or bounced) your clip in the arrange page first and later want to tweak your start/end points from the original audio file.

ah yes, you’re right. But with your example of sampling the snare from a 7 minutes track, you can cut 2 or 3 seconds in the project window, and then adjust more precisely in GA.

Whenever I try to drag a sample onto a GA pad from Mac Finder, GA disappears making drag & drop from Finder impossible. Drag & drop works as expected from within Cubase, however.

EDIT:

I’ve found that un-ticking ‘Always On Top’ allows drag and drop from Finder. This is opposite to what I’d expect.

I think GA and Battery are very different tools. GA is useful for drag and drop from within the project area. However, it doesn’t allow you to cycle through a folder of samples for an individual pad, which is what makes Battery great and super fast to use.

I think I’ll end up using both.

i’ve used range selection 4 or 5 seconds around the sample (a lot better than 7 minutes)

bounce selection and drop into GASE

It’s possible to step through a folder of samples in Media Bay - and quickly assign the sample/s to SE4
Or - you can use Replace Sample to Step through a Folder in SE4, See Below

Re:1
In: EDIT: Main
Right Click On A Sample
Choose Replace Sample
This will bring up a folder - Prelisten Samples is checked by default and you can step through a list of the samples in a folder - and replace instantly

Re: 2
In EDIT: Main
Under the samples - there’s a drop down menu: Mode (Velocity, Layer, Round Robin, Random, Random Exclusive)
This will stack layers

Re: 3
AFAIK
Each pad/s can go to up to 16 separate outputs
Otherwise:
There are 4 AUX Buses
Add FX here
And the Bus amount in EDIT: Amp
Under the sample are the AUX Buses

Re: 4
GA1 kits load into GA SE4

GA SE4 is a great update and a great drum / perc sample player.
I used to use Battery 3 a while back - but didn’t upgrade to Battery 4 due to Undo (Ctrl Z) reported to be not working.
Undo and Redo work in SE4
Also - I think Media Bay is the Dogs Nutz for finding samples and worked great with GA1
However - this latest update is much more useful.

i think click and hold, and maybe drag with +Alt. usual modifier should work if it is actually possible.

hope this helps

2 questions:

  1. Is it possible to drag multiple samples selection (from mediabay) on different consecutive pads, instead of drag all the samples in the same pad?

  2. How is it possible to have audio choke groups between samples (hi-hat open->closed)?

  1. yes there are 3 options of drag n drop from media bay : add, replace, and add to consecutive pads
  2. you can assign each pad to an exclusive group, the two sounds won’t play at the same time

@ Dave Wise - Wow, thank you for your detailed informations! That doesn’t sound bad. It would have been great to see the sample selector, that Steinberg introduced with Padshop:


You can easily browse thru your library folders with keys (!), pressing ENTER loads a sample (without closing the selector) and you can play it immediately within the synthesis context (not just prelisten). If you don’t like it, choose another one. This is the way i want to assemble my drum kits. I think this is the best solution I have ever seen - even far better than in NI Kontakt/Battery. Why oh why did Steinberg “forget” to integrate this selector (I also miss it in Halion)?

Insert FX per Pad would be important for EQing - there are more samples in a kit than output channels.



Why do you write this, if you have no clue?