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AnyOne Using A Trackball?

Postby jamusic » Sat Mar 29, 2014 6:36 pm

Hey Buds,

I bought this yesterday, but have yet to open & try it yet.

http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-CA/product/log ... 9e0c6aen02

Although I'm right handed, I actually use the mouse with my left hand, my keyboard in the middle and a CMC-TP module on the right, but this only comes in a right handed version.

So any thoughts, opinions or alternates to consider?

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Re: AnyOne Using A Trackball?

Postby SteveInChicago » Sat Mar 29, 2014 6:58 pm

Kensington Expert Mouse Trackball all the way. no Handedness limitation since it's symmetrical, very fine tracking control, and chording, which adds two extra controls to the four buttons and scroll ring.

Only downside is it doesn't have app specific profiles. (earlier versions did, like in 2005)
http://www.kensington.com/kensington/us ... C2%AE.aspx
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Re: AnyOne Using A Trackball?

Postby jamusic » Sat Mar 29, 2014 8:02 pm

Thanks Steve - I'll check it out.
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Re: AnyOne Using A Trackball?

Postby curteye » Sun Mar 30, 2014 2:14 am

Aloha guys, (from a previous post)

I have been using a Kensington track ball since my
first Mac in 1993 and I have never ever used a mouse.

I have tried many of them but in the end I find that
I would rather move my fingers than my wrist/arm.

Then I got a new Apple TrackPad. And WOW!

For the first time I can now comfortably replace my trackball.

Using the TrackPad is like playing an instrument.
Once you get your 'chops' (learning the 'gestures') there is no going back.

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Re: AnyOne Using A Trackball?

Postby jamusic » Sun Mar 30, 2014 7:34 am

Ok so I've been looking at them and it seems that the Kensington 'Expert Mouse' trumps the other versions, correct?
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Re: AnyOne Using A Trackball?

Postby Strophoid » Sun Mar 30, 2014 2:44 pm

I've got a Kensington Orbit trackball with scrollring, it's much cheaper and works well for me. This will work for lefties too.
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Re: AnyOne Using A Trackball?

Postby Jarno » Sun Mar 30, 2014 5:24 pm

When it comes to mouse replacements I've always preferred Wacom tablets (like this one):
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Re: AnyOne Using A Trackball?

Postby SteveInChicago » Sun Mar 30, 2014 5:53 pm

Jarno wrote:When it comes to mouse replacements I've always preferred Wacom tablets (like this one):
http://www.wacom.com/en/de/creative/intuos-m

That looks interesting. Have you been able to compare using it with using a laptop trackpad?

Wacom also now has smaller units that look a bit like Apple wireless trackpads... I wonder if anyone here has checked those out?
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Re: AnyOne Using A Trackball?

Postby Jarno » Sun Mar 30, 2014 6:20 pm

SteveInChicago wrote:Have you been able to compare using it with using a laptop trackpad?

Unfortunately not. Haven't had one for few years. But when I still had a daytime job I used Wacom pen-tablets ranging from small ones up to A3-sized monsters during a period of something like 15 years. They had pin-point accuracy and ergonomy which no mouse or trackball can provide. But no, I have no experience on their new touch-aware products.

But now as this topic came up here, I realised I should go and buy myself one in few days. So ... hold your breath and wait ... I'll be back.
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Re: AnyOne Using A Trackball?

Postby SteveInChicago » Sun Mar 30, 2014 6:28 pm

Jarno wrote:I'll be back.
Great. I will be waiting. ;)

(I wanted to try an Apple trackpad, but I do not want another device that needs batteries.)
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Re: AnyOne Using A Trackball?

Postby johngar » Sun Mar 30, 2014 7:05 pm

SteveInChicago wrote:Kensington Expert Mouse Trackball all the way. no Handedness limitation since it's symmetrical, very fine tracking control, and chording, which adds two extra controls to the four buttons and scroll ring.

Only downside is it doesn't have app specific profiles. (earlier versions did, like in 2005)
http://www.kensington.com/kensington/us ... C2%AE.aspx

I hope you don't mind me asking, but how do you "click and drag" with one of these?
Seems like it would be difficult.
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Re: AnyOne Using A Trackball?

Postby SteveInChicago » Sun Mar 30, 2014 9:30 pm

Not at all, John. Holding down the left button with my thumb and rolling the ball with index and middle fingers.

When I lay my hand on it without aiming, my thumb rests on the left button, ring finger on the right button, index and middle fingers rest on the ball naturally.

The ball has enough weight so I can sort of throw the cursor across the screen, then grab control when it arrives at the target. It was easy to get precise with it.

It felt very natural from the first time I used one, like in 1998.

I'm talking about this one:
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Re: AnyOne Using A Trackball?

Postby johngar » Sun Mar 30, 2014 10:03 pm

SteveInChicago wrote:Not at all, John. Holding down the left button with my thumb and rolling the ball with index and middle fingers.

When I lay my hand on it without aiming, my thumb rests on the left button, ring finger on the right button, index and middle fingers rest on the ball naturally.

The ball has enough weight so I can sort of throw the cursor across the screen, then grab control when it arrives at the target. It was easy to get precise with it.

It felt very natural from the first time I used one, like in 1998.

I'm talking about this one:
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Thanks, I just ordered one, I'll give it a try.
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Re: AnyOne Using A Trackball?

Postby SteveInChicago » Sun Mar 30, 2014 10:10 pm

johngar wrote:Thanks, I just ordered one, I'll give it a try.
Great, I'll watch for you comments about it.
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Re: AnyOne Using A Trackball?

Postby jamusic » Mon Mar 31, 2014 6:18 am

SteveInChicago wrote:
johngar wrote:Thanks, I just ordered one, I'll give it a try.
Great, I'll watch for you comments about it.

I think I'm gonna order one as well. Thanks for the tip Steve.
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Re: AnyOne Using A Trackball?

Postby Strophoid » Wed Apr 02, 2014 12:39 am

You can do everything you can with a normal mouse with a Kensington trackball, the only thing I miss is a middle mouse button but that's solved on the one Steve's posted, as it has 4 buttons ;).
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Re: AnyOne Using A Trackball?

Postby johngar » Wed Apr 02, 2014 3:14 am

I have only tested it for about 45 min today, but so far I really like it. It will take some time to get familiar with it, but I think it will be an improvement from using a mouse. The scroll ring is much better than a mouse wheel I think.
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Re: AnyOne Using A Trackball?

Postby Cut-a-Corner » Wed Apr 02, 2014 2:51 pm

btw ... logitech has this new keyboard touchpad combination "logitech tk 820"

i checked it at my local store and it felt great. good look and built quality.
has anyone experience using this with cubase?
especially the touchpad on that device.

i like that compact solution and prefer touchpad over trackball. (multi gestures)
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Re: AnyOne Using A Trackball?

Postby curteye » Thu Apr 03, 2014 1:48 am

SteveInChicago wrote:(I wanted to try an Apple trackpad, but I do not want another device that needs batteries.)


I hear ya!

That is a major annoyance and seems to pop-up when least expected.

So I got an app called: 'iStat Menu' which monitors battery life and displays
that info in a drop-down from the menu bar.

Not a 'real' solution but does give me a 'heads-up'.
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Re: AnyOne Using A Trackball?

Postby Norbury Brook » Thu Apr 03, 2014 10:55 am

I've been using a Microsoft trackball for about 10 years and I've not had any physical issues with my hands/arms.


When I moved to windows 8 recently on a new DAW I bought an Apple type track pad; the Logitech one but it felt a bit weird to me initially so put it in a drawer.


I might re visit it again and force myself to give it another go.


It was great for general windows 8 swiping/scrolling /zooming etc but in Cubase for editing it felt a bit unnatural, however the trackball felt like that initially.



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Re: AnyOne Using A Trackball?

Postby johngar » Thu Apr 03, 2014 4:22 pm

SteveInChicago wrote:
johngar wrote:Thanks, I just ordered one, I'll give it a try.
Great, I'll watch for you comments about it.

After only one day with it, I feel very comfortable with it. I left my regular mouse there in case I felt I needed to go back to it, I have not reached for it once yet. Looks like this one is a keeper.
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Re: AnyOne Using A Trackball?

Postby SteveInChicago » Thu Apr 03, 2014 4:33 pm

johngar wrote:After only one day with it, I feel very comfortable with it. I left my regular mouse there in case I felt I needed to go back to it, I have not reached for it once yet. Looks like this one is a keeper.

Great! Glad the recommendation was a good one.
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Re: AnyOne Using A Trackball?

Postby Brain » Fri Apr 04, 2014 6:22 pm

Strophoid wrote:You can do everything you can with a normal mouse with a Kensington trackball, the only thing I miss is a middle mouse button but that's solved on the one Steve's posted, as it has 4 buttons ;).


Actually you can program 6 button actions (here's how mine is programmed)
1. lower left = single click, drag & drop
2. upper left = show desktop, great for when I have a lot of windows open and I need to get to my shortcuts
3. upper right = double click
4. lower right = right click (system functions)
5. lower left + lower right = windows task manager (for when that $$@^$@%$ program hangs up)
6. upper left + upper right = not used YET

There is a long list of functions that can be assigned to a button

I have used nothing but Kensington Pro track balls for the last 20 years (hate using a mouse)
I even converted my family to using trackballs at home.
Never having to lift a mouse to reposition "Priceless"

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Re: AnyOne Using A Trackball?

Postby SteveInChicago » Fri Apr 04, 2014 6:27 pm

Here's how I have mine set up:

1. lower left: click
2. upper left: command-click
3. upper right: right-click
4. lower right: double-click
5. lower left + lower right: middle-click
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Re: AnyOne Using A Trackball?

Postby jamusic » Fri Apr 04, 2014 6:38 pm

Hey Brain & Steve - thanks for the button set up posts.

Ordered mine last night - [finally] and now just awaiting shipping today sometime.

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