7.5.20 Impressions...

I totally agree! I wish Steinberg would give us more customization options or hire a guy like white tie. The edit window is great and I really cant complain about the look. The idea behind the mix console is on the right track but the graphics need to be given serious consideration. As they are now, they look like: Microsoft Excel meets Logic 5.5

The spread sheet look is really not that flattering. The boys from Fab Filter seem to have the right ideas for clean, modern, user friendly gui-s.

It wouldn’t really take that much to clean the mix console up.
The over abundance of grid lines and the cheap paper texture looking background isn’t working that well for my taste. The latest gray framed incarnation of the loudness meter is reminiscent of something you’d buy at radio shack 30 years ago, or of one of the first cell phone prototypes.


The attached pic is old and Ive posted this a while ago. It was an attempt to see how the look could be changed so it has a bit more tactile feel and a cleaner work flow while still respecting the topology of the MC. It was really a product of curiosity. The pink meters are 80s inspired as I was working on stuff that was 80s sounding. :smiley: I keep mine the default color.


I am not a professional graphic designer and did it just for myself. I’m sure there are even guys on this forum who’d kick ass if they gave it a go.

C’mon Steiny, give us some gloss.

Best,
_F

That looks great! I’ve posted a few times about how the first release of the new mixer in 7 looked much better than the present version (see Steinberg Forums, Steinberg Forums, and Steinberg Forums). I strongly dislike the new pale grey background behind the meters - it’s like all the definition and vibrance is gone and we’re left with a grey, murky mess.

How did you achieve what you posted in the screenshot?

Hi Brock,

Its just photo shop. Thanks for the positive feedback!! I agree with you, the gray background looks like a draft design that was photo copied too many times with the ink running low. It definitely lacks the crispness and vibrancy. I don’t know how hard it is to implement more user customization for the gui, but it would be great to have those options at least.

Cheers,
_F

Exactly… the realism of the plugins is amazing but that said, I just want stuff to work right first…the pretty pictures are secondary.

I was tempted to install it but honestly, I’m pretty happy w/C7 right now.

Also, I don’t really see anyone “Bashing” Reaper



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Yes, that looks really nice. Very clean

I don’t need gloss, but those dots are beginning to annoy me a lot. I thought I’d get used to them but they’re just too faffy and close together. Proper controls please!

Back on topic, I’m loving 7.5 now!

For me, the mixer is still a mess of great features that don’t work for actual mixing. C6.5 is still a vastly superior mixing solution. Editing, recording, composing 7.5.x is great and getting better. But, for mixing … YUK.

I got more crash on quit with 7.5.2. It seems to be related to the way cubase ask to save before quitting even if I’ve just saved the project. Now, it crash on quit instead of asking to save.

Mac 10.8.5.
Rme Babyface, latest driver.

No one can help you if you don’t post your specs…

:nerd:

My thoughts exactly. 100% agree :slight_smile:

Now that I have spent about 5 hours on/with Reaper (first and foremost as a mixing solution), I wholeheartedly regret that I didn’t look at Reaper 18 months ago. Seems like a great mixing environment. And a very flexible one.
Will happily investigate further after the Easter holidays.

See my other thread about re-starting my mixing career :wink:

I will of corse continue to use C6.5 and N5.5, as well as taking advantage of some of the great new features in C7.5. Track Versions in particular when recording multitracked Drumkits and other multimiced sources. For single miced sources like vocal etc, I still like Cubase’s Lanes feature the best. But for mixing … YUK.

The short-term mixing solution is still C6.5, but for mid- to long-term mixing solution I am looking inte Reaper, and PT and S1 (in which I have some experience).
The more Steinberg moves away from the “old” mixer, the more sense even the PT mixer makes.

Remember, I am only talking about the mixer and mixing stage here. For all other purposes Cubase and Nuendo are my nr 1 DAW. Frustrating to say the least, to see the mixer fall off the cliff like this.

I have to say that - to my eyes - this the first time Cubase’ mixer invokes such emotions and contradicting responses.
EVER.

I just can’t remember in all my years here that people talked so much about Cubase’ mixer. for the better and for the worst (many love it and it seems that many more LOATH it. it shouldn’t be like that. it is, after all, just a mixer).

Personally, I did try to love MixDebacle over the last year and a half. see if you can guess what are my feelings towards it… :mrgreen:

I have since come to understand that Sound on Sound’s final words (in the “cons” sections) about Cubase’ mixer fully realized themselves in reality :

  • cons
    Not all users will appreciate the aesthetic choices reflected in the new mixer’s design.

Yes, MESS is the correct word. it is not wise to try and cram so much info into tiny physical representation (our lcd’s. be it 17" or 24" or 30". and SURELY not when our resolution is still HD and not 4K)

The funny part is that the interface wastes more space, and provides FAR less information. I don’t loath the “look”. I loath the functionality. I want to look at the mixer and see the information.

Only a true Professional will appreciate Cubase 7.5 mixer :smiley:

No, true Professional sequence on Pro Tools :laughing:

Yes all my friends with SSL and Protools all admit that the midi in Protools sucks and that Cubase is where it’s at :smiley:

No true Professional sequence with pro tools and use Cubase. :wink:

Hi,

I revert back to 7.5.1 and everything seems fine now.
I think the crash on 7.5.2 is related to D16 Nepheton and/or Groove Agent SE 4

‘‘EDIT’’ : same with 7.5.1 :cry:

late 2013 iMac osx 10.8.5
Rme babyface, latest driver
Latest eLicenser.

I cant stand plugins which look like hardware lol. I love the izotope designs.

Really modern, functional and mouse friendly - and not locked into or constrained by hardware paradigms

+1

I’d maybe not go that far but, sometimes I cringe a little when someone a little too obviously has been bending over backwards trying to get some design look like hardware.

Sometimes it looks cool but it’s time to move on as well and take full advantage of the dynamic nature of the screen.