What is next?

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What is next?

Postby sonicstate » Tue May 06, 2014 10:17 am

I really like Cubase 7.5, especially Groove Agent SE. So I wonder, what is next?
What are the plans regarding future development? What will next Cubase offer?
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Re: What is next?

Postby cmaffia » Tue May 06, 2014 11:32 am

Rumor has it that Chord Tracker will be replaced with Song Tracker which will compose songs for you including lyrics which will be sung by an advanced version of VariAudio. Writers block or knowledge of music will be a thing of the past. Moving forward, all you'll need to do is choose a musical genre and tell Cubase what mood you are in via emoticons or by linking Cubase to your FaceBook account. Also a new artificial intelligence engine will mix and master "your" song, upload it automatically to iTunes and bill you.
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Re: What is next?

Postby BriHar » Tue May 06, 2014 2:03 pm

sonicstate wrote:... What will next Cubase offer?

Stability, reliability, dependability hopefully, - the rest is just smoke and mirrors!
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Re: What is next?

Postby funkygas » Tue May 06, 2014 9:02 pm

cmaffia wrote:Rumor has it that Chord Tracker will be replaced with Song Tracker which will compose songs for you including lyrics which will be sung by an advanced version of VariAudio. Writers block or knowledge of music will be a thing of the past. Moving forward, all you'll need to do is choose a musical genre and tell Cubase what mood you are in via emoticons or by linking Cubase to your FaceBook account. Also a new artificial intelligence engine will mix and master "your" song, upload it automatically to iTunes and bill you.


Love it! It also will come with a 2 album contract and the request to host the next year's Eurovision contest.
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Re: What is next?

Postby Hedshaker » Tue May 06, 2014 10:22 pm

sonicstate wrote:I really like Cubase 7.5, especially Groove Agent SE. So I wonder, what is next?
What are the plans regarding future development? What will next Cubase offer?


Thing is, what do you want? Cos what you want might not be what they envisage. Also, everything they add to Cubase increases bloat so you might find you eventually need a more powerful computer to run Cubase to its full potential if you want it to load fast and run smoothly. Like all things this must eventually reach a point of diminishing returns.

At this point I personally don't want more, I want what we have but better. You mention Groove Agent SE . It's good but could be so much better, without overly increasing its processing footprint. Little things like the ability to set its outputs without loading samples into channels. That would improve Groove Agent SE greatly without adding unnecessary bloat.
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Re: What is next?

Postby AP » Wed May 07, 2014 1:56 am

cmaffia wrote:Rumor has it that Chord Tracker will be replaced with Song Tracker which will compose songs for you including lyrics which will be sung by an advanced version of VariAudio. Writers block or knowledge of music will be a thing of the past. Moving forward, all you'll need to do is choose a musical genre and tell Cubase what mood you are in via emoticons or by linking Cubase to your FaceBook account. Also a new artificial intelligence engine will mix and master "your" song, upload it automatically to iTunes and bill you.


That's funny :D
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Re: What is next?

Postby curteye » Wed May 07, 2014 2:05 am

Hedshaker wrote:Thing is, what do you want?


Aloha and a major +1.

Don't ask!

Tell Steiny what YOU want so they can build it.

They are in business to make $$ by pleasing customers.

If we users don't know what great new feature(s) we want next, then IMHO
we users are the ones with limitations.

Speak up!
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Re: What is next?

Postby James K » Wed May 07, 2014 9:45 am

I would agree that there isn't much more to add in a major way. It's quite packed with excellent features right now. Stability and a few bug fixes would be welcome. I've used many Daws since the early 90s and this is the first time I have pretty much every thing set up just as I like it without much compromise!
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Re: What is next?

Postby sonicstate » Wed May 07, 2014 10:24 am

I've noticed that Steinberg figured out that if it looks better, it sounds better. Some old plugins, which nobody used much before, were made looking nicer, and suddenly they sound amazing...
But more of auto-composing methods would surely be welcome from my side. Like chord track and so on. Trend in music is going that way, just see the new EZDrummer2, few clicks and there you have it all, even better than your average drummer.
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Re: What is next?

Postby shadowfax » Wed May 07, 2014 10:53 am

What cmafia posted was very funny but seriously...it don't matter what you've got, you still have to write a good tune/song/lyric...

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Re: What is next?

Postby G-string » Wed May 07, 2014 1:03 pm

C10 probably as that's the only version that the mixer starts working properly in . Meter spikes in the control room ?? come on Steinberg that's just *flower* !
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Re: What is next?

Postby vespesian » Wed May 07, 2014 1:19 pm

Sample accurate automation, with true parabolic curve envelopes. Please.
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Re: What is next?

Postby silhouette » Wed May 07, 2014 3:02 pm

There will be an empty box, except for a 250,000 page instruction manual on how to create Cubase 8.
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Re: What is next?

Postby shadowfax » Wed May 07, 2014 3:13 pm

silhouette wrote:There will be an empty box, except for a 250,000 page instruction manual on how to create Cubase 8.


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: What is next?

Postby BriHar » Wed May 07, 2014 3:15 pm

So you mean the next Cubase won't actually be a software, but rather the long awaited user manual in hardcopy!
:D
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Re: What is next?

Postby Elektrobolt » Wed May 07, 2014 5:56 pm

Cubase DIY? ;)
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Re: What is next?

Postby stereolost » Wed May 07, 2014 7:01 pm

Wonder how many versions away are my 8+ insert and send slots =)
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Re: What is next?

Postby silhouette » Wed May 07, 2014 11:27 pm

stereolost wrote:Wonder how many versions away are my 8+ insert and send slots =)



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Re: What is next?

Postby mozizo » Thu May 08, 2014 2:13 am

should come with free courses and books of computer programming and life extension to 240 years to learn it all
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Re: What is next?

Postby Jalcide » Thu May 08, 2014 3:08 am

stereolost wrote:Wonder how many versions away are my 8+ insert and send slots =)


+1

To clarify, by "+1" I mean "yes, good suggestion," not that Steinberg should increase the insert limit from 8 to 9.

:lol:

(And for we track freezers, that would be 6+ inserts.)

Kidding aside, for me the killer feature would be free arrangement of frozen tracks (Studio One style, but that actually works). Or, the equivalent of that via a souped-up "ASIO Guard" that hides all the freezing / pre-rendering under the hood (done in the background).
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Re: What is next?

Postby curteye » Thu May 08, 2014 7:32 am

James K wrote:I would agree that there isn't much more to add in a major way.


Aloha J and I agree.

That being said there are always kool ideas/approaches to 'steal' (samsung) from competitors.
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Re: What is next?

Postby Finsonic » Sat Jul 12, 2014 3:39 am

I doubt we will ever see stability in Cubase. This is not going to happen. I can't count the number of crashes I have experienced with Cubase throughout my life. It's thousands.

So, what will Cubase 8 be. Some more optical changes? Another VSTi included? One or two more features?

I still wonder what Cubase does in the 5 minutes after crashing before the windows gets closed...

I just want stability and USB-device recognition while Cubase is running so I can change devices during production. Nothing else.

I don't want to see this anymore:

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Most of all because the application support team apparently doesn't have a clue how to fix that.
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Re: What is next?

Postby curteye » Sat Jul 12, 2014 4:44 am

Finsonic wrote:Most of all because the application support team apparently doesn't have a clue how to fix that.


Interesting statement. Wonder how true that is?

There are passages of music that some players simply do not have the chops to execute
while other players can nail with no probs.

Does this also happen with coding? I'll bet it does.
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Re: What is next?

Postby Elektrobolt » Sat Jul 12, 2014 6:29 am

I experience stability, as described by curteye. My music computers are dedicated to making music with Cubase.
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Re: What is next?

Postby Starsprinkler » Sun Jul 13, 2014 7:07 pm

A function heavily asked for is Bounce-in-Place, that should be included with C8.
viewtopic.php?f=182&t=43826

I also noted that Zplane has released version 3 of élastique, which is used in VariAudio. I guess that VariAudio will be upgraded to v3 of élastique.
"Version 3 has a highly improved transient processing even at high stretch ratios."
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