Yes, I did turn them on before opening cubase. I would like to use them as controllers, but when I open the midi device manager neither are listed. In my windows device manager I see they install as a usb audio device, but I do not see them any where in Cubase. I tried selecting GM device and midi device manager and that didn't work. I can get sound with Halion using the virtual keyboard, but not with either of the keyboards. Is there any guide that breaks this down "barney" style for the midi challenged like me?