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Re: Mini The Moog

Postby monsterjazzlicks » Fri Nov 08, 2013 12:04 am

NorthWood MediaWorks wrote:I had a moog source for a little while back in the early 80's. it was basically a mini with a digital preset memory.... Did not seem to have the tuning issues so much, at least, once it was warm. 8-)


Hey NWM,

Yeh man, one of my best mates has a Source !! Its great and i keep trying to buy it off him. It has buttons in the old Yamaha DX7 style, and the funkiest colour scheme ever. Love the sound of it. i think it has an ARPEGGIATOR or a SEQUENCER of sorts onboard ??

Ta,

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Re: Mini The Moog

Postby HornForHire » Mon Nov 11, 2013 12:49 pm

monsterjazzlicks wrote:Though i wanted to ask you please, have you heard of the Native Hammond B4 (i think its called) plug-in ?? i heard it a couple of years ago and thought it was amazing.

I don't own it, but I heard it is pretty amazing.
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Re: Mini The Moog

Postby HowlingUlf » Mon Nov 11, 2013 2:01 pm

I have NI B4 mkII and it makes me droll just holding down the keys! I happened to pass through a music shop a few weeks ago and they had a full Hammond organ with pedals and a Lesie speaker and it sounded great no doubt. I think the B4 comes close enough though in the studio.

I view it as this: You can't compare a real instrument like Hammond/Leslie or Strat/Marshall to a simulated one, but you can compare a micked up organ+amp or guitar+amp coming through the wall in to the studio monitors to a sim instrument also coming through the studio monitors. And in 2013 it's close enough to say that in the studio it makes no sense to drag the real *flower* around just for the sake of it. If you have some special set up you rely on for whatever reason of course you should use your hardware, but most of the time it's not significantly better.

The sims take no space and you can save presets of hundreds of combinations. Hardware can't. Hardware can WAIL and SCARE SMALL ANIMALS, TICKLE YOUR EARS, ROCK YOUR SOCKS OFF and SOUNDS DANGEROUS in the real world. That's their place!!! 8-)

Where were we? Oh, the B4! Great plugin! 8-)
Get on if you can ... Native Instruments discontinued it a few years ago, though!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :shock:

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Same goes for the Mini Moog, of course!
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Re: Mini The Moog

Postby monsterjazzlicks » Mon Nov 11, 2013 9:58 pm

I have NI B4 mkII and it makes me droll just holding down the keys! I happened to pass through a music shop a few weeks ago and they had a full Hammond organ with pedals and a Lesie speaker and it sounded great no doubt. I think the B4 comes close enough though in the studio.

Where were we? Oh, the B4! Great plugin! 8-)
Get on if you can ... Native Instruments discontinued it a few years ago, though!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :shock:


Thanks Howling,

Yes i think you are correct. It must have been discontinued because i can't seem to find it anywhere. i was also not aware that there was a 'Mk 2' version.

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Re: Mini The Moog

Postby Rotund » Sun Nov 17, 2013 10:59 pm

Congrats on the Mini! I've owned an original Model D since 1989.
Got it for a hundred bucks in Youngstown Ohio.
Mostly been sitting in a studio but I did gig with it on and off.
The tuning was always an issue at live events.
(The temp and humidity in clubs can be bad)

I use to use the headphone output to tune it and change
sounds parameters between playing.
You can shut off the main output and still use the
phones output. That little feature was brilliant thinking.
Saved my ass a couple of times right before a lead part
came up all out of tune.

I paid a $100.00 used in 1989, had it serviced once in Chicago at
Midwest Music Menders at a cost of $350.00-$400.00
sometime around 1992. Still going strong today.

The cosmetics are and have always been totally ruined.
The guy I bought it from had painted all the wood black.
Added a piece of wood to the bottom where he drilled a
giant hole to attach a stand. The keys are all crooked and
misaligned. But I like it that way. It looks like the keyboard
Mad Max would have had in "The Road Warrior" if he were a
musician and not a high speed death dealer of the future world.

It would be nice to get it looking like brand new I guess.
I would only do that if I were going to sell it and
that just isn't going to happen.

Congratulations again, you have a new analogue friend for life.
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Re: Mini The Moog

Postby monsterjazzlicks » Sun Nov 17, 2013 11:09 pm

Thanks Rotund,

Thats a very interesting story mate !!

So i guess you are not going to invest any money in it, and so just keep it as it is. If its only being used in your studio then i guess thats fine.

Ta,

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Re: Mini The Moog

Postby monsterjazzlicks » Sun Nov 17, 2013 11:13 pm

Guys,

i tooks some pic's this weekend but am not sure if i can upload them as it says JPEG files are not permitted ??

Paul :?
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Re: Mini The Moog

Postby monsterjazzlicks » Mon Nov 18, 2013 4:48 am

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Re: Mini The Moog

Postby Strophoid » Mon Nov 18, 2013 4:35 pm

That looks amazing, nice flightcase with it too!
Happy with the sound? :D
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Re: Mini The Moog

Postby monsterjazzlicks » Mon Nov 18, 2013 5:04 pm

Strophoid wrote:That looks amazing, nice flightcase with it too!
Happy with the sound? :D


Strophoid,

Thanks for taking the time to check out my recent pics. i am pleased that the links and uploads worked !! Would you say that the method i have used is the best (and only) option ?? As i say, the forum would not accept the 'size' of my photo's (which were around 4MB each) ??

The seller gave me a full 90 x mins demonstration on the Moog at his home before i made the purchase which was very helpful indeed. So yes, it sounded amazing and i found it (on that occassion) easier to be able to an analize/concentrate on the sound whilst he was playing it, rather than me. i had a quick play of course, but it was mainly the seller who (quite literally !!) could not keep his hands off the damn thing !!

Because i was travelling down on the train from Liverpool to Bristol to make the purchase, the seller kindly included a fully flight case. Heavy of course but vital for serious transportation. i bought the 4 x Moog stickers from :-

stickers-design@hotmail.fr

It was a lovely sale and the seller has become a very close friend.

Happy days................... :mrgreen:

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Re: Mini The Moog

Postby Strophoid » Mon Nov 18, 2013 5:23 pm

Yeah this works fine, I'm on my phone as well so this is a good solution. To embed pics in your post they can be at most 700 pixels wide so if you want that you'll need to resize them manually first. Alternatively you can upload them as attachment to your post, but 4mb is too much, can't remember what the limit is but I imagine it tells you when you try.
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Re: Mini The Moog

Postby monsterjazzlicks » Mon Nov 18, 2013 5:29 pm

Strophoid wrote:Yeah this works fine, I'm on my phone as well so this is a good solution. To embed pics in your post they can be at most 700 pixels wide so if you want that you'll need to resize them manually first. Alternatively you can upload them as attachment to your post, but 4mb is too much, can't remember what the limit is but I imagine it tells you when you try.
Using something like Flickr is fine though.


Ta mate,

It says '1MiB' is the maximum file size. But as i kept reducing the photo's the quality seriously diminshed and became unusable.

So i opened accounts with Flickr and SkyDrive. It took bloody AGES to upload all the pics, but once they are done then thats it !!
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Re: Mini The Moog

Postby Strophoid » Mon Nov 18, 2013 10:15 pm

Yeah, reducing the photo quality is a bad idea, you are better off resizing them to make them smaller. That saves much more space without harming the quality (you just lose detail obviously, but at least colours remain intact) and you don't need huge pictures anyway.
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Re: Mini The Moog

Postby monsterjazzlicks » Mon Nov 18, 2013 10:19 pm

Strophoid wrote:Yeah, reducing the photo quality is a bad idea, you are better off resizing them to make them smaller. That saves much more space without harming the quality (you just lose detail obviously, but at least colours remain intact) and you don't need huge pictures anyway.


But do you think that the way i have done it (ie. provided LINKS to uploaded pic's on a 3rd Party website) is a good method ?? :?:
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Re: Mini The Moog

Postby Strophoid » Mon Nov 18, 2013 10:57 pm

Yeah sure, it works fine. It's just slightly easier for the reader if you are able to embed them right in the post using img tags, but that's a bit more work for you because they need to be the right resolution. To get them in the post just get a direct link to the image you want to embed and put it in between the img tags, like so:

Code: Select all
[img]https://i2.sndcdn.com/avatars-000002284831-y93rbx-t200x200.jpg?3eddc42[/img]


Image
I got that link by going to my own soundcloud page, rightclicking the image and copying the image url. That works on most websites, but not on flickr so that might not be the right choice as an image host IF you want to embed pictures.

This afternoon when I watched your images I just looked at the flickr album you posted. The other links I didn't try, but I just noticed something went wrong in the formatting, because these links are truncated. If you want to paste a link to an image make sure it's not automatically shortened when pasting it.
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Re: Mini The Moog

Postby monsterjazzlicks » Mon Nov 18, 2013 11:32 pm

Strophoid wrote:The other links I didn't try, but I just noticed something went wrong in the formatting, because these links are truncated. If you want to paste a link to an image make sure it's not automatically shortened when pasting it.

i just totally re-done them all from scratch, but i am not sure if they have still come out 'truncated' again ?? :?


I got that link by going to my own soundcloud page, rightclicking the image and copying the image url. That works on most websites, but not on flickr so that might not be the right choice as an image host IF you want to embed pictures.

Do you mean you Right-Click on the Image and then Click on PROPERTIES, and copy the ADDRESS URL :-

http://i1.sndcdn.com/avatars-0000078457 ... pg?3eddc42

or the AVATAR :-

avatars-000007845772-jzm4xs-crop.jpg?3eddc42

(these are both from my own SoundCloud page - http://soundcloud.com/monsterjazzlicks).

i will try this at a later date thanks a lot. But because there are about 28 x pic's is total, i thought this would be a stupid amount to post purely because it would take up far too much room.
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Re: Mini The Moog

Postby Strophoid » Mon Nov 18, 2013 11:59 pm

Yes the links are fine now :)

Yeah that URL should work fine, just stick it inbetween img tags like in my previous post and it should work. 28 pics would be a bit much I agree ;).
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Re: Mini The Moog

Postby monsterjazzlicks » Tue Nov 19, 2013 12:04 am

Strophoid wrote:Yes the links are fine now :)

Yeah that URL should work fine, just stick it inbetween img tags like in my previous post and it should work. 28 pics would be a bit much I agree ;).


Much appreciated Strophoid !!

Your example is very helpful indeed thanks.

i am very new to all this online file-sharing etc so i am constantly playing 'catch up' !! :shock:
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Re: Mini The Moog

Postby Strophoid » Tue Nov 19, 2013 12:33 am

No problem man, I wish I had your gear. Don't forget what you have ;) 8-)
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Re: Mini The Moog

Postby monsterjazzlicks » Tue Nov 19, 2013 1:25 am

Strophoid wrote:No problem man, I wish I had your gear. Don't forget what you have ;) 8-)


Cheers man, i will posting some more vintage keys in the next couple of months ;)
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Re: Mini The Moog

Postby HornForHire » Tue Nov 19, 2013 10:57 am

I checked the pics, it looks awesome! 8-)
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Re: Mini The Moog

Postby monsterjazzlicks » Tue Nov 19, 2013 3:49 pm

HornForHire wrote:I checked the pics, it looks awesome! 8-)


Thanks very much MFH. Nice to hear you appreciate the world of Moog !! :mrgreen:
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Re: Mini The Moog

Postby kzarider » Thu Nov 21, 2013 4:48 am

Congratulations on you purchase it's great to have the real thing can't wait to hear what you do with it!

Back in day I had - Mini, Arp Odyssey, Clav, Rhodes Suitcase and C3 and Emulator2. The Moog we used for Bass it was incredible instrument and never had an issues with it. I personally loved the sound of the ARP and would love to get another one. Unfortunate the truck was stolen with all that gear in it in Miami Fla...worst day of life at that point :cry:

I am blessed today in having XK3C, B3, Dyno Rhodes and a the E2 which wasn't in truck at time. I just bought a Wurly 200 model (206 that's cut down) that needs refurbishing today. I used one on session yesterday and decided that I won't spend another Day w/o one :)
Wurly has got a hum, needs to be regulated (?) and the top octave sticks when pressing the sustain. SHouldn't be to hard to fix though.

Rock on with that Moog!
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Re: Mini The Moog

Postby monsterjazzlicks » Thu Nov 21, 2013 5:10 am

kzarider wrote:Congratulations on you purchase it's great to have the real thing can't wait to hear what you do with it!

Back in day I had - Mini, Arp Odyssey, Clav, Rhodes Suitcase and C3 and Emulator2. The Moog we used for Bass it was incredible instrument and never had an issues with it. I personally loved the sound of the ARP and would love to get another one. Unfortunate the truck was stolen with all that gear in it in Miami Fla...worst day of life at that point :cry:


Hey there Kenny,

Thanks a lot matey. i am pleased you liked the photos. It is a great feeling finally owning one after 25 x years of dreaming about it !! i have definately done the right thing and hung on until the perfect one came along. i nearly 'impulse bought' a couple of times (on ebay) i am happy to admit !! :o

Thats a very sad story about your wagon getting stolen with your gear in. When i was at music college our house got burgeled in the first week and i lost £1,500 worth of cd's. So yes, its a dreadful feeling i know.

btw - i really enjoyed our Skype chat a couple of months back. Did you get sorted with the NORD keyboard you were looking for. Or did you choose another brand ?? i still have and use my Nord Stage 88 Classic all the time.

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Re: Mini The Moog

Postby kzarider » Thu Nov 21, 2013 5:43 am

I ended up getting the Kurzweil PC3K8 keyboard, I swore I wasn't going to get another Kurzweil but couldn't pass up the deal I got at the Summer Namm show. I really think it's a great keyboard, very powerful with a steep learning curve...Really easy to set up as control surface for Vienna Ensemble Pro also.

It was very sad (felt like the end of life time lol) but people came out in droves to help us giving us equipment to get back on our feet. It was amazing complete strangers calling/helping even, at that time it made me a different person so as bad as it was I was granted a new look at what it meant to be humane and play it forward.
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