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best pointing device to work with cubase?

Postby mozizo » Fri May 10, 2013 2:57 am

i want to replace my conventional mouse which screws my hand palms and has some slowing workflow with DAW's

what do u guys use other than regular mouse?
i saw this logitech T650 touchpad http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iZm5g5mCqU is someone has experiance with it ?

what about other useful pointing devices for DAW (cubase) use to consider ?
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Re: best pointing device to work with cubase?

Postby SteveInChicago » Fri May 10, 2013 4:00 am

I use a trackball– a Kensington "Expert Mouse" from 2004, I think. Compared to the trackpad on my macbook, or any other pointing device it's awesome.

Kensington is not awesome, however. I had to buy a third party mouse driver to continue using is past a certain OS X version.

But a large trackball is very precise, and the weight of the ball gives a natural feel to it. The trackball is the same size as a billiards ball.
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Re: best pointing device to work with cubase?

Postby mozizo » Fri May 10, 2013 4:27 am

mmm... i really don't have experience with trackball devices, but somehow it looks more complicated to navigate than a mouse ! and also looks as if its gonna fatigue the fingers.. saw it in some recording studio though !
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Re: best pointing device to work with cubase?

Postby SteveInChicago » Fri May 10, 2013 11:45 am

mozizo wrote:mmm... i really don't have experience with trackball devices, but somehow it looks more complicated to navigate than a mouse ! and also looks as if its gonna fatigue the fingers.. saw it in some recording studio though !

I discovered it in a studio too. Not at all fatiguing. I find it to be more ergonomic.
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Re: best pointing device to work with cubase?

Postby distante » Fri May 10, 2013 12:31 pm

If you think about it, a trackpad is like a trackball with out the ball... :lol:

But maybe a trackball is more precise? I was looking for a trackpad for the studio also but now I wonder...
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Re: best pointing device to work with cubase?

Postby SteveInChicago » Fri May 10, 2013 12:47 pm

nothing like a trackpad, the ball has weight and momentum.
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Re: best pointing device to work with cubase?

Postby Guest » Fri May 10, 2013 2:45 pm

I prefer the Logitech Trackman series. Also eliminates RSI from mousing around.
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Re: best pointing device to work with cubase?

Postby SteveInChicago » Fri May 10, 2013 6:24 pm

SteveInChicago wrote:nothing like a trackpad, the ball has weight and momentum.
Meaning, you can 'throw' to the left and the cursor will go flying to where you want it to go. As you get used to it you can actually aim it successfully, which is good for 2560x1440 res.
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Re: best pointing device to work with cubase?

Postby curteye » Sun May 12, 2013 2:18 am

Aloha guys,
Just to chime in on this,

I have never used a mouse.

I have used a Kensington Trackball since
they were introduced in 1993.

But as was stated, things got a lil problematic
after OSX.

I now use an Apple TrackPad and would never go back.

Of course It has limitations.

1-not precise enough (in some situations).
2-not programmable enough.

but it is still by far the best solution for me.

The TrackPad to me is like learning to play a new instrument.
The gestures can be confusing at first but
once you get over the 'brain bump' this thing can fly.

So now I wait for Kensington to put the trackpad
and trackball into one unit.

I can imagine the surface of my trackpad 'wrapped' into a
360 degree ball and place in a trackball holder.

Now that would be kool.

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Re: best pointing device to work with cubase?

Postby mozizo » Sun May 12, 2013 2:33 am

well i'll have to go to a store to experiment with trackpad and trackball a little to see how it fits my workflow.
from first sight the logitech t650 "attracts" me first ... thanks for suggestions guys 8-)

So now I wait for Kensington to put the trackpad
and trackball into one unit.

I can imagine the surface of my trackpad 'wrapped' into a
360 degree ball and place in a trackball holder.

Now that would be kool.

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Re: best pointing device to work with cubase?

Postby SteveInChicago » Sun May 12, 2013 3:12 am

Wow curteye. A spherical trackball. You mean where you could switch from padball to trackball mode? I want to hear more about what you're thinking.

Mozizo, the Kensington Slimblade (or Expert Mouse Pro) has a cueball sized ball. That is what makes it so great, the size and weight. There are a lot of trackballs that are smaller and those is nothing like this.

I bought Steermouse which brings back all the functionality of the kensington software to the Expert Mouse Pro except for chording. That I miss.
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Re: best pointing device to work with cubase?

Postby mozizo » Sun May 12, 2013 10:11 pm

well i went with the Logitech T650 touchpad in the end.. hopefully its a good choice(from ebay will take some time to arrive to my country to check),, if not i'll l go with the kensington trackball and i feed my street cats with my old mouse. :evil:
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Re: best pointing device to work with cubase?

Postby distante » Sun May 12, 2013 10:38 pm

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Re: best pointing device to work with cubase?

Postby SteveInChicago » Sun May 12, 2013 10:52 pm

mozizo wrote:...some time to arrive to my country
What country, if I may ask?
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Re: best pointing device to work with cubase?

Postby mozizo » Sun May 12, 2013 11:17 pm

SteveInChicago wrote:
mozizo wrote:...some time to arrive to my country
What country, if I may ask?


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Re: best pointing device to work with cubase?

Postby SteveInChicago » Sun May 12, 2013 11:22 pm

Ah, you have some great Romanian musicians there. (one of my specialties)
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Re: best pointing device to work with cubase?

Postby mozizo » Sun May 12, 2013 11:29 pm

Romanian ? mmm i dont know romanian musicians in israel.. i think there is one famous violin player also perform in TV i think he is romanian or some other Balkan country.

but there are some bands in israel do electro balkan music like "balkan beat box" , but they are mostly israelis.
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Re: best pointing device to work with cubase?

Postby mozizo » Sun May 12, 2013 11:35 pm

SteveInChicago wrote:Ah, you have some great Romanian musicians there. (one of my specialties)


who... interesting.. i love balakan ,ethnic ,greek etc.. music..
the balkan musicians are crazy :) they have very fast and odd rhythms
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Re: best pointing device to work with cubase?

Postby SteveInChicago » Sun May 12, 2013 11:43 pm

Mostly older people now, who emigrated from Romania in the 70s and 80s. Romania has a unique music that's got a special place in the balkans. Search for "Lautari" on youtube.
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Re: best pointing device to work with cubase?

Postby mozizo » Sun May 12, 2013 11:50 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dm2maKprZk

mmm love it very much especially some parts of the video :D
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Re: best pointing device to work with cubase?

Postby SteveInChicago » Mon May 13, 2013 12:32 am

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Re: best pointing device to work with cubase?

Postby mozizo » Mon May 13, 2013 12:51 am

yeah man// thats the real deal.. makes me feel grabbing a Zoika to drink and dance.. crazy musicians virtuoz and full of feel..

there are also terrific turkish band "laco tayfa" great musicians.
this one kind of turkish and balkan style but they are kind of modern funky jazzy turkish band..
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Re: best pointing device to work with cubase?

Postby SteveInChicago » Mon May 13, 2013 12:59 am

Yeah, Laço Tayfa! Got turned on to them with the album Bergama Gaydası. Husnu Senlendirici is great.
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Re: best pointing device to work with cubase?

Postby curteye » Mon May 13, 2013 4:18 am

SteveInChicago wrote:Heh. Not really :lol: . This is more what I had in mind: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnNCidccbG8 or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0KUTj7vNS0


WOW!!
Now that's music!
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(kinda like playing on the inside of a baby grand with mallets).

Had access to one for a short while from a Hungarian buddy.
Never learned to play/tune it tho'. :(

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Re: best pointing device to work with cubase?

Postby BriHar » Mon May 13, 2013 12:15 pm

I have a number of devices attached besides a mouse. The most important thing with a mouse is setting the response to your liking, beyond that it's just what feels comfortable - my mouse is not especially comfortable, it's a Roland sales gimmick made to look exactly like a Boss distortion foot pedal. I also use a Shuttlexpress when working with the project window though I'm now trying to get used to the CMC-TP.

What I really wanted to mention here though, because nobody seems to have mentioned using one, is a Graphic tablet. I use one of these primarily for wave editing because nothing is better for drawing than a pen on pad. These usually work in two modes, either screen mapped i.e. where you point on the tablet is always the same spot on the screen, or in mouse mode which behaves obviously like a mouse. If you get a chance, try one they're actually much more intuitive than a mouse or trackball. The only con is that if you put the pen down, you have to pick it up ;) but many like to keep the pen in hand if only to have something to fiddle with while listening. Actually, the tablet I have (Wacom Graphire) has a mouse as well as a pen.
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