ThePresent wrote:2. All your tracks can be below 0 dB but combined they can make your mixbus clip, so you have to bring back the levels of all your tracks.
delrocco wrote:In conclusion, is there a typcial level that I should shoot for? Like -2.0 or something? Or does it not matter at all? I only remember -2.0 because of some mastering tutorial I have that trims it to that, but I have no idea if that level is significant in some way.
registered wrote:" 2. All your tracks can be below 0 dB but combined they can make your mixbus clip, so you have to bring back the levels of all your tracks."
That's an incorrect statement, don't follow that advice.
Just make sure your mix bus stays out of the red, with or without a master limiter.
If you go into the red, you'll know it, since Cubase lights up a big red "over" light.
I set my meter preference to hold that warning infinitely long, so I never miss it.
thinkingcap wrote:Now if you take the time and think about the quote, you' ll see it says exactly what you are saying: If the master clips, you need to bring the levels down...
Correct, valid and good advice...
ThePresent wrote:you have to bring back the levels of all your tracks
Jarno wrote:thinkingcap wrote:Now if you take the time and think about the quote, you' ll see it says exactly what you are saying: If the master clips, you need to bring the levels down...
Correct, valid and good advice...
I think he was talking about this:ThePresent wrote:you have to bring back the levels of all your tracks
Which is incorrect. You don't have to bring back the levels of individual tracks. You can just bring back the level of master buss.
EDIT: Arjan was quicker.
registered wrote:"That' s not incorrect, it' s one of two ways to do it."
I guess if you have a master bus plugin you're worried about, there's a third way as well.
You can bring down the trim control on Cubase's master bus, since it's before the inserts.
If you have a plugin that distorts in a master insert, the trim is handy for getting it to distort "just enough".
thinkingcap wrote:...-it' s the only correct way of the two (using the input gain being the second).
registered wrote:Yes, my mistake, I took that to mean that the input channels had to be lowered. -Sorry.
So, a final re-statement for clarity: If you like your mix, but it's too hot, you can just bring down the master bus instead of re-balancing your input faders.
You can do that with the master trim if you want to alter the master plugin drive, or with the master fader if you just want to set the level for the output file.
Cubase's floating point math will compensate for any unintended (plugin related) overages within the mixing bus, as well as elsewhere.
Chad Johnson wrote:I'm having a maddening issue with my Cubase 6.5 master bus showing clipping when I apply mastering effects (Ozone5). Last in line in ozone is their Maximizer. I've got the threshold margin at -0.3db, but I'm getting the occasional clip in the master bus. So as a quick fix I put the stock Cubase limiter after Ozone in my master bus, and set that to -0.3db, and I still get clipping. I'm not getting clipping without mastering effects. But when I set a limiter last in the bus, nothing should go through that, even if I'm over squashing the crap out of everything, which I am not. So this is maddening, as I'm trying to maximize my mix to -11db average (standard practice) but I can't prevent clips. And even more confusing, the clip happens at a point when there isn't something like a snare hit or a loud vice or an acoustic guitar transient. It's between drum hits and singing.
Driving me crazy! IS there some weird thing about the Cubase master bus showing ghost overages?
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