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Who else loves the control room

Postby TheNavigator » Mon Oct 14, 2013 11:26 am

I know, I rant a lot, but here is something really positive I want to say:

I LOVE the control room functionality! :)
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Re: Who else loves the control room

Postby GargoyleStudio » Mon Oct 14, 2013 12:30 pm

I'm soon to ditch my 32ch hardware mixer to make extra studio space and I'll probably get seriously into the control room at that point. Last time I used the control room a few years back it was failing to save some of the routing settings, but I assume that's all fixed now. Is the audio export level change now fixed I wonder? Hmm, with all the extra space I'm going to get back I'll be buying a 3rd or even 4th monitor :)

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Re: Who else loves the control room

Postby DaDa » Tue Oct 15, 2013 3:15 am

Bredo wrote:I LOVE the Control Room functionality of Cubase 6.5 and Nuendo 5.5.

Much better visibility, and more info at a glance. More like an actual mixer with all studio sends/meters in sight at the same time. Much faster to set up cue-mixes in a full band tracking scenario. Not that much clicking.
In addition you can see all inserts on all track with a touch of a button (toggles between meters and inserts).

This is another thing going backwards in Cubase 7. But I agree that the Control Room is a unique and very welcome thing in Cubase/Nuendo, if not Steinberg breaks it completely ;-).

100% agreed !
The Control Room feature is great !
The implementation in C7 takes it a few steps back.

For serious work, C6.5.5 is the way to go !
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Re: Who else loves the control room

Postby Tompa » Tue Oct 15, 2013 10:26 am

I agree , and i just wonder why steny use this slider thing in the new mixerconsol instead of knobs or faders.
The volume setting is now verry difficult to set, with all these things "post/pre" etc popping up.
Hope this will be fixed.
I´m for more realistic knobs or minifader in the mixerconsol.
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Re: Who else loves the control room

Postby DaveAbbott » Tue Oct 15, 2013 11:13 am

I also LOVE the control room, I've been using it for a couple of years now, I use it with Steiny's UR824, excellent integration, I don't mind the changes in C7 although I agree with Tompa about the slider thing, I would prefer an actual fader I think for the various volume controls. Also wish the Cue Sends would automatically be PRE fader rather than post which for some strange reason is the default.

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Re: Who else loves the control room

Postby beatpete » Tue Oct 15, 2013 3:33 pm

Yep, Love the Control Room and have used it since it's inception but I wish the window layout would stay where you left it (7.06)...
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Re: Who else loves the control room

Postby Tony H » Tue Oct 15, 2013 4:44 pm

i only started using it in c7
so far i love it also
@ Dave Abbot ... i want to buy the ur824 and that was what i wanted to know about the intigration with the CR
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Re: Who else loves the control room

Postby J-S-Q » Tue Oct 15, 2013 6:26 pm

Yes, I love it too. Been using it for a few years and I got to say that I prefer the old Control Room setup from C6. I like pretty much all the new stuff in C7 but Control Room just seems like one area where things aren't working as well as they used to. More clicking than before and less information is visible at any one time and every time I close and re-open the window, my layout is reset. To insert a plugin I have to click on the Setup tab. Why??? Seems unnecessarily complex.

But still, it is an amazingly useful feature.
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Re: Who else loves the control room

Postby JMCecil » Tue Oct 15, 2013 8:03 pm

Needs more cues and a return to the 6.5 layout. But, as a concept it is awesome.
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Re: Who else loves the control room

Postby papi61 » Tue Oct 15, 2013 9:03 pm

I prefer the RME "control room." Works much better with my UFX. But if I had a Steinberg interface, I would definitely use Cubase's control room.
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Re: Who else loves the control room

Postby mozizo » Sat Nov 16, 2013 4:39 pm

DaDa wrote:
Bredo wrote:I LOVE the Control Room functionality of Cubase 6.5 and Nuendo 5.5.

Much better visibility, and more info at a glance. More like an actual mixer with all studio sends/meters in sight at the same time. Much faster to set up cue-mixes in a full band tracking scenario. Not that much clicking.
In addition you can see all inserts on all track with a touch of a button (toggles between meters and inserts).

This is another thing going backwards in Cubase 7. But I agree that the Control Room is a unique and very welcome thing in Cubase/Nuendo, if not Steinberg breaks it completely ;-).

100% agreed !
The Control Room feature is great !
The implementation in C7 takes it a few steps back.

For serious work, C6.5.5 is the way to go !
8-)

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me to finding C7 CR confusing , it opens it closes its not possible to see all cues full controls at one glance, its more clicky with mouse.. was better and straightforward in cubase 5..so i vote for improved GUI on this one too.
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Re: Who else loves the control room

Postby matjones » Sun Nov 17, 2013 10:56 am

DaDa wrote:
Bredo wrote:I LOVE the Control Room functionality of Cubase 6.5 and Nuendo 5.5.

Much better visibility, and more info at a glance. More like an actual mixer with all studio sends/meters in sight at the same time. Much faster to set up cue-mixes in a full band tracking scenario. Not that much clicking.
In addition you can see all inserts on all track with a touch of a button (toggles between meters and inserts).

This is another thing going backwards in Cubase 7. But I agree that the Control Room is a unique and very welcome thing in Cubase/Nuendo, if not Steinberg breaks it completely ;-).

100% agreed !
The Control Room feature is great !
The implementation in C7 takes it a few steps back.

For serious work, C6.5.5 is the way to go !
8-)

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Re: Who else loves the control room

Postby Norbury Brook » Sun Nov 17, 2013 3:02 pm

matjones wrote:
DaDa wrote:
Bredo wrote:I LOVE the Control Room functionality of Cubase 6.5 and Nuendo 5.5.

Much better visibility, and more info at a glance. More like an actual mixer with all studio sends/meters in sight at the same time. Much faster to set up cue-mixes in a full band tracking scenario. Not that much clicking.
In addition you can see all inserts on all track with a touch of a button (toggles between meters and inserts).

This is another thing going backwards in Cubase 7. But I agree that the Control Room is a unique and very welcome thing in Cubase/Nuendo, if not Steinberg breaks it completely ;-).

100% agreed !
The Control Room feature is great !
The implementation in C7 takes it a few steps back.

For serious work, C6.5.5 is the way to go !
8-)

Jan



yep i agree too



Put me down for another agree 100% vote.

Its the one area in Cubase 7 I don't like as much as before.


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Re: Who else loves the control room

Postby beatpete » Sun Nov 17, 2013 5:47 pm

Me too, the Control was definitely better in 6.5...
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Re: Who else loves the control room

Postby Elektrobolt » Sun Nov 17, 2013 5:59 pm

I think it would be interesting to hear from people that preferred the 6.5 CR, which parts that they like better than the 7 CR, or a specific behavior, etc.. If it's just "the whole thing" well then it's obviously little point in replying.

That way the Steinberg team could possibly steer things towards a better CR for everyone.

On topic, I really like the control room too. :)
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Re: Who else loves the control room

Postby JMCecil » Sun Nov 17, 2013 6:04 pm

@Elektrobolt

It's basically a visibility thing. The control room had IMO the correct idea as being a mixer for the studio side of things. For some reason it got turned into a channel strip in C7. Which, IMO does not lend itself to the process very well. As far as telling Steinberg, there are multiple threads with graphics showing the differences. This is just one of numerous threads about the topic.
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Re: Who else loves the control room

Postby mozizo » Sun Nov 17, 2013 9:00 pm

its as JMCecil wrote.. its not the functionality its the visibility. Gui and accessibility to the functions.
they have lot of feedback from users here on new CR gui design, maybe they should let a recording engineer to work with them in real studio/show situation to understand the difficulties with the new design.
but im sure they know it by themselves !!
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Re: Who else loves the control room

Postby Centralmusic » Mon Nov 18, 2013 9:41 am

I also love the ControlRoom and use it 24/7. :mrgreen:
It´s absolutely the right way to integrate the CR into the MixConsole 7!
But...the GUI/implementation... erm.
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Re: Who else loves the control room

Postby Norbury Brook » Mon Nov 18, 2013 11:17 am

JMCecil wrote:@Elektrobolt

It's basically a visibility thing. The control room had IMO the correct idea as being a mixer for the studio side of things. For some reason it got turned into a channel strip in C7. Which, IMO does not lend itself to the process very well. As far as telling Steinberg, there are multiple threads with graphics showing the differences. This is just one of numerous threads about the topic.



Exactly, its a control room mixer. We want it to look and behave like one with vertical sliders like in v6.x not the horizontal way it works now, there's just too much info crammed into a small space.

I could understand if this were a pref for someone with 1 or maybe two small low res monitors, but for those of us with 2 or 3 large hi res monitors then we've the screen real estate to have a horizontal floating mixer.


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Re: Who else loves the control room

Postby twilightsong » Sun Nov 24, 2013 4:52 am

I still use 5.5.2 (but I do own 6 and 7 oddly enough). I see that many of you like the CR; please tell me why... I've opened it a few times, but never dug into it much
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Re: Who else loves the control room

Postby HowlingUlf » Sun Nov 24, 2013 1:52 pm

This is maybe a silly question but the right topic ...
If I don't have a separate control room and studio, mainly work alone, and my patch bay is set up so I hardly ever need to patch anything to break into the normaled connections, is there some real benefit of using the Cubase Control Room then? I've opened it and sort of know my way around and I see how it works but what's in there for me that I don't see?
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Re: Who else loves the control room

Postby The dman » Sun Nov 24, 2013 2:29 pm

HowlingUlf wrote:This is maybe a silly question but the right topic ...
If I don't have a separate control room and studio, mainly work alone, and my patch bay is set up so I hardly ever need to patch anything to break into the normaled connections, is there some real benefit of using the Cubase Control Room then? I've opened it and sort of know my way around and I see how it works but what's in there for me that I don't see?


If you don't have a monitor controller the volume and dim can be handy
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Re: Who else loves the control room

Postby HowlingUlf » Sun Nov 24, 2013 2:32 pm

The dman wrote:
HowlingUlf wrote:This is maybe a silly question but the right topic ...
If I don't have a separate control room and studio, mainly work alone, and my patch bay is set up so I hardly ever need to patch anything to break into the normaled connections, is there some real benefit of using the Cubase Control Room then? I've opened it and sort of know my way around and I see how it works but what's in there for me that I don't see?


If you don't have a monitor controller the volume and dim can be handy


Yeah, the dim! I've gotta investigate the Control Room again for that alone, me thinks! Thanks 8-)
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Re: Who else loves the control room

Postby JMCecil » Sun Nov 24, 2013 2:48 pm

HowlingUlf wrote:This is maybe a silly question but the right topic ...
If I don't have a separate control room and studio, mainly work alone, and my patch bay is set up so I hardly ever need to patch anything to break into the normaled connections, is there some real benefit of using the Cubase Control Room then? I've opened it and sort of know my way around and I see how it works but what's in there for me that I don't see?

Here's a few

Mono checking, multi monitor auditing, alternate mix checking, sub mix leveling, monitoring at a comfortable level without affecting the standards based level that exports ... I'm sure I'm missing a few.
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Re: Who else loves the control room

Postby HowlingUlf » Sun Nov 24, 2013 2:52 pm

JMCecil wrote:
HowlingUlf wrote:This is maybe a silly question but the right topic ...
If I don't have a separate control room and studio, mainly work alone, and my patch bay is set up so I hardly ever need to patch anything to break into the normaled connections, is there some real benefit of using the Cubase Control Room then? I've opened it and sort of know my way around and I see how it works but what's in there for me that I don't see?

Here's a few

Mono checking, multi monitor auditing, alternate mix checking, sub mix leveling, monitoring at a comfortable level without affecting the standards based level that exports ... I'm sure I'm missing a few.

Even better!!!
I'm testing right now so ... 8-)
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