"POLL" Pay for 7.5 on the way for christmas

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How much do you think the 7.5 update will cost

FREE
77
58%
€25
2
2%
€50
35
26%
€100
10
8%
€150
1
1%
€200
8
6%
 
Total votes : 133

Re: "POLL" Pay for 7.5 on the way for christmas

Postby mpayne0 » Wed Nov 06, 2013 4:52 pm

I am at a happy place with Cubase 7.

Besides the odd CPU/ASIO meter peaking (which I just reset and move on), I am moving quickly thru projects.

Unless there's some great feature, like Quick Control II, or user free macro control, I don't need anything right now.
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Re: "POLL" Pay for 7.5 on the way for christmas

Postby Airyck » Wed Nov 06, 2013 6:46 pm

I still haven't upgraded from 6.5... That got me thinking, I could avoid all of the problems by just upgrading at the .5 intervals :lol: :geek:
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Re: "POLL" Pay for 7.5 on the way for christmas

Postby henceforth » Wed Nov 06, 2013 9:11 pm

timmyboylad wrote:The release of Cubase 7 before they had all those problems fixed lowered my confidence level considerably in *Steinberg* to keep me working, trouble free.


To my mind, C7 is nothing short of a revolution and is on par with the innovative practices of the SB conglomerate but I do take the point there have been teething issues but remember when we buy into the software we are in effect swearing an oath of allegiance to the Steinberg cause.
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Re: "POLL" Pay for 7.5 on the way for christmas

Postby Freddie H » Wed Nov 06, 2013 11:52 pm

After reading out the POLL result so far, it seems that the majority have already agreed that it shouldn't cost anything...
I think the same too. :)




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Re: "POLL" Pay for 7.5 on the way for christmas

Postby Prock » Thu Nov 07, 2013 4:24 am

Rhino wrote:Prior to 7.5 we need a free 7.1 or whatever that really fixes all the major workflow bugs and issues (KC focus, workspace/mixer integration, mixer zoom bugs for me, there are many other legit complaints), finally making it what 7.0 should have been right away, i.e. 6.5 plus the stuff in the "what's new in 7", in a reasonably bug free release.
Not 6.5 plus the stuff in the "what's new in 7" plus "a surprise package of undocumented losses" complete with bug city down to font sizes ...
Steinberg, please, get your stuff right this time with 7.1, fix what users desperately need to see fixed and you can count me in for a paid 7.5 a week later or a year later, doesn't matter.
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Oh, and as a bonus for all the waiting - can we get back visible muted notes in the drum editor, please ? :?



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Re: "POLL" Pay for 7.5 on the way for christmas

Postby Arc » Thu Nov 07, 2013 5:32 am

Let me dream for a second as to what features/updates I'd be willing to pay for...

- Put MIDI CC automation data into automation lanes similar to the kind you get when you record VST changes with the mouse.
- Bounce in-place
- A better designed MixConsole. I like the MC, I just think it has a mediocre GUI design.
- More/better Quick Controls...
- Fix manual beat grid editing in 64-bit...
and finally...
- MAKE VSTs STAY IN FRONT OF THE MIXCONSOLE ALREADY!!!!~!~

But overall I enjoy C7 a lot and rarely have any problems with it. I'd still rather use Cubase over any other DAW even with this small list of quirks.
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Re: "POLL" Pay for 7.5 on the way for christmas

Postby sonicassault » Thu Nov 07, 2013 8:35 am

Arc wrote:- MAKE VSTs STAY IN FRONT OF THE MIXCONSOLE ALREADY!!!!~!~


+1!!

As Rhino said, we need a 7.1, which runs proper, that means especially the mixer.
No need for more Plugins. Let the VSTs stay infront, that's the main wish.
Fullscreen mixer ist still not usable till now, nearly one year after release of 7.0...
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Re: "POLL" Pay for 7.5 on the way for christmas

Postby curteye » Thu Nov 07, 2013 10:45 am

Seems like most posters want it 'free'.

What are the odds that will happen?

I say 80/20 against.
(ahh that old 8:2 ratio seems to pop up all over the place)

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Re: "POLL" Pay for 7.5 on the way for christmas

Postby lukasbrooklyn » Thu Nov 07, 2013 11:37 am

indeed people will always vote for anything to be free. that's not equitable, and everyone knows, but still, free is better, right? ;] DAWs are comparatively dirt cheap, relative to what can be achieved with them. i'd be gladly willing to pay multiples of the asking price if they were bug-free. in a completely utopic scenario, i'd pay, say, $2k, and have $1 reimbursed for each crash of the DAW -- as a form of incentive, of sorts -- to the devs. :-]
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Re: "POLL" Pay for 7.5 on the way for christmas

Postby curteye » Thu Nov 07, 2013 11:49 am

lukasbrooklyn wrote:i'd pay, say, $2k, and have $1 reimbursed for each crash of the DAW -- as a form of incentive, of sorts -- to the devs. :-]


Nice idea indeed.

But they would then probably want complete control
over every aspect of the DAW.

Including hardware, externals, 1st born. etc etc. :)

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Re: "POLL" Pay for 7.5 on the way for christmas

Postby TheNavigator » Thu Nov 07, 2013 12:05 pm

I'd prefer an EUR 49,- upgrade price over EUR 0,-.

But we should get a plugin manager, moving channels in the mixer, no more plugin hiding behind the mixer and controller automapping in return.
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Re: "POLL" Pay for 7.5 on the way for christmas

Postby G-string » Thu Nov 07, 2013 1:57 pm

curteye wrote:Seems like most posters want it 'free'.

What are the odds that will happen?

I say 80/20 against.
(ahh that old 8:2 ratio seems to pop up all over the place)

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Re: "POLL" Pay for 7.5 on the way for christmas

Postby curteye » Thu Nov 07, 2013 2:21 pm

G-string wrote:
curteye wrote:Seems like most posters want it 'free'.

What are the odds that will happen?

I say 80/20 against.
(ahh that old 8:2 ratio seems to pop up all over the place)

{'-'}


weel Curt you would have to be a bit deranged if you actually wanted to pay for an update :lol: :lol:


YMMV.
But I am curious which 5 posters ticked the '€200' option.
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Re: "POLL" Pay for 7.5 on the way for christmas

Postby G-string » Thu Nov 07, 2013 2:22 pm

curteye wrote:YMMV
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Re: "POLL" Pay for 7.5 on the way for christmas

Postby curteye » Thu Nov 07, 2013 2:27 pm

G-string wrote:
curteye wrote:YMMV
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WTHDTM ?


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Re: "POLL" Pay for 7.5 on the way for christmas

Postby Buchanan » Thu Nov 07, 2013 5:32 pm

Don't you know? Cubase 8 is on the way with orchestral scoring for50euros. Me? I'm off out to look for a double onesie for me and my "friend".
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Re: "POLL" Pay for 7.5 on the way for christmas

Postby chris995 » Thu Nov 07, 2013 7:03 pm

Im pretty sure the next time i wont be upgrading as soon as it comes, will wait this time and see if all the bugs get ironed out as i couldn't be dealing with any issues like the mixer the last time :)
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Re: "POLL" Pay for 7.5 on the way for christmas

Postby curteye » Thu Nov 07, 2013 11:14 pm

chris995 wrote:Im pretty sure the next time i wont be upgrading as soon as it comes, will wait this time and see if all the bugs get ironed out as i couldn't be dealing with any issues like the mixer the last time :)


IMHO that's a very smart (non) move.
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Re: "POLL" Pay for 7.5 on the way for christmas

Postby Patanjali » Sat Nov 09, 2013 9:29 pm

lukasbrooklyn wrote:i'd donate a sizable sum if they scrapped the mixer and pretend it never existed.

What, and go back to the hobbled looks-like-dumb-hardware inflexible rock of past versions?

Yes, they could make it simpler to configure, but I would only want more flexibility, especially in regards to touch-friendliness.
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Re: "POLL" Pay for 7.5 on the way for christmas

Postby G-string » Sat Nov 09, 2013 9:31 pm

Patanjali wrote:
lukasbrooklyn wrote:i'd donate a sizable sum if they scrapped the mixer and pretend it never existed.

What, and go back to the hobbled looks-like-dumb-hardware inflexible rock of past versions?

Yes, they could make it simpler to configure, but I would only want more flexibility, especially in regards to touch-friendliness.

you seem to be on a one man mission when it comes to wanting Cubase touch friendly , the mixers in enough mess without wanting to reign it even more
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Re: "POLL" Pay for 7.5 on the way for christmas

Postby TheNavigator » Sat Nov 09, 2013 9:32 pm

No, he's not.

I would like touch screen compatibility, too. Bought myself an Avid Artist Control today, but still want the option to tap the screen, time and again.
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Re: "POLL" Pay for 7.5 on the way for christmas

Postby Patanjali » Sat Nov 09, 2013 9:38 pm

Whatever, us Australian will pay 50% more than everyone else, which is galling as it doesn't cost them any more for us download it to here.

Several years ago, BY (before Yamaha), an upgrade was to be 50% more than anywhere else. Australian users, en masse, took to the forums to register their disapproval, basically dismissing dismal justifications from the then distributors about how much it cost to promote, demonstrate and support Cubase, because, as anyone in Australia knows, distributors don't do much to earn their keep and are almost irrelevant in relation to upgrades.
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Re: "POLL" Pay for 7.5 on the way for christmas

Postby TheNavigator » Sat Nov 09, 2013 9:42 pm

Same situation in Europe, Patanjali.

Software is very cheap in the USA, but in Europe we pay like crazy, and not only because we are burdened with VAT... a US citizen can get, for example, Reason 7 for EUR 240,-while a European, like me, has to pay a staggering EUR 369,- for the same product.

This is a very discriminatory practice.

And who needs distributors anyway? What we need is a big download server, because the Internet is worldwide, it's just the "manager" guys who still live in the 19th century where we had stupid borders.
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Re: "POLL" Pay for 7.5 on the way for christmas

Postby Patanjali » Sat Nov 09, 2013 9:44 pm

G-string wrote:the mixers in enough mess

It is in a mess because the 'flexibility' has been designed inelegantly, but the shift to include more varied capability is long overdue.
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Re: "POLL" Pay for 7.5 on the way for christmas

Postby TheNavigator » Sat Nov 09, 2013 9:47 pm

Patanjali wrote:
G-string wrote:the mixers in enough mess

It is in a mess because the 'flexibility' has been designed inelegantly, but the shift to include more varied capability is long overdue.


No sane product owner (a role in SCRUM based development) would allow a product with so many bugs to be released, so I guess it was a terribad management decision.

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