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Moving MIDI Notes

Postby forthwith » Sat Nov 16, 2013 10:30 pm

Hi,

When I click and drag MIDI notes they are moved to what appears to be a quantize value or part thereof.

Can we instead move notes up and down the piano display without moving from side to side?

Most annoying for a newly minted composer of music such as myself.
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Re: Moving MIDI Notes

Postby jaslan » Sat Nov 16, 2013 10:33 pm

Grab the note, move it up or down, then hold CTRL before releasing the note. It should lock it vertically.
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Re: Moving MIDI Notes

Postby forthwith » Sat Nov 16, 2013 10:43 pm

jaslan wrote:Grab the note, move it up or down, then hold CTRL before releasing the note. It should lock it vertically.


It does, but I'd rather the default be to not use quantize.

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Re: Moving MIDI Notes

Postby curteye » Sat Nov 16, 2013 10:48 pm

Aloha f
Here is what I do:

1-Turn off 'snap'.(in the Menu Bar)
2-Select the note(s).
3-Use the arrow keys to move note(s) up or down.
and 'bob's yer uncle'.

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Re: Moving MIDI Notes

Postby forthwith » Sat Nov 16, 2013 10:55 pm

curteye wrote:1-Turn off 'snap'.(in the Menu Bar)
2-Select the note(s).
3-Use the arrow keys to move note(s) up or down.
and 'bob's yer uncle'.

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Ok, but would that not effect how for example drum notes are dealt with in drum maps (which I'd argue should be dealt with separately)?
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Re: Moving MIDI Notes

Postby curteye » Sat Nov 16, 2013 11:17 pm

forthwith wrote:but would that not effect how for example drum notes are dealt with in drum maps


Yes.

What we are really talking about is 'MIDI Events'.

If you did the above movement on a piano track it would only change the note,
but on a drum track the same procedure would change the 'sounding' instrument.

Your 1st post was about keeping these MIDI events 'aligned' up and down the piano roll.
This would do just that.

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Re: Moving MIDI Notes

Postby forthwith » Sat Nov 16, 2013 11:26 pm

curteye wrote:If you did the above movement on a piano track it would only change the note, but on a drum track the same procedure would change the 'sounding' instrument.


Thanks for replying.

I meant when you turn off snap.
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Re: Moving MIDI Notes

Postby jaslan » Sat Nov 16, 2013 11:36 pm

Maybe I misunderstand your goal but, I just tried this on C6.5.5 and with SNAP ON, and a note that is NOT lined up with the snap setting, if I move it vertically, initially, it aligns with the snap setting. But, then, if I press CTRL it immediately "jumps" to the same time position it was on originally.
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Re: Moving MIDI Notes

Postby jaslan » Sat Nov 16, 2013 11:38 pm

forthwith wrote:
jaslan wrote:Grab the note, move it up or down, then hold CTRL before releasing the note. It should lock it vertically.


It does, but I'd rather the default be to not use quantize.

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Again, perhaps I misunderstand, but quantize has no bearing on the vertical "lock" modifier key (CTRL).
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Re: Moving MIDI Notes

Postby forthwith » Sat Nov 16, 2013 11:46 pm

jaslan wrote:Again, perhaps I misunderstand, but quantize has no bearing on the vertical "lock" modifier key (CTRL).
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No, that's right but when you need to move literally dozens of notes per hour, such as when transposing parts manually it gets a bit tiring.

In other words the mouse is not an instrument and my view is it should NOT effect note placement in and of itself.

In addition the function should not require a modifier and really it goes to how there is a difference between what developers see as functional and what users actually require.
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Re: Moving MIDI Notes

Postby JMCecil » Sat Nov 16, 2013 11:50 pm

You can also use relative snap by the way.

And it seems like the requested feature changed topics like 3 times.

In the ME .. You can use ctrl to lock horizontal position as you move note events up. You can also use the arrow key with relative mode on without having to worry about snapping to the grid.

Drums are an entire different issue, but have similar combinations that will work just this way.

The MIDI events in the project window is an entire different issue, but have similar combinations that will work just this way.
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Re: Moving MIDI Notes

Postby jaslan » Sun Nov 17, 2013 12:28 am

JMCecil wrote:You can also use relative snap by the way.

Ding, DIng, Ding... I have never used it before but I just tried it and I think this is the solution!
Thanks for the tip, Jeff!
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Re: Moving MIDI Notes

Postby forthwith » Sun Nov 17, 2013 2:54 am

JMCecil wrote:You can also use relative snap by the way.


I checked in the manual but there's no information about this that I could find.
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Re: Moving MIDI Notes

Postby jaslan » Sun Nov 17, 2013 3:18 am

Check for the Snap mode called, "grid relative".
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