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Postby mozizo » Mon Nov 18, 2013 5:08 am

i thought that maybe Halion users having sharing thread could be a nice place for... well-- sharing sounds :)
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Re: sharing user sounds thread !

Postby Cantankerous » Mon Nov 18, 2013 11:57 am

I think this is a great idea.
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Re: sharing user sounds thread !

Postby Whirly » Mon Nov 18, 2013 2:20 pm

I totally support this. Would posting a download link to a dropbox folder be working for this purpose?
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Re: sharing user sounds thread !

Postby mpayne0 » Mon Nov 18, 2013 7:59 pm

Sounds good.

Also could be useful for finding existing sounds.
I'm looking for a sparkly fairy dust kind of sound, like chiming little bells in the wind. I'm sure there are options in the media bay, but don't know where to start.

Surely could be a user sound section for these purposes.
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Re: sharing user sounds thread !

Postby Cantankerous » Mon Nov 18, 2013 8:13 pm

mpayne0 wrote:Sounds good.

Also could be useful for finding existing sounds.
I'm looking for a sparkly fairy dust kind of sound, like chiming little bells in the wind. I'm sure there are options in the media bay, but don't know where to start.

Surely could be a user sound section for these purposes.


Check the factory content, and filter to the layer presets. There are a few of these there, as I love those kinds of sounds too.
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Re: sharing user sounds thread !

Postby mpayne0 » Wed Nov 20, 2013 4:41 pm

Cantankerous wrote:
mpayne0 wrote:Sounds good.

Also could be useful for finding existing sounds.
I'm looking for a sparkly fairy dust kind of sound, like chiming little bells in the wind. I'm sure there are options in the media bay, but don't know where to start.

Surely could be a user sound section for these purposes.


Check the factory content, and filter to the layer presets. There are a few of these there, as I love those kinds of sounds too.

Thanks man. I did a search via category, character and even word search with terms like bell, chime, etc. I found mainly padshop, gritty kinda sounds. I needed a natural classy wind chime, they are used a lot in hip hop. I need the acoustic variation but at this point, I'd get by with synthetic.

I will try again in layer presets, admit that the lists were too long for me to really listen one by one.

I think this thread should just sticky right now, as we can just carry on. Nothing wrong with a loose format to share/find/ or advise sounds in H5.
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Re: sharing user sounds thread !

Postby fstaudio » Fri Nov 29, 2013 10:27 pm

Hmm, what this thread needs is presets.... :idea:

....so here's some to kick things off. 8-)
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Re: sharing user sounds thread !

Postby Cantankerous » Sat Nov 30, 2013 2:59 am

fstaudio wrote:Hmm, what this thread needs is presets.... :idea:

....so here's some to kick things off. 8-)


Thanks for this. Downloading now and will check it out tomorrow, when I get in from work. 8-)
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Re: sharing user sounds thread !

Postby mpayne0 » Sat Nov 30, 2013 4:51 pm

fstaudio wrote:Hmm, what this thread needs is presets.... :idea:

....so here's some to kick things off. 8-)

okay! :D

This should inspire me to get carvin' myself!
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Re: sharing user sounds thread !

Postby G-string » Mon Dec 02, 2013 12:08 am

I think this needs to be a highlighted sticky .

very good idea , im on the case as well ;-)
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Re: sharing user sounds thread !

Postby Whirly » Mon Dec 02, 2013 10:58 am

fstaudio wrote:Hmm, what this thread needs is presets.... :idea:

....so here's some to kick things off. 8-)


Thanks for sharing. I'll check these out when I'm home from work 8-)
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Re: sharing user sounds thread !

Postby fstaudio » Mon Dec 02, 2013 6:15 pm

Whirly wrote:Thanks for sharing. I'll check these out when I'm home from work 8-)

No probs, but don't go expecting quality now :lol:

Updated set fixes a dumb-ass error.

Ages ago I did a quick 'n dirty port of the Blakus Cello. It's here, though you may have to fix the sample references, hopefully the vstsound container works as expected but I don't think anyone's ever downloaded it to find out.
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Re: sharing user sounds thread !

Postby Whirly » Sun Dec 08, 2013 6:31 pm

EDIT: it might turn you off, but here's a raw file of me improvising for 13 min. with this preset in one program slot.
https://soundcloud.com/vbre/ambient-percussionist


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Let me follow up with a fresh preset of today.

Ambient Percussionist
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/2g5p4dslobqjdqg/Lyub4mBlH0/VB%20Ambient%20Percussionist

As the name suggest it's probably most useful in an Ambient context, but please check it out, maybe you'll find other use for it. The percussion are manipulated Vibraphone and Guiro sounds that comes with the preset, which is why the dl file is 3 MB.

Be aware of some resonant spikes if increasing the Resonance nob.
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Re: sharing user sounds thread !

Postby fstaudio » Wed Dec 11, 2013 11:58 pm

Whirly wrote:Let me follow up with a fresh preset of today.

Ambient Percussionist
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/2g5p4dslobqjdqg/Lyub4mBlH0/VB%20Ambient%20Percussionist

Very nice 8-)
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Re: sharing user sounds thread !

Postby mozizo » Thu Dec 12, 2013 8:21 pm

some kanun ,oud and scat vocal programs
the kanun and oud are from old Akai sample libraries and i just made them to practice building H5 sampled programs ,the scat vocal are from samples came on CD with my aging Motif Es when i purchased it ,and build the samples in H3 long time ago.
for me sometimes those are useful for more middle eastern music and some jazzy fun playing ;)

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/239 ... t%20H5.zip Live scat

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/239 ... n%20H5.zip Kanun and oud
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Re: sharing user sounds thread !

Postby mpayne0 » Fri Dec 13, 2013 3:32 pm

I will have some time off for the holidays here, and I'm in between songs. Hopefully finally will have time to dig in, and make some sounds!

I will probably have questions if that's okay.
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Re: sharing user sounds thread !

Postby roel » Fri Apr 04, 2014 11:58 am

aha, here i may be finding some answers. I'm also wanting to do some exchange of presets.
Have the sonic 2, and i'm in demo for H5.
H5 is a little overweight for my intentions, but if there would be some content sharing that would be a good reason to make the upgrade. (that isn't that expensive) And even maybe to do some content of my own.

But: i have still questions i do not know about the vstpreset content and the way to exchange things in HS5.

1/ the vstpreset content is able to contain the user samples that are integrated into it ?
2/ the vstpreset content is able to contain userpresets for for example the flesphrasers ?
3/ the vstpreset content is able to contain user layers ?

I ask this because i had previously a little communication with simon stockhausen.
He is able to make a custom bank for example for halion 5... so it is possible... but he also said that is not possible for the halion sonic 2 version.

So: i would be very glad to be able to have some info about the way of integrating the user content of a preset (or even a bank) into an exchangeable format. If this is vstpreset or any other thing that is ok. If i can do it, the rests is just the way to do it.

Is that possible with the vstpreset format ?
Do i need other tools or other things to got to such a point ?

thanx for the help!

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Re: sharing user sounds thread !

Postby mpayne0 » Fri Apr 04, 2014 1:40 pm

I'm so glad you are asking :lol: I want to know but I can't formulate these questions.

There's VST Sound, VST preset, programs, I don't understand the nuances.

The way I understand it is that there is protected content and unprotected content, we can't package new sounds with protected content ex. I can't layer NeoSoulKeys as a layer/zone, and send that to you. I can't import my old unsupported, discontinued HSO samples as layers of supersaws... at least I don't think I can. I don't know how it works for samples that you bring in from other libraries...

I'd like to at least get something very simple done, just to get the process going (yeah I always say that haha)
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Re: sharing user sounds thread !

Postby roel » Fri Apr 04, 2014 1:55 pm

but it is possible since even 3th party products can be made for Halion 5.

i have been experimenting with the Halion Sonic and i can confirm that you indeed can include protected layers in a vst-preset because i was able to do so with the Symphonic Package. But the condition to play them is that you have the same vst package. So that is very limiting the options.

i can understand that protected content isn't going to be allowed in peoples users presets with content to be open to others who do not own that package.
But user presets of the different components (like flexphraser), and f.e. user samples are not protected in any way and if they could be included in the vstpreset, that would be a big difference. It is just... how do you do that.

that is the reason why we are here, and the forum is here.
We learn from them, and as i have seen you a lot on other posts, i can maybe confirm, we both also try to add positive help to others topics. So let's just wait untill one of the more experienced sound devs reads this and helps us with this.
:) There certainly are such kind people here i hope :)

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Re: sharing user sounds thread !

Postby roel » Fri Apr 04, 2014 2:22 pm

in the spare time allready found one of the answers in the manual.

Samples can be exported together with the corresponding program or layer as VST presets, or on their own. In both cases, you use the “Export Samples…” option on the Program Tree context menu. For VST presets, the corresponding dialog has additional preset options.
•To export a VST preset, select the program or layer in the Program Tree. On the context menu, open the Import/Export submenu, and select “Export Samples…”.
This opens the Export Preset with Samples dialog.
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Re: sharing user sounds thread !

Postby roel » Fri Apr 04, 2014 2:26 pm

but the question if user presets for f.e. the flexphraser, and user presets on layer level are included in the vstformat remains...

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Re: sharing user sounds thread !

Postby MrSoundman » Fri Apr 04, 2014 9:29 pm

roel wrote:Samples can be exported together with the corresponding program or layer as VST presets
I've tried this and it works with my own sounds as long as they stay in the same place on the same computer, but if I move them to a different computer (or even to a different disk on the same computer) it gets broken. It appears that the full path is getting saved somewhere.

I haven't been able to find a way to save a single "blob" file that contains both samples and multiple presets.
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Re: sharing user sounds thread !

Postby RajahP » Fri Apr 04, 2014 11:00 pm

fstaudio wrote:Hmm, what this thread needs is presets.... :idea:

....so here's some to kick things off. 8-)



Thank you...
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Re: sharing user sounds thread !

Postby roel » Fri Apr 04, 2014 11:31 pm

i bought it after demoing it for a few weeks and today for me was very interesting. i started reading the manual. :)
even with having good results on the fly this is a must do.
halion 5 isnt overkill at all for me. after quickreading the manual this is something that is technically years beyond everything else i have seen (once you get the picture).
but it seems that there are very few people who see the power of this vsti as f.e. the presets compared to the engine are really from the stoneage and no one else seems to use it as far as i could notice. So the tech guys give you the means, but the show-off guys are not using it.
that is why this tread is a must have for a future release. preset sharing...

in fact the combination of the flexphraser, the midiplayer and the drumthing combined with the perfect integration and exchange possibilities back and forward from one to the other in cubase are far better then anything f.e. specrasonics, native instruments and the rest of the competition have been showing as we speak (but for most speaking about creating interesting automated midi data)
this is completely limitless if your goal is automated orchestration.
and the factory content is a bit outdated. So extra soundpacks are welcome here, but then again they are protected. That is a bit a drawback. Everything should be done from groundlevel.

i will be posting a vst sound file within a couple of weeks.

tip: if someone is looking on the exchange front of how to: look in the manual for "vst sound file".
(not the presets)

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Re: sharing user sounds thread !

Postby mpayne0 » Sat Apr 05, 2014 3:03 pm

Spectrasonics can do some pretty amazing modular stuff too, but H5 is ( I wouldn't say overkill either, but) mind-blowing, and a bit hard to digest at once. I can't wait for the day when I can breeze thru it and comprehend every detail.

I agree though, it is so powerful... I imagine the presets have been carried over from earlier versions, maybe updated for compatibility?

When it comes to flex phrase, though, it's kinda beat oriented which takes it into subjective/per genre territory, so it can be hard to fit into your music, but that all depends of course. I'm actually most interested in hybrid instruments that have wild morphs and transitions, but still sound like classic instruments. So my focus is all on trigger, layer alt, and KS. For a dumb artist like me, it's gonna take time :lol:
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