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3 Monitor Recommendation?

Postby suntower » Tue Mar 11, 2014 7:48 am

I haven't used 3 monitors since Matrox days so I'm outta touch on this.

1. Are there any cheap, fanless video cards? I really don't want/need any elaborate GPUs.

2. Anyone mounting the 3rd monitor ABOVE the other 2? (like a pyramid?) I've seen people (traders) do this, but the hardware is pricey. Any cheap solutions?

I do NOT want to do 3 across as I found it -really- was an acoustic disaster. I'd rather stick with 2 if a cheap 'pyramid' solution couldn't be done cheaply.

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Re: 3 Monitor Recommendation?

Postby Jarno » Tue Mar 11, 2014 9:38 am

suntower wrote:1. Are there any cheap, fanless video cards?

What is cheap? You should be able to find Radeon 5450-based cards at around $40.
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Re: 3 Monitor Recommendation?

Postby BriHar » Tue Mar 11, 2014 9:43 am

Some Graphic cards offer virtual monitors or screen workspaces with soft switching between. It's not ideal, but if real-estate is tight...
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Re: 3 Monitor Recommendation?

Postby suntower » Tue Mar 11, 2014 6:39 pm

Jarno wrote:
suntower wrote:1. Are there any cheap, fanless video cards?

What is cheap? You should be able to find Radeon 5450-based cards at around $40.


Cheap enough! Cheers.

Now... anyone have a cheap way to mount monitor in a pyramid?

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Re: 3 Monitor Recommendation?

Postby Patanjali » Wed Mar 12, 2014 7:36 am

suntower wrote:Now... anyone have a cheap way to mount monitor in a pyramid?

I used stuff called Metal-Mate to build custom mounting frames for up to four Dell 30" in an inverted-T, along with all the speakers, here showing the rear view of the most recent build with a more modest two monitors:
SOK-MUS.Monitor+Speaker frame.2013-01-12.jpg
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All the monitors and speakers are mounted to it via VESA plates for easy removal. The plates cost me more than all the rest of the metal-work.

Metal-Mate is like Meccano for adults, and I used it to build the inner and outer frames that hold all the studio foam in place, as per:
SOK-MUS.Studio side & DAW desk.2013-03-24.jpg
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Metal-Mate is soft iron, which means it:
a) Needs several pieces bolted together for strength.
b) Absorbs speaker vibrations very well, including those of the sub-woofer.

The metal is available in Australia from Bunnings and Mitre-10, but if buying enough, can be bought directly from the makers, RCR.
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Re: 3 Monitor Recommendation?

Postby Patanjali » Wed Mar 12, 2014 8:17 am

As for video cards, preferably go for as many outputs as you need on a single card, rather than multiple video cards. Just seems less driver issues and heat that way.

I am down to a single ATI2460 silent low-profile twin-GPU quad-mDP (mini DisplayPort) card now to drive 2 x 30" at 2650x1600, and 2 x 23.5" touchscreens at 1920x1080, with each GPU driving a 30" and a 23.5" to spread the heat, as every pixel displayed requires more power. AMD lists the card as suitable for driving video walls of monitors, and that is probably the class of card best suited for DAW work, rather than a video games card.


AMD OEM cards a bargain at Amazon US for overseas buyers
FYI, outside the US, AMD video cards can be purchased from Amazon US from most places in the world, which can mean substantial savings. My ATI2460s were just over a 1/3 the price that they cost in Australia, and that includes shipping. Unfortunately, Amazon doesn't have the same arrangement with nVidia, and it is only for AMD OEM cards, not their partners' ones.


mDP under-engineered
I had originally been interested in nVidia NVS450-based cards, which had full-size DisplayPort (DP), rather than mDP, which I find rather under-engineered, with the cables putting a lot of stress on the non-locking connectors.

mDP cable rates
The other thing I found with mDP is that not all cables are equal. Most mDP cables will be designed for the likes of the Apple 2560x1440 and are rated for under 9GHz signals. My Dell 30" are 2560x1600 and would not work with some of the cables because they really need the 10+GHz ones. Once bitten, twice shy! The 10GHz ones have thicker cables, putting even more stress on the card's connectors.

Fortunately, neither the originals nor the new cost a lot, but it was still money down the drain. After all the bloggers raging on about how cables did not make much difference to HDMI performance, I would be looking for frequency rating for cables in the future, especially for HMDI 2.0 ones, which because of a new encoding protocol, do not need anywhere like double the frequency of HDMI 1.4 to handle 4K at 60Hz, but it is still possibly above what the cheaper existing cables will handle.

The DisplayPort cables I have were supplied with the monitors and would probably handle the rates. They also look a lot more heavy duty than the mDP cables.

4K at 50/60Hz options
When we find suitable 4K TV/monitors, I will get a quad output card that can drive them. The problem is that even the second-generation 4K TVs are only using HDMI 2.0 rather than DisplayPort 1.2, which is the only 4K/60Hz option from current video cards. The upcoming Sony 49X850B/40X8500B looks to be a suitable size for DAW use.
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