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Re: THANK YOU STEINBERG!! Cubase 7 and Cubase 7.5 are amazin

Lets face it Cubase has to be more than an alternative to Pro Tools.
For me the fact that is more than just a studio recording software is it's strength. I am a guitarist but love playing about with sounds and going places I have never been before. Steinberg has always been a DAW that encourages us to think outside the box. (I have been using Loopmash to re-sample my playing.) I guess that is why there are so many bugs, because they want to be so many things to so many users. I for one love that. I certainly am glad that I am am not stuck in a studio with bands rehashing all the old clichés - I would rather rehash my own and perhaps add a few unexpected things on the way.

I am not knocking those of you who run studios. Far from it, I think you do wonderful stuff and provide a really valuable service. Not to mention living a financially precarious life. However I baulk at the use that many people make of the word professional, as if it is a passport to some higher plane of knowledge and creativity. What is a DAW professional? I mean anyone can claim whatever they like on a forum and nobody would be any the wiser. After all did I not just claim to be guitarist.

The value of Cubase to me is not it's perfection, because it quite plainly isn't. It is its versatility and the possibilities that it offers its users. I may not be the best musician, but I have the best fun. Sure I get cross with Steinberg at times and irritated with Cubase. I am sure we could say the same about our partners, as they could about us. However, we still love them in spite of all that. That is the value of a long term relationship.
by silhouette
Mon Dec 16, 2013 1:46 pm
 
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Re: Producers around the world

If you want to get a job DONE audio file handling is fine. However, if you just want to play around with the audio files all day trying to polish toids then Cubase is maybe not for you.
The end game is MUSIC. Nobody notices or cares about how clever the processing is. So the drummer can play the four types of paradiddle? So you've corrected his timing to the nth degree and the singers tuning from horse's ass to angels? The listener rarely notices.
I don't think it bothers the majority of users.
by Buchanan
Mon Dec 30, 2013 4:23 pm
 
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Re: Cubase 7.5 is top! But i'm not ready to go 8...

Aloha S,

Sectioned wrote:i can't see any new features coming that i need


Oh Yea?
Let them give us 'movable rails' in the Mix Console
and watch almost everyone jump.

{'-'}
by curteye
Sat Feb 22, 2014 11:06 am
 
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Re: 7.5.20 Impressions...

Just about all the little features in C7 -> C7.5.20 is exactly what I like when I see it. People are different. Right now I'm very happy with the directions Cubase is heading in!!! 8-) 8-) 8-)
by HowlingUlf
Mon Apr 14, 2014 12:38 pm
 
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Re: 7.5.20 Impressions...

LOL.
Imperial Theme? yes, it looks great.
But...
It´s ONLY the mixer (!) - incl. stupid tiny buttons!!, not scalable, problems with small flat screens, e.g. :roll:
nevertheless:
Reaper´s menu´s, plugin windows, preferences, etc. etc. looks like Office Windows 95 GUI style (!)
very ugly. Sorry.

:?






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by Centralmusic
Tue Apr 15, 2014 12:22 pm
 
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Re: Cubase 8 Pro was not ready for public release

Simple question.

If C8 could have used "3 to 6 more months in the oven" to be ready (in whoever's opinion), why didn't you just wait 3 to 6 months to get it?

Just use what you had for a while and get C8 later. If you think it's "always a beta", just let others "beta test" it and tippy toe in later. Impotent ranting is really not going to fix anything. It's just not.

Sorry for those having major issues. Happy for those (which is most) who are not!

Use what works. Get stuff done.
by Getalife2
Sun Jan 11, 2015 8:25 am
 
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Re: cubase pro 8.0.5 unstable

Not a single crash, very stable, fast and reliable here.
by peakae
Mon Jan 12, 2015 7:38 am
 
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Re: Cubase 8 Pro was not ready for public release

It doesn't irritate me what-so-ever, not sure how you got that impression.

Let me help you there:

Be assured that our opinion on the quality of this release will not be adjusted by the fact that it works fine for you

Sounds pretty irritated to me.

So to be clear. A thread is started boldly stating (not questioning) that C8 was not ready for public release. Some loudly agree. However, when it is pointed out that many are getting on with it fine - yes, very much including those of us who use it for a living - this is of no relevance whatsoever. Indeed, we are to "be assured" of its irrelvance. Ditto when you compare with competitors at 10x the price yet far worse performance, this is also brushed aside as irrelevant.

It's the definitive point at which this thread demonstrates it has no value. Regardless of what facts and opinions are considered, it will not matter. Some folks here want a jolly good rant, and they're going to have it, inconvenient facts be dammned, and shame on us for spoiling that particular ranty party. As for the idea that now the thread should about turn and become more cerebral and analytical - perhaps starting with a less infantile subject header might be a thought.

I would love nothing more than to spend 2 hours going through everything else point by point (as we all know there's nothing more intellectually stimulating that reading forum arguments that spiral into ever decreasing circles of petulance after all), but I really must be off to earn that living.
by noiseboyuk
Mon Jan 12, 2015 10:02 am
 
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Re: Cubase 8 Pro was not ready for public release

All my Slate plugins VCC, VBC, VTM and SSD4 and rock solid as VST 2.4 and VST 3 in CP8.0 and now CP8.05.

I should mention I'm running CP8 as a 64bit app and my Slate plugins are all 64bit.
by themarqueeyears
Wed Jan 21, 2015 3:32 pm
 
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Re: 8.0.5 Still no minimize button?

Not pointing at any individual or user, but I would like to propose some questions and give my opinion:

I just wonder what benefit comes from referring to Cubase programmers as possibly being monkeys or stoners or whatever. Think that is going to help the progress of the product or enhance your quality of support for the software?

How many complex computer programs have the ones who say things like this created themselves? Obviously none.

Yeah, I understand that there are bugs and not every users workflow is addressed. But realize, you are probably the same people who complain about waiting on the runway while an commercial airliner is about to propel you through the sky and get you to another location way quicker than if you walked there.

Appreciate that nothing is perfect. Even if it were, the task of making such complex software work perfect on hardware that has so many variations, has got to be almost impossible.

That being said, this is obviously not the same as flying. Recording software does not involve risk of death. But then a true professional would not upgrade to a new version without proper testing. So...
by jimmys69
Mon Jan 12, 2015 12:39 am
 
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Re: 8.0.10 is here

its so easy to please Cubase users! Here's how its done...101 style.

1:/ remove basic function thats been present since Cubase 1.0 [eg Metronome]
2:/ update Cubase and re-instate basic function thats been present since Cubase 1.0 [Metronome]
3:/ experience happy customers bouncing around everywhere throwing praise and joy for the brilliant programmers at Steinberg for re-instating basic function thats been present since Cubase 1.0 [Metronome] ! yay for Steinberg and Cubase they are so cool ! Metronome works!

is this right? or am i missing something?

4:/ getting rid of idiots & trolls that show little respect for the marvels of the worlds most advanced DAW would get me jumping up and down for joy.

5: Getting rid of fanboys who think a BASIC metronome is not an important function in a DAW thats so advanced and marvelous would make me smile as well :oops: :shock: A correctly working metronome would show respect for the customer :roll:

Never been called a Fanboy before, always thought that was a slur reserved for the Apple guys. I must admit that it took me about two minutes to set up a work around so I never got my panties in a knot like some of the princesses on here. Now the problem is fixed but the princesses still remain. Anyway back to the star of the show, C8 Pro, woo hoo! :roll: :arrow: :(
by shreddin
Fri Mar 13, 2015 5:20 pm
 
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Re: An open plea to Steinberg

Hello,

HughH knows exactly about this...releasing a version with non-working MCU. That happened not once, but twice in the past couple years. I'm pretty sure Steinberg knew about non-working MCU prior to it's release, yet they decided to release it...not working.

Please stop speculating about things you don't know, you have been warned several times about it, this is libel and the tone of your posts always flirts with slander. No, we didn't know that the MCU integration was broken, it was not on the QA list for that release. I was the first to report it after Hugh posted it on our forum, since then we have added permanently a controller to the QA studio and this will be tested, so, we learned of our mistake and we will see it doesn't happen again. You make it sound like we are some sort of evil corporation that knowingly dumps contaminant chemicals into the river...

OFF Topic: (sorry about it) Imagine it would happen to you on your household. E.g. Your kid got a couple of "F"s and all the other parents start posting on the school board (in case there is one) I'm pretty sure Gregg hits his kids, I am pretty sure he is never home and never helps them, I am pretty sure he drinks a lot, and so on... how would you feel? Well, that is how we feel, because we do make honest mistakes, but we are proud of our company and our products and it is very upsetting to read that kind of slander, this is your last warning.

We are passionate of what we do and for the same reason we try to do it as best as possible.

Best regards,
GN
by Guillermo
Wed Dec 16, 2015 10:30 am
 
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Re: An open plea to Steinberg

can we at least have an acknowledgement of what is on the table
Yes, it's good that there is action taken; collecting opinions, sharing, prioritisation, assessment for implementation.
Very good.

I'm not sure about if this is about Feature Requests only (since it talks about implementation), does it also include the more important issues people are having (implementation), or also other stuff (like a plan to have a more solid and issue free product, improved communication and things like that) as it mentions "customer sentiment".

There is room for clarification about that.

And so as I'm not letting Steinberg completely off the hook - Guillermo (and others) a little more clarity on how you are getting that longlist of bug fixes and features would most certainly be welcome.
Since there are literally thousands of Feature Requests in the C8 forum only, that's not an easy compilation.
I guess it would be the most buzzed ones?


I've got to be honest...the last people who should be determining product development and R&D paths are audio engineers!
If AE's had their say in every product we'd all still be mixing for vinyl prints using magnetic tape!

What we need is a clear vision in a quality product (Steve Jobs' Apple had this in abundance) - a computer company with vision actually forced a fundamental change on the behemoth that is the entertainment industry!

So ceasing innovation and putting all resources into cleaning house is also not the correct play in this game. Like another poster stated, balance of limited resources is the key. Bug free Core functionality without crashes that destroy hours of creative expressions on the latest platforms is a must. Building a manageable code base into which you can rapidly add new features and attend to issues is a must. Everything else is sizzle and unique flavouring.

In this internet-age of impatience and immediate delivery where a single review can influence thousands or hundreds of thousands of potential purchases, you've got to be nimble and quick on your feet to address issues when they arise.

I still personally don't get the need for a separate resource-using product line called Nuendo.
(Which is essentially the same as Cubase but different)
You'd think it would be a good and efficient resource management idea to have a single name branded product which can deliver varying degrees of functionality depending on the consumers desires and the license they choose.
Start with Cubase LIght Edition and upgrade your way through the degrees of the feature set lineup to the full-out Cubase Pro AV Production Suite. It would surely maximize marketing dollars and development resources leaving more resources available to make an even better product...
But I digress ..
by fretthefret
Wed Dec 16, 2015 5:59 pm
 
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Re: ENOUGH IS ENOUGH STEINBERG...

Hi to you onemidi.

Well, of course the Software has bugs.

Threads like "enough is enough" are not really helpful. If you find a bug, post it in the issues Forum.
Thats how simple things are.
The rest is more about mental state than about Software, imho.

hth, Ernst
by Elien
Mon Jan 25, 2016 6:08 pm
 
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Re: A open plea to Steinberg... again....

Generally with all customer surveys, you need to keep a realistic view on the probable out come.

Unless there is an imminent threat to the existence of the business (in which case you should be panicing about the future of the music tools you use), expect to influence the survey in a very small way.

1. Anyone can say they are listening. All companies like to claim they listen. Few can say they act.

2. Cubase 9 will almost certainly be in development. Some of the features listed in the survey were probably already slated for C9 long before any of this discourse took place.

3. The release schedule for Cubase 9 is probably already set due to the manufacturing, duplication and distribution chains that need to be set up and which Steinberg cannot miss. The product will ship at this date.

4. No developer is going to take risky options or put large resources into a bug that affects a relatively small number of users.

5. When faced with a mutiny on the bounty, developers will typically pick the easy fixes with minimal impact and add in a few new (or requested) features that were already on the cards as extra sweetening. The aim is maximum gain with minimum code disruption.

6. The chances of user number #32877 having his or her pet bug fixed is lottery territory.

7. The chances of user number #2214 having his or her pet feature request implemented is even worse.

8. These odds improve if your name is Hans Zimmer or you play in his league.

9. Steinberg is a business that has to play by the rules of all other successful businesses.
by LordNibbler
Mon Jan 25, 2016 1:58 pm
 
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Re: A open plea to Steinberg... again....

LordNibbler, well said. I think points #4 and #8 nailed it! Bottom line is, Cubase is a solid DAW...period. If you can't work with it, either your system is from 1987, or you have nothing better to do than find flaws (which you'll find in every DAW out there). The company isn't going to have a corporate shakeup because of this thread. :D
by Wolfie2112
Mon Jan 25, 2016 5:35 pm
 
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Re: A open plea to Steinberg... again....

For everyone complaining about Steinberg not being involved on the forum, try Digital Performer (MOTU), or Logic (Apple), they don't even have a forum...only user created forums.
by Wolfie2112
Wed Jan 27, 2016 4:30 pm
 
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Re: A open plea to Steinberg... again....

[quote="jose7822Now you've made it into my troll list. And insulting people like that is not cool.

Keep your 2 cents. :?[/quote][/quote][/quote]

How have I insulted? It really blows that you guys are encountering all of these bugs, but most of the OP's list are NOT bugs....or did I miss something? I have a solid system, VEPro is solid, everything works. Ok, I did have one crash last week but it was due to Elicenser issues (El Capitan wanted the latest version). Maybe I'm lucky? Who knows. I just find it amusing how there's always a lynch mob after Steinberg after every update....and users claiming there have been the same bugs since Cubase 6; yet they are still upgrading and forking over money. Honestly, I hope you guys get this sorted out.
by Wolfie2112
Mon Feb 01, 2016 4:35 pm
 
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Re: A open plea to Steinberg... again....

I don't know whether repetition gives the same arguments more weight, but it probably doesn't harm anybody (other than Steinberg, if at all). I realize i simply have to keep reading repetitive stuff, if i want to not miss any potential new approach or a response from the official side. Maybe i'm kinda naive because i've only been using Cubase from version 8. ;)

Don't worry, you'll get used to seeing posts like this on every single update talking about how the last version was so much better and now we're in a crisis etc etc. :)
by J-S-Q
Wed Feb 03, 2016 12:14 pm
 
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