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Post by Cat » Thu Feb 07, 2013 2:04 pm

This is a critical issue for many users - at least for all the film/TV composers, from Mr. Hans Zimmer to the students at 'music for media' kind of schools.

The video engine in 6.5 was brilliant, I don't understand why it had to be changed...It is not only the 'dropped frames of the video' but the whole Cubase interface becomes jerky when a video is loaded and the video window open.

Hoping it is fixed in 7.02 but it just doesn't show in the list of fixes...
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agilkds wrote:What about the "video engine" problem? Are we to expect a solution soon?
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No mention of fix in 7.02

http://www.steinberg.net/forum/viewtopi ... erformance

http://www.steinberg.net/forum/viewtopi ... 84&t=32115

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Post by gmmccurdy » Thu Feb 07, 2013 3:40 pm

vanhaze2000 wrote:No solving of the major C7 performance issues that alot of mac users are complaining about (including myself) ???
Personally i don't give a sh*t for all those improvements stated, if only the performance would be up to par with C6.5.

Just my 2 cents. :mrgreen:

Agreed. I've had to roll back to 6.5 because of this issue. I'm really bummed I don't see it on the list of fixes. Is there a refund?!?!?! :|
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Post by Helge Vogt » Thu Feb 07, 2013 3:46 pm

gmmccurdy wrote:
vanhaze2000 wrote:No solving of the major C7 performance issues that alot of mac users are complaining about (including myself) ???
Personally i don't give a sh*t for all those improvements stated, if only the performance would be up to par with C6.5.

Just my 2 cents. :mrgreen:

Agreed. I've had to roll back to 6.5 because of this issue. I'm really bummed I don't see it on the list of fixes. Is there a refund?!?!?! :|
If you are not satisfied with Cubase 7 Update and want to return it, please send me a PM for refund.

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Post by gmmccurdy » Thu Feb 07, 2013 3:49 pm

Are they even looking at the CPU Spikes for the Mac users? If they search their forums a lot of Mac users, including me, have had to roll back to 6.5 because the CPU spikes and audio drops are to frequent. The odd thing is I don't even see it listed in the Issues section.
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Post by gmmccurdy » Thu Feb 07, 2013 3:54 pm

I really like what i've seen in Cubase 7 so I would prefer to keep it vs getting a refund. I guess I would just like to know that it is something that Steinberg is aware of and it will eventually be looked at. Since I don't see it in the "issues" section I was concerned.

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Post by Helge Vogt » Thu Feb 07, 2013 4:07 pm

Hi,
we are aware and working on a lot of things. Especially performance issues (which btw not all OS X users suffer from) are not trivial to track down and often tricky to resolve. The thread is here:

https://www.steinberg.net/forum/viewtop ... 84&t=30696

I would surely prefer to keep you a happy Cubase customer, but we do not believe in grabbing the money and to leave unhappy customers, that's why I was offering it.

Be assured we are working on it.

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Post by R » Thu Feb 07, 2013 4:22 pm

Did you forget the Yamaha DM2000 transport problem? Each time Cubase 7.0.1 launches I have to go to devices and add the Yamaha DM2000-VCM-V2 in order for the DM2000 transport to work. The setting is not saved when opening Cubase again. Yamaha has confirmed this to be a bug.
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Post by mrjixies » Thu Feb 07, 2013 4:29 pm

Helge Vogt wrote:Hi,
we are aware and working on a lot of things. Especially performance issues (which btw not all OS X users suffer from) are not trivial to track down and often tricky to resolve. The thread is here:

https://www.steinberg.net/forum/viewtop ... 84&t=30696

I would surely prefer to keep you a happy Cubase customer, but we do not believe in grabbing the money and to leave unhappy customers, that's why I was offering it.

Be assured we are working on it.

Cheers,
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Well that's good to hear! And a noble thing to do! I personally hope for the best, and that all big bugs will be sorted out by steinberg as soon as humanly possible...
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Post by gmmccurdy » Thu Feb 07, 2013 4:36 pm

Helge Vogt wrote:Hi,
we are aware and working on a lot of things. Especially performance issues (which btw not all OS X users suffer from) are not trivial to track down and often tricky to resolve. The thread is here:

https://www.steinberg.net/forum/viewtop ... 84&t=30696

I would surely prefer to keep you a happy Cubase customer, but we do not believe in grabbing the money and to leave unhappy customers, that's why I was offering it.

Be assured we are working on it.

Cheers,
Helge
Good deal. Thanks for the response. I've been with you guys since my Atari 520st! :)
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Post by Helge Vogt » Thu Feb 07, 2013 4:36 pm

R wrote:Did you forget the Yamaha DM2000 transport problem? Each time Cubase 7.0.1 launches I have to go to devices and add the Yamaha DM2000-VCM-V2 in order for the DM2000 transport to work. The setting is not saved when opening Cubase again. Yamaha has confirmed this to be a bug.
This should be fixed in 7.0.2!

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Post by -steve- » Thu Feb 07, 2013 5:08 pm

Since Helge is responding to some of the questions, I have hope...

Have the Score Edit issues been addressed? I'm talking about printing to pdf on Mac, font underlining, crashing on moving tools to the favorite palette, and other problems that have been discussed in the forum.
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Post by Guest » Thu Feb 07, 2013 7:02 pm

Puma0382 wrote:Just saying, its an option to think about.

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Cheers for your input but nope there is nothing to think about ,the fact is the the cmc qc has not been compatible with c7 for nearly 3 months . How many of these units have been sold over the counter and internet without being told it's not fully compatible with c7 ???? this my son in England goes against the trade description act as there is no mention that this unit is not compatible with c7 ....
quote "Once in the EQ mode, the rotary encoders mirror the Cubase Channel EQ controls to give you accurate control over the frequency, gain and bandwidth levels. " unquote .Now how many units have been bought thinking it will work with c7 straight away ???????????
Retailers should be notifying customers on this and warn them that it's not compatible and there should also be on steinberg discription of the product stating the NEWEST cubase issue will be resolved .
I do still use c6 but it's nothing to do with that ,it's the fact that these units are still for sale and there is no warning to notify of the incompatibility....sorry steinberg but thats the way it is if you have no communication with people then they get really *knuf* off !

looking forward to the update btw ;)

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Post by Mahlon » Thu Feb 07, 2013 8:32 pm

Great job, fellas. Looking forward to an update.

One question though: has the issue with selecting a Channel in the MixConsole causing the deselection of the selected track in the Project Window been fixed? i.e. MixConsole and Project Window are linked, and they shouldn't be.

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Post by cubace » Thu Feb 07, 2013 8:55 pm

altunes wrote:
vanhaze2000 wrote:No solving of the major C7 performance issues that alot of mac users are complaining about (including myself) ???
Personally i don't give a sh*t for all those improvements stated, if only the performance would be up to par with C6.5.

Just my 2 cents. :mrgreen:
Me too!
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Post by sturgeon » Thu Feb 07, 2013 8:58 pm

Mahlon wrote:Great job, fellas. Looking forward to an update.

One question though: has the issue with selecting a Channel in the MixConsole causing the deselection of the selected track in the Project Window been fixed? i.e. MixConsole and Project Window are linked, and they shouldn't be.

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Post by Puma0382 » Thu Feb 07, 2013 9:02 pm

filterfreak wrote:it's the fact that these units are still for sale and there is no warning to notify of the incompatibility....sorry steinberg but thats the way it is if you have no communication with people then they get really *knuf* off !

looking forward to the update btw ;)
Well, steady there ff - why you don't look to read any release documentation with a product, is perhaps at the root of all this. Sort that out, and maybe you'd have a more reasoned view towards SB. All the detail; its right there on page 15...
http://download.steinberg.net/downloads ... issues.pdf

Amongst many other things, both software and hardware, that's them acknowledging issues - with the CMC series and Cubase 7; that's them giving information; that's them telling you when it is likely to be addressed; that's them COMMUNICATING with customers about the release of this product.

The Release Docs were available at launch. First thing I d/loaded and looked over.

Expecting (trusting..?) retailers to be in command of all this type of info is, I believe, a bit much my friend. At best, if challenged, they are going to (sensibly) direct you to the manufacturers website, where you can check for yourself first, just to be sure you are buying the right product for what you need. They certainly won't want you coming down on them like a ton of bricks, complaining about your purchase after the event, accusations flying as to who said exactly what and to whom etc, etc...
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Post by Graham_Simmonds » Thu Feb 07, 2013 9:20 pm

I too am very disappointed that the "hidden channels" Mackie control issue has not been resolved in 7.02. Considering it has already been mentioned many times in this thread, I am surprised that it was not further up the bug fix priority list and did not make it in to 7.02.
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Puma0382 wrote:why you don't look to read any release documentation with a product, is perhaps at the root of all this. Sort that out, and maybe you'd have a more reasoned view towards SB. All the detail; its right there on page 15...
last reply to you as my comment is non of you business.
No one when buying the cmc product is given a chance to read through the c7.0.1 documentation :roll: There are a lot of people out there that see cubase software + cubase hardware = compatibility BUT nowhere is it stated in the QC documentation that it's not compatible with c7 so for those that DO NOT visit the steinberg web site or forum (which is one hell of a lot) they will never know about this but steinberg still gets the money ...
Now that is wrong IMO .

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Post by -steve- » Thu Feb 07, 2013 10:43 pm

Scrub function now also works reliably on MIDI Parts.
Wow! Yippie! Hurrah!
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Post by cmbourget » Fri Feb 08, 2013 12:32 am

Hi Helge, I was wondering if buying 7 included Cubase version 6.5 ? My first purchase was Cubase 6 Element (underweight), then Cubase 7. Can I have a version 6.5 of Cubase pending patches and especially a more interesting design (more Cubase style) for the Mixconsol ? In addition, plugins disappear behind (in full page) and you do not correct!
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gmmccurdy wrote:
vanhaze2000 wrote:No solving of the major C7 performance issues that alot of mac users are complaining about (including myself) ???
Personally i don't give a sh*t for all those improvements stated, if only the performance would be up to par with C6.5.

Just my 2 cents. :mrgreen:

Agreed. I've had to roll back to 6.5 because of this issue. I'm really bummed I don't see it on the list of fixes. Is there a refund?!?!?! :|
If you are not satisfied with Cubase 7 Update and want to return it, please send me a PM for refund.

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Post by AlakaLazlo » Fri Feb 08, 2013 1:52 am

Helge,

Thanks for the information. Looks like things are moving in the right direction.
Can you please let us know if the MCU integration will be fixed in 7.02. Not being able to hide channels is a serious workflow issue for many of us.
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Post by aljames » Fri Feb 08, 2013 3:08 am

That sounds positive Helge. What roughly are the control room improvements?

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Post by Woodcrest Studio » Fri Feb 08, 2013 4:00 am

AlakaLazlo wrote:Helge,

Thanks for the information. Looks like things are moving in the right direction.
Can you please let us know if the MCU integration will be fixed in 7.02. Not being able to hide channels is a serious workflow issue for many of us.
Thanks,
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Helge Vogt wrote:Keeping remote controls in sync with MixConsole didn't make it into 7.0.2, but like already written, we will work on it for one of the upcoming maintenance releases.
https://www.steinberg.net/forum/viewtop ... 78#p220278


Good luck waiting for it Al. There are so many core issues they are working on that I can't see Steinberg bringing back a feature being on the top of their list. I'll bet that it will be cubase 8/9 that the function will return. Steinberg stated "one of the upcoming maintenance releases". So far, it hasn't been in the first 2 maintenance releases. On top of that, Nuendo is due out and all the issues they are going to have to deal with Nuendo's roll out will most likely halt Cubase development. Who knows though... maybe one of the upcoming maintenance releases...... one of the upcoming maintenance releases.... one of the upcoming maintenance releases....

Honestly, I know Steinberg's hands are full and I know what that is like. I do hope the internal/external sync gets restored sooner than later and I do appreciate Helge's and the other contributing Steinberg employees level of communication to the community.

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Post by Jurij » Fri Feb 08, 2013 10:06 am

As I reported many time, it will be fantastic if Cubase 7 may save all settings in one single (save as) in VST connections included external outboard. Thanks
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Post by Richard Herbert » Fri Feb 08, 2013 11:06 am

filterfreak wrote:
Puma0382 wrote:why you don't look to read any release documentation with a product, is perhaps at the root of all this. Sort that out, and maybe you'd have a more reasoned view towards SB. All the detail; its right there on page 15...
last reply to you as my comment is non of you business.
No one when buying the cmc product is given a chance to read through the c7.0.1 documentation :roll: There are a lot of people out there that see cubase software + cubase hardware = compatibility BUT nowhere is it stated in the QC documentation that it's not compatible with c7 so for those that DO NOT visit the steinberg web site or forum (which is one hell of a lot) they will never know about this but steinberg still gets the money ...
Now that is wrong IMO .

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It's you that is wrong in my opinion. Steinberg released a list of known issues upon release of C7 and a timeline for certain issues to be resolved.

If one of the issues affects you then don't upgrade until it is fixed.

You seem to be an unreasonable person.

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