Why did Steinberg discontinue the CMC series? is something new on the way?

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Re: Why did Steinberg discontinue the CMC series? is something new on the way?

Post by dr » Fri Feb 14, 2020 9:05 pm

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Fri Feb 14, 2020 9:00 pm
CMC was post Yamaha but potentially before or still in the process of amalgamating business and production.
Yamaha buy SB in 2004 - CMC launch 2011 - but let's not let facts get in the way of your thought process.
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Fri Feb 14, 2020 9:00 pm
My guess is, we'll see a cross between Nuage and something like the Euphonix.
if so, I suggest you buy it

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Re: Why did Steinberg discontinue the CMC series? is something new on the way?

Post by lovegames » Fri Feb 14, 2020 9:26 pm

dr wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 9:05 pm
lovegames wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 9:00 pm
CMC was post Yamaha but potentially before or still in the process of amalgamating business and production.
Yamaha buy SB in 2004 - CMC launch 2011 - but let's not let facts get in the way of your thought process.
lovegames wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 9:00 pm
My guess is, we'll see a cross between Nuage and something like the Euphonix.
if so, I suggest you buy it
That's not conclusive, did Yamaha produce CMC or did they not. and CMC is still being supported so technically it doesn't fall under the category of your Steinberg HW horror stories.

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Re: Why did Steinberg discontinue the CMC series? is something new on the way?

Post by dr » Fri Feb 14, 2020 9:31 pm

lovegames wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 9:26 pm
That's not conclusive, did Yamaha produce CMC or did they not.
this is getting a little tiresome

https://www.steinberg.net/en/support/do ... s_cmc.html

look on that page for some clues - and last update 2015

FWIW that's me done on this

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Re: Why did Steinberg discontinue the CMC series? is something new on the way?

Post by raino » Fri Feb 14, 2020 9:38 pm

Someone seems to think they can change reality by arguing with it
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Re: Why did Steinberg discontinue the CMC series? is something new on the way?

Post by dr » Fri Feb 14, 2020 9:39 pm

raino wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 9:38 pm
Someone seems to think they can change reality by arguing with it
hehe - If only we could :)

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Re: Why did Steinberg discontinue the CMC series? is something new on the way?

Post by lovegames » Fri Feb 14, 2020 9:41 pm

dr wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 9:31 pm
lovegames wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 9:26 pm
That's not conclusive, did Yamaha produce CMC or did they not.
this is getting a little tiresome

https://www.steinberg.net/en/support/do ... s_cmc.html

look on that page for some clues - and last update 2015

FWIW that's me done on this
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This is getting tiresome.

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Re: Why did Steinberg discontinue the CMC series? is something new on the way?

Post by lovegames » Fri Feb 14, 2020 9:44 pm

Just messing with you, but you're seriously annoying and have made unfounded claims.

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Re: Why did Steinberg discontinue the CMC series? is something new on the way?

Post by dr » Fri Feb 14, 2020 9:46 pm

lovegames, yes it's still a supported product, so to work on a new mac (Catalina) it needed an update....but I seem to remember that you are on windows.

TOOLS for CMC for Windows
February 11th, 2015

but as I say - you should put your money where your mouth (keyboard) is an buy one - you can get them on ebay - or indeed buy whatever you like.

My advice to the more rational members of this forum remains the same - think twice before you invest in Steinberg hardware.
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Re: Why did Steinberg discontinue the CMC series? is something new on the way?

Post by lovegames » Fri Feb 14, 2020 9:55 pm

dr wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 9:46 pm
lovegames, yes it's still a supported product, so to work on a new mac (Catalina) it needed an update....but I seem to remember that you are on windows.

TOOLS for CMC for Windows
February 11th, 2015

but as I say - you should put your money where your mouth (keyboard) is an buy one - you can get them on ebay - or indeed buy whatever you like.

My advice to the more rational members of this forum remains the same - think twice before you invest in Steinberg hardware.
I am a Windows guy, but that is irrelevant in this context.

Windows doesn't need an update because they wrote good drivers, and by testimony of others on Windows, it works on 10.5, WIndows 10 (and probably 7 to)

for Mac, it does't matter how good of a driver you write, Apple will change everything every time they release an OS update.

The point is - CMC in year 2020, is still supported. That's over 5 years since product release.

In this very forum
Stefan Schreiber wrote:
Thu May 15, 2014 2:59 pm
Dear customers,

Some of you already noticed that the CMC controllers haven't been available through all channels.

Steinberg announces that the CMC controller series will no longer be available in Europe from now on.


Manufacturing of the CMC hardware has ceased.



All six CMC controllers may still be found at individual retail stores but the items have gone completely out of stock at Steinberg warehouses.

 Availability however may differ in other non-European regions, so please check with your local distributor and dealer.



Steinberg will continue to offer support and maintenance for the CMC products.

Best regards,
Stefan Schreiber
I'm sorry that Houston doesn't work, but if it was integral to you, you should have kept that version of Cubase running on the PC you had at the time. This is why some people don't update. It's what, 20 years old?

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Re: Why did Steinberg discontinue the CMC series? is something new on the way?

Post by shanabit » Fri Feb 14, 2020 11:15 pm

"it's just the general support/drivers/abandonware attitude that is the problem (IMO)"
^^^^^^^^^^ THIS

1. Have CC121, won't buy another controller from Steiny
2. MR816X, won't buy another audio interface from Steiny

When you make a product ONLY to work in Cubase/Nuendo and don't support it well, who is gonna buy it? Enter CMC.
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Re: Why did Steinberg discontinue the CMC series? is something new on the way?

Post by lovegames » Sat Feb 15, 2020 12:15 am

shanabit wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 11:15 pm
"it's just the general support/drivers/abandonware attitude that is the problem (IMO)"
^^^^^^^^^^ THIS

1. Have CC121, won't buy another controller from Steiny
2. MR816X, won't buy another audio interface from Steiny

When you make a product ONLY to work in Cubase/Nuendo and don't support it well, who is gonna buy it? Enter CMC.
Why?

I see you're on a mac... Are you sure you shouldn't start there in your "not buying again" method?

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Re: Why did Steinberg discontinue the CMC series? is something new on the way?

Post by raino » Sat Feb 15, 2020 2:54 am

lovegames wrote:
Sat Feb 15, 2020 12:15 am
shanabit wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 11:15 pm
"it's just the general support/drivers/abandonware attitude that is the problem (IMO)"
^^^^^^^^^^ THIS

1. Have CC121, won't buy another controller from Steiny
2. MR816X, won't buy another audio interface from Steiny

When you make a product ONLY to work in Cubase/Nuendo and don't support it well, who is gonna buy it? Enter CMC.
Why?

I see you're on a mac... Are you sure you shouldn't start there in your "not buying again" method?
Why is this so important to you? You seem fixated on this way beyond what it could possibly be worth.

Step back with a beer or a bong and lower your rage a few notches.

If you fancy a CMC buy a used one, or not - your choice.
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Re: Why did Steinberg discontinue the CMC series? is something new on the way?

Post by shanabit » Sat Feb 15, 2020 3:34 am

lovegames wrote:
Sat Feb 15, 2020 12:15 am
Why?

I see you're on a mac... Are you sure you shouldn't start there in your "not buying again" method?
Im sorry, who are you again?
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Re: Why did Steinberg discontinue the CMC series? is something new on the way?

Post by lovegames » Sat Feb 15, 2020 4:05 am

raino wrote:
Sat Feb 15, 2020 2:54 am
lovegames wrote:
Sat Feb 15, 2020 12:15 am
shanabit wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 11:15 pm
"it's just the general support/drivers/abandonware attitude that is the problem (IMO)"
^^^^^^^^^^ THIS

1. Have CC121, won't buy another controller from Steiny
2. MR816X, won't buy another audio interface from Steiny

When you make a product ONLY to work in Cubase/Nuendo and don't support it well, who is gonna buy it? Enter CMC.
Why?

I see you're on a mac... Are you sure you shouldn't start there in your "not buying again" method?
Why is this so important to you? You seem fixated on this way beyond what it could possibly be worth.

Step back with a beer or a bong and lower your rage a few notches.

If you fancy a CMC buy a used one, or not - your choice.
It's not I just don't get why people are spreading misinformation and whining.

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Re: Why did Steinberg discontinue the CMC series? is something new on the way?

Post by lovegames » Fri Mar 13, 2020 4:06 am

well well, what do you know.. Steinberg still supporting hardware.

New TOOLS for CC121 and CI2
viewforum.php?f=34&sid=768a7fb85433233193788bf3a5e15f73

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Re: Why did Steinberg discontinue the CMC series? is something new on the way?

Post by dr » Fri Mar 13, 2020 12:16 pm

lovegames wrote:
Fri Mar 13, 2020 4:06 am
well well, what do you know.. Steinberg still supporting hardware.

New TOOLS for CC121 and CI2
viewforum.php?f=34&sid=768a7fb85433233193788bf3a5e15f73
yes lovegames we know
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Fri Feb 14, 2020 8:52 pm
incidentally - I mentioned earlier that I still use my CC121. It's a current product from Steinberg, great build quality............Still not 100% functional in Cubase 10.5. We've been promised a fix in March but who knows ?

what was your point again ?

also good to see you are able to post without profanities - surprised you haven't been banned again ....how many times has it been ?

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Re: Why did Steinberg discontinue the CMC series? is something new on the way?

Post by skijumptoes » Fri Mar 13, 2020 12:47 pm

lovegames wrote:
Fri Mar 13, 2020 4:06 am
well well, what do you know.. Steinberg still supporting hardware.
New TOOLS for CC121 and CI2
viewforum.php?f=34&sid=768a7fb85433233193788bf3a5e15f73
While i know you're having a bit of personal banter here, it's not good enough for a Software company who sells a custom made controller to leave it out of date for 5 years while they're happily asking it's customers to pay for yearly updates to the software it's designed to run with.

Their line of controllers should be included in the pre-release test phase of every annual update, it's inexcusable from a users perspective, but i'm sure highly complicated to manage within the realms of Steinberg/Yamaha - each department that needs to come together is probably thousands of miles apart with different priorities/timescales for starters.

The lesson learnt here should be that they don't release hardware like this unless they can project manage it's life in the wild. It's a controller many more people would buy into if they only established a more rigid development cycle.

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Re: Why did Steinberg discontinue the CMC series? is something new on the way?

Post by lovegames » Fri Mar 13, 2020 7:36 pm

Nothings ever good enough for cubendo users, it's an interesting crowd.

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