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when to expect Nuendo 7 ?

Post by Marsman » Thu Feb 19, 2015 12:32 pm

any estimates yet when the next number update will come?
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Re: when to expect next Nuendo ?

Post by TimoWildenhain » Thu Feb 19, 2015 2:37 pm

Hello,

Nuendo 7 is currently still in beta phase due to the extensive feature scope, which means it won't be
available in Q1 this year. However, more information on Nuendo 7 features in general will be available soon. ;)

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Re: when to expect next Nuendo ?

Post by Oliver.Lucas » Thu Feb 19, 2015 3:38 pm

TimoWildenhain wrote: extensive feature scope
That will make people on the duc cry even more...
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Re: when to expect next Nuendo ?

Post by MattiasNYC » Thu Feb 19, 2015 4:54 pm

TimoWildenhain wrote:Hello,

Nuendo 7 is currently still in beta phase due to the extensive feature scope, which means it won't be
available in Q1 this year. However, more information on Nuendo 7 features in general will be available soon. ;)

Thanks,
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Q2 at least?
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Re: when to expect next Nuendo ?

Post by dust » Thu Feb 19, 2015 9:20 pm

Marsman wrote:How about skipping 7 and calling it Nuendo 8 like Microsoft does with Windows? (skipping 9)

That would bring it in line with Cubase version numbering
I had the exactly the same idea. I have both programs and it can be confusing what version is at the same level and can sort of open each other's projects.

Not that I except it to happen but it would be nice if a cubase PRO 8 license wold work as a "nuendo 8" nek license. For now I need both programs for nuendo specific features and for session compatibility with friends and customers.

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Re: when to expect next Nuendo ?

Post by TimoWildenhain » Fri Feb 20, 2015 10:00 am

Lydiot wrote:
TimoWildenhain wrote:Hello,

Nuendo 7 is currently still in beta phase due to the extensive feature scope, which means it won't be
available in Q1 this year. However, more information on Nuendo 7 features in general will be available soon. ;)

Thanks,
Timo
Q2 at least?
Looks promising.
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Re: when to expect next Nuendo ?

Post by studioj » Sat Feb 21, 2015 7:48 am

Oliver.Lucas wrote:
TimoWildenhain wrote: extensive feature scope
That will make people on the duc cry even more...
Strike while the iron is hot!!!

the time seems ripe for some shakeup in post and other markets too... avid doesn't seem to be handling things too well right now. Will Steinberg be able to take advantage of the unrest?

Why does PT still occupy the throne? What does Nuendo / Cubase need to be king across the board?

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Post by Heiner Einbier » Sat Feb 21, 2015 12:06 pm

studioj wrote:Why does PT still occupy the throne?
Inertia.
studioj wrote:What does Nuendo / Cubase need to be king across the board?
IMHO:
1. ability to play back MXF video files from an imported AAF folder
2. ability to replace audio in an MXFop1A file, with full selectability of all 16 channels

That's about it. As far as I'm concerned, Nuendo already beats PT in every other respect.
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Re: when to expect next Nuendo ?

Post by DG » Sat Feb 21, 2015 12:51 pm

Grouping and Import Session Data are the two most useful features for us in PT. Also copy/paste of automation has traditionally been a bit of a cr*p shoot in Nuendo.

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Post by MattiasNYC » Sat Feb 21, 2015 6:54 pm

DG wrote:Grouping and Import Session Data are the two most useful features for us in PT. Also copy/paste of automation has traditionally been a bit of a cr*p shoot in Nuendo.

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Re: when to expect next Nuendo ?

Post by Domilik » Sun Feb 22, 2015 10:02 am

Here:

- Show automation data on tracks

- leave offline-plugins open (right now biggest time-killer imo)
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Re: when to expect next Nuendo ?

Post by Domilik » Sun Feb 22, 2015 10:12 am

and please - Nuendo has to get rid of this clicking-thing they introduced in v6.

In old edit-channel-window (for example) we had all relevant infos at a glance. Now we got tons of tabs whith tons of sub-tabs... Still not get that design-decision... Please give us back the user-definable view-settings.
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Re: when to expect next Nuendo ?

Post by Big K » Sun Feb 22, 2015 6:28 pm

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A big fat Plus 1

No gray on gray labelling, larger and more distinctiv clickboxes.
And I don't like the tree structure of plugin choice pop up window, either.

Just get rid of these and a few more, mostly gui design, curiosities .....
and you are Papa's darling, again.

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Re: when to expect next Nuendo ?

Post by fenderchris » Sun Feb 22, 2015 7:04 pm

+2

What Domilik and Big K said.
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Re: when to expect next Nuendo ?

Post by Getalife2 » Sun Feb 22, 2015 7:37 pm

Domilik wrote:and please - Nuendo has to get rid of this clicking-thing they introduced in v6.

In old edit-channel-window (for example) we had all relevant infos at a glance. Now we got tons of tabs whith tons of sub-tabs... Still not get that design-decision... Please give us back the user-definable view-settings.
Yeah, I'm not gonna lie, from a logic and functionality standpoint it would be extremely difficult to explain why providing less control in a single layer is an improvement. Your comparison image is pretty self explanatory. Excellent job with the red circles!

You know once upon a time I was head of A&R at a big record company. There were a number of sub-label divisions each with its own label head and A & R guys.

The syndrome I noticed, since it was unmissable, was that each new A & R guy in charge wanted to prove he was a genius and changed everything up. Most old artists out, new artisrs (his) in. Old artists who stay make different kinds of records with different producers etc etc. A good deal of the changes made were just for the sake of change under the new leadership.

Some of the recent changes in Nuendo and Cubase seem very similar to me. New people making changes that are not fully thought through from an end-user standpoint. Marking their turf as is human nature. Hopefully,over time the situation will self correct. I do not doubt their intentions, but I do doubt that the perspective is always from the seasoned end user's perspective.
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Re: when to expect next Nuendo ?

Post by ManChicken » Sun Feb 22, 2015 11:29 pm

I hate the "hover-over magically-appearing buttons" changes that were made. Using Cubase/Nuendo with a Wacom tablet now is extra-miserable.

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Post by Robin Walsh » Mon Feb 23, 2015 6:53 am

Agreed, the 'hover-over buttons' are the worst part of Nuendo for me.
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Post by XI-MACHINES » Mon Feb 23, 2015 10:56 am

I agree with the hover-over buttons being a downgrade.
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Post by MattiasNYC » Mon Feb 23, 2015 4:52 pm

Yes, I too hate the hoover-buttons. A definite downgrade.

I have zero hope they'll get "fixed" though.
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Re: when to expect next Nuendo ?

Post by Big K » Mon Feb 23, 2015 4:54 pm

This hover thingy is a nightmare, too, very true!
+1

And I am not willing to buy me spectacles because I have a harder time to identify those badly designed
knobs and corners where to hover over, ...after 12 hours of staring onto the DAW screens, every day.

I would not go quite as far as Getalife2 mentioned in his post that this optical GUI ( or shall I say GAU?) downgrade
was purely a matter of "new guys - new design", but the idea has something intriguing.
Anyhow, it devinitively was a change for the worse.

Again, just release an alternative version to this baloney GUI we are sorely afflicted with, if you absolutely must have to keep the new, rather impractical one for what ever reasons.

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Re: when to expect next Nuendo ?

Post by fenderchris » Mon Feb 23, 2015 5:02 pm

Hey Timo,

So has the N7 GUI been fixed as per the above posts?
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Post by johngar » Mon Feb 23, 2015 6:48 pm

I agree that this hovering stuff is nonsense. It takes Nuendo backwards in functionality. The fact that you have to do something to see the info that was there before is ridiculous. I can't see that anyone that uses this software in a working studio would see this an improvement.
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Post by Boatman » Tue Feb 24, 2015 7:31 am

[....] Edited by Fredo - Moderator- No need to get into personal insults, and assuming/claiming things you don't have *any* information/proof about.
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Big K wrote:This hover thingy is a nightmare, too, very true!
And I am not willing to buy me spectacles because I have a harder time to identify those badly designed
knobs and corners where to hover over, ...after 12 hours of staring onto the DAW screens, every day.

Again, just release an alternative version to this baloney GUI we are sorely afflicted with, if you absolutely must have to keep the new, rather impractical one for what ever reasons.


Are you still using the app? If you are, then how bad could the GUI really be, and why should they care what you say in this forum? I think the GUI is inept and stupid but *I* don't use either Nuendo or Cubase for recording new material at all and at this point I have actually stopped buying the upgrades as I don't want to continue wasting money on products that seem to be designed by people whose idea of "usability" is so radically different from mine. I will eventually have to reinstall Nuendo 4 (which is kinda usable) to get to old projects but I don't record new stuff with either Nuendo or Cubase.

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Re: when to expect next Nuendo ?

Post by Big K » Tue Feb 24, 2015 5:30 pm

My dear colleague

If I read you lines right then be advised:
I am with Steinberg products since the days of Cubase 1.x, must be something like late 1980. I still use Nuendo (mainly 5.5.6, though) for music, video or gaming production, but I also looked deeply into Studio One and Harrison Mixbus, which do a good job, too, and show quite a few better ways of doing certain things. If you read my signature below you could have guessed that. I am a member of this forum for a rather long time and even if my opinion might not be valued as most important I say my piece, anytime and unasked for.

Slightly coming of age, I have enough experience in more than just one occupation to judge certain things and I always respect other standpoints and opinions, but can't be easily talked into any nonsense.
For me, and not me alone, this newish GUI of Nuendo 6 is not as good as its predecessor and new functionalities could have been brought in in a much more agreeable and practical way. Like you see on my avatar pic, this gray in gray lettering, e.g., is only good for the prolonged backbone. Whoever designs something like this didn't show enough consideration towards keeping a clear distinctive GUI surface.
It is a failure and needs being corrected.

Maybe you should try to see things from various angles you haven't thought of, yet …
-before penning somewhat presumptuous posts….
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Re: when to expect next Nuendo ?

Post by Rickard » Tue Feb 24, 2015 7:17 pm

I am still using the app (N6.5) because overall it is my favorite, however the hover-over buttons are an annoyance. Why can't both be true? It is for me.

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