cubase 10/9.5 sounds different than cubase 6!??

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cubase 10/9.5 sounds different than cubase 6!??

Post by hollo321 » Mon Feb 25, 2019 10:49 pm

hey so i just downloaded and ran cubase 10 and 9.5 trial with plans to upgrade from 6 and i did a mixdown comparison. Shockingly im noticing a difference in mixdown between the cubase versions loading the same project and using same mixdown settings. Its subtle but i think im hearing in cubase 10 and 9.5 more upper mids/highs or less lows making mix sound slightly less warm and natural so im preferring 6. Heres 2 different small parts of the song i mixed down and compared.
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How is this possible? What would explain this??

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Re: cubase 10/9.5 sounds different than cubase 6!??

Post by svennilenni » Wed Feb 27, 2019 1:26 pm

Finally that one again...

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Re: cubase 10/9.5 sounds different than cubase 6!??

Post by hollo321 » Wed Feb 27, 2019 2:02 pm

svennilenni wrote:
Wed Feb 27, 2019 1:26 pm
Finally that one again...
I know it sounds stupid but i wouldnt bring up if i didnt hear difference. Dont you?

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Re: cubase 10/9.5 sounds different than cubase 6!??

Post by MattiasNYC » Wed Feb 27, 2019 2:52 pm

I don't have time to measure the files or listen, but from memory I recall that there were at least two bugs involving EQ in various versions of Nuendo (and thus also likely Cubase).

It could simply be that between versions you're experiencing differences with the same project file. I.e. the plugin in question ends up with different settings.

That's a different thing than the versions of Cubase sounding different.
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Re: cubase 10/9.5 sounds different than cubase 6!??

Post by svennilenni » Wed Feb 27, 2019 4:17 pm

hollo321 wrote:
Wed Feb 27, 2019 2:02 pm
svennilenni wrote:
Wed Feb 27, 2019 1:26 pm
Finally that one again...
I know it sounds stupid but i wouldnt bring up if i didnt hear difference. Dont you?
Sure, it‘ s just that this comes up at least once after every new version release. There was a change (not a bug IIRC) in the EQ at some point.

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Re: cubase 10/9.5 sounds different than cubase 6!??

Post by hollo321 » Wed Feb 27, 2019 9:05 pm

eq changes would explain it, thanks

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Re: cubase 10/9.5 sounds different than cubase 6!??

Post by NathanBros » Thu Feb 28, 2019 9:15 pm

I think a little note when loading older project files could help users figure out the why of different sounding projects, of course only between the versions with EQ algorithm change.
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Re: cubase 10/9.5 sounds different than cubase 6!??

Post by Nickeldome » Thu Mar 07, 2019 1:05 pm

My experiences with reviving projects made in older versions has almost always resulted in a 'different than it was before' feeling. Mostly very subtle but still different. The thing is also that software evolves and becomes more efficient and new options are added and with this the sound could also slightly differ and become cleaner, less distorted, etc ? Also 'Processing Precision' 32 vs 64 set in the VST audio system screen which was not available in versions before CB9.5 may result in a slight difference?
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Re: cubase 10/9.5 sounds different than cubase 6!??

Post by MattiasNYC » Thu Mar 07, 2019 2:53 pm

It's probably very unlikely that it has to do with some sort of "efficiency" or 32- vs 64-bit processing.

Go back and search the forum for issues with the EQ in various situations and I'm willing to bet that's got a lot to do with it.

Basically I'd expect any difference to be because bugs were fixed. Any redesign changing the sound of the software should have been clearly noted by Steinberg.
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