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Re: Steinberg's dongle alternative coming

Post by jaslan » Wed Feb 25, 2015 2:17 pm

comsax1 wrote:Thanks for the reply, I realize that I can't have licenses on two dongles, I was asking if I transfer the licenses to the new dongle of course the old one, while still functional will be empty. It seems to me that if I lost the new one I still have the old one and could install the ZDT license on the old one.
Yes. If you have a spare dongle, the ZDT should be very quick and easy since you don't have to wait on a new dongle. Sorry I misunderstood you.
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Re: Steinberg's dongle alternative coming

Post by lucvg » Thu Feb 26, 2015 5:53 pm

My dongle was in the back of the desktop, suddenly the plastic was broken and no more connection was made, broke down all by it self,
sturdy material? no metal would be a better idea,
I phoned steinberg, they said, we have a zero wait policy, break this one to unrepairable condition, make a picture and send it by email to us.
When we receive this email, we will send you another the same day, but do it now or you need to wait 3 days because of the weekend, I made the picture sended it, and they never sended the dongle they promised ...
I phoned them I will buy one here in the shop, because without a 2 nd dongle you get no activation ..., so there is no zero downtime ...
It took 6 days my friends to get the activation for the new dongle that I had already for days but
they where so busy with all the new Cubase 8 activations they said, kind support but kind of very very slow too. :roll:

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Re: Steinberg's dongle alternative coming

Post by C.LYDE101 » Fri Mar 13, 2015 5:55 pm

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C.LYDE101 wrote:Not as anal as usb dongle on laptop... once-off connection, and you're sorted. The point being that UVI knows what affects the bottom line, paying user's going elsewhere.
In some case they may, but they loose customers like myself that need to use more than one computer, it is a question of functionality.

Besides having a dongle on my laptop is a minor inconvenience, not a major show stopper, which is what always makes me wonder about those anti dongle posts .... when evaluating some piece of software the minor inconvenience becomes a major factor in peoples purchase decisions over and above functionality?

Imagine if you were a tradesman in something other than music and would refuse to do certain jobs or service certain equipment because you do not like the dongle that came with the software. How impressed would your customers be?
I make more money, not making music, and the software I use dwarf's the cost of Cubase/Nuendo many times over... guess what ..not a dongle in sight. :roll:

Bottom-line, it's the actual SALE of licenses that drives the software business, and if your paying users are dissatisfied - it would make good business to find ways to meet their requirements.
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Post by Benutzername » Fri Mar 13, 2015 6:41 pm

C.LYDE101 wrote:I make more money, not making music, and the software I use dwarf's the cost of Cubase/Nuendo many times over... guess what ..not a dongle in sight. :roll:
Same here. My laptop at work is loaded with 30,000€ worth of software (CAD/CAM) and there is no dongle in sight. Everything is tied to this computer with a simple software license. This works beautifully and there is the option to use a dongle if I wanted to. But this is a laptop so a dongle makes no sense at all (same with Cubase).

Maybe they should look at the new MacBook, that doesn't even have a classic USB port anymore. But Steinberg is the main user and the vendor of the dongle at the same time so I doubt that they will drop it anytime soon, no matter how much it annoys the users.

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Post by Mauri » Sat Mar 14, 2015 6:33 am

"But Steinberg is the main user and the vendor of the dongle at the same time so I doubt that they will drop it anytime soon, no matter how much it annoys the users."

What would really annoy Steinberg, is cracked copies of Cubase, and other of their products, all over the net.
'Anyone seen those recently?

For me, the dongle is fine, especially when re-installing the whole setup. I do understand we don't all work the same way.
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Re: Steinberg's dongle alternative coming

Post by monsterjazzlicks » Wed Mar 18, 2015 1:22 am

Hi,

Oh well, my THIRD dongle has just broken in the exact same way that the last TWO did! Another 15 Euros down the pan!

Why can't they make a durable one with (say) a metal chassis!?

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Post by distante » Wed Mar 18, 2015 2:18 pm

I got my wrapped induck tape exactly to avoid that
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Post by monsterjazzlicks » Wed Mar 18, 2015 3:00 pm

Hi,
distante wrote:I got my wrapped induck tape exactly to avoid that
Fair enough, but the customer should not be required to do this procedure.

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Post by Benutzername » Wed Mar 18, 2015 3:04 pm

monsterjazzlicks wrote:Hi,
distante wrote:I got my wrapped induck tape exactly to avoid that
Fair enough, but the customer should not be required to do this procedure.
Maybe Steinberg should put some duct tape into the box when they ship the dongle?

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Re: Steinberg's dongle alternative coming

Post by Ed Doll » Wed Mar 18, 2015 3:10 pm

In the course of this year, we will introduce new and shorter USB-eLicensers which should be more robust.
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Post by monsterjazzlicks » Wed Mar 18, 2015 4:36 pm

Ta Ed,
Ed Doll wrote:In the course of this year, we will introduce new and shorter USB-eLicensers which should be more robust.
That's good to hear thanks. I personally don't mind the idea of a DONGLE and I am totally against CRACKED copied software etc. But unfortunately I have found the current USB to be very flimsy and unreliable.

So, any idea as to when the NEW DESIGN may be released please?

Best,

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Post by distante » Thu Mar 19, 2015 7:38 am

Ed Doll wrote:In the course of this year, we will introduce new and shorter USB-eLicensers which should be more robust.
Any tip of around what month this will happen?
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Post by Leonard_A » Fri Mar 20, 2015 12:38 pm

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Post by jaslan » Fri Mar 20, 2015 2:38 pm

Is it not reasonable to assume that if Ed could have been more specific than "in the course of this year...", he would have? :?
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Post by monsterjazzlicks » Fri Mar 20, 2015 3:41 pm

Hi,
jaslan wrote:Is it not reasonable to assume that if Ed could have been more specific than "in the course of this year...", he would have?
Well even first half or second half would be extremely helpful. I am DONGLE-LESS at the moment and the next one I purchase will be NUMBER 4 (in only 3 x years)!

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Post by Ed Doll » Fri Mar 20, 2015 3:42 pm

It's going to be the second half of this year.
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Post by monsterjazzlicks » Fri Mar 20, 2015 5:43 pm

Hi Ed,
Ed Doll wrote:It's going to be the second half of this year.
Thanks very much indeed.

Paul

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Post by Leonard_A » Sun Mar 22, 2015 3:38 am

6 years with the same dongle. Not issue here
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Post by thermionic » Mon Mar 23, 2015 4:11 pm

Sturdier dongles could result in damaged USB ports/cards/ hubs etc. Expensive to repair on a laptop. I bought a USB utility pack from Aldi a few years ago, it included a short USB extension cable, from which my dongle has dangled since. I've had at least one incident since then which may have resulted in a broken dongle/damaged USB socket, but the dongle is still intact.

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Re: Steinberg's dongle alternative coming

Post by monsterjazzlicks » Wed Mar 25, 2015 9:32 pm

Hi,

My USB EXTENSION (from eBay costing 1GBP) arrived today. I thought this may be of help/use to others on the forum.
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Just need to wait for the new dongle design to be released now. This and the extension lead should hopefully be a suffice and reliable combination. Hopefully the new release will be shortly after June.

Cheers,

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Re: Steinberg's dongle alternative coming

Post by monsterjazzlicks » Wed Mar 25, 2015 9:35 pm

Hi,
thermionic wrote:Sturdier dongles could result in damaged USB ports/cards/ hubs etc. Expensive to repair on a laptop. I bought a USB utility pack from Aldi a few years ago, it included a short USB extension cable, from which my dongle has dangled since. I've had at least one incident since then which may have resulted in a broken dongle/damaged USB socket, but the dongle is still intact.
Is ALDI the wisest choice of store to purchase computer-ware from!?

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Post by Strophoid » Wed Mar 25, 2015 9:45 pm

Not necessarily, but for something as low-value as a USB extension lead it's fine and probably dirt cheap.
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Re: Steinberg's dongle alternative coming

Post by Woodcrest Studio » Wed Mar 25, 2015 11:07 pm

monsterjazzlicks wrote:Hi,

My USB EXTENSION (from eBay costing 1GBP) arrived today. I thought this may be of help/use to others on the forum.
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Just need to wait for the new dongle design to be released now. This and the extension lead should hopefully be a suffice and reliable combination. Hopefully the new release will be shortly after June.

Cheers,

Paul
Paul, I was looking at your pictures and I couldn't help but notice all the chewing gum wrapped around your USB dongle. what's up with that?

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Re: Steinberg's dongle alternative coming

Post by thermionic » Wed Mar 25, 2015 11:17 pm

monsterjazzlicks wrote "Is ALDI the wisest choice of store to purchase computer-ware from!? I wasn't advising anyone to get their extension lead from Aldi Paul, even though there's nothing wrong with Aldi products. I don't think I'd have advised getting the cable from eBay though...

Still, I'm glad you were receptive to my post and have adopted my idea.

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